@smokes: what sucks even more is he's out indefinetely, it's gonna be tough without him and Chauncey who also has no timetable. I'd be willing to move them both in a trade, but I don't think there will be any market for them, noboby would sacrifice only God knows how much time only to get two above average combo guards. They can get you 45-50 FPs combined once they click though. So, if anyone's interested, hit me up with some offers.