Biggest things tonight for me: Chandler's uneven performance; JR/Ray both having off-nights and no Sheed down the stretch
(1) I know Chandler had a good game offensively for a switch (and a lot of his FGs were off offensive put backs -- dude still have essentially ZERO offensive game to speak of), but Goddamn man, how many times do I gotta watch him BOTH (a) not challenge a shot at the rim and then (b) not go after the friggin' defensive rebound?? Dude just stands there, deer in headlights sometimes, on plays like that...Happened 5 times tonight at least...Not what you expect outta a defensive player of the year. Maybe I just expect too much outta this man --- I expect a guy that's just gonna play like an ANIMAL defensively and on the glass and he just doesn't play like that. He's a guy that brings it in sputs and unfortunately for us, he takes way too many plays off. Just gimme one or the other -- commit to blocking a shot (this guy's really not a good shot-blocker anyway) or go get that defensive rebound. Way too many times he gives neither on a particular play underneath. Unacceptable...And while we're on Chandler and rebounding -- ENOUGH with the ****ing backtaps -- GO GET THE REBOUND YOURSELF DAMMIT!!! I can't stand it. Complained about him doing it last year all the time. It's just lazy...Gimme the best rebounders you can think of -- Charles Oakley, Barkley, Rodman, Hakeem, even a guy like Reggie Evans -- did you ever see these guys constantly flailing away trying to backtap the ball to whoever all the time? Nope...Those guys were securing all those rebounds themselves...Sorry to rip this guy, he played well tonight, pluses even outweighed the negatives, but I just can't get past his deficiencies. Dude only had 3 defensive rebs. in over 45 mins! WHAT?!? Carmelo Anthony is a better rebounder than Tyson Chandler. I don't even think that's up for debate..
(2) Just one of those off nights for Smith I guess. Goddamn man -- he even shows up and has a passable game and we win this in regulation, probably by 7, 8 pts. or better. Gotta give Bogans and even Joe Johnson credit here. Bogans was good defensively all night (esp. on Melo) and even though Johnson didn't shoot well he didn't let it affect him on the other end -- he still played good D. With all his athleticism and talent, I just don't understand why JR doesn't take the ball to the basket more. Like Ray, Swish was totally out of sync tonight..Ray just didn't play with confidence tonight which surprised me because he generally gets up for the better PGs in the NBA, esp. Paul and D-Will. We would've been able to survive with either Ray or JR having an off night, one or the other, not both. Ray was caught in between all night -- trying to facilitate and also be a scorer. He was really out of sync with Chandler 90% of the night.
(3) I dunno man -- I think Chandler needed all the help he could've gotten down low tonight. KT played OK to open it, then never got back in...Camby looks like he's done -- either it's a conditioning issue with this guy and he'll round back into form or he's done. Have trouble believing that -- he averaged like 9 rebs and a blk and a half a game last yr in limited duty. Those are still above average #s -- impact #s -- but the way he's playing, esp. tonight, I just don't see a guy that can help us. This is undoubtedly what Woody sees too, hence the string of DNPs recently....Sheed played well tonight I thought -- he hit a couple of 3s, got his shots off at will (from deep & in the post), and he made a difference defensively and on the glass...I thought it was a mistake to go away from him and bury him toward the end of regulation and for the whole OT. Just my 2 cents. When we went up by 5 or 6 for our biggest lead at one point in the 2nd half, Sheed was a big reason why..The lineup we should've milked, esp. at the end, should've been Tyson 5, Sheed 4 and Melo back at the 3. I would've played Sheed over Novak at the end myself.
Last edited by finestrg; Nov 26, 2012 at 22:15.
Why doesnt Melo shoot the last shot with 3 or 2 seconds left? Why does he even give them a chance?
Why not start Sheed over Kurt Thomas even though he had a nice block.
Where were these guys later in the game?
We missed kid tonight.
I really cant wait till Amare comes back!!!
why did'nt mello,pass the ball to a wide open novak at the end of the game.Game would have been over
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I'm tired of seeing the Knicks switch so much on D.
I mean, I remember in the Detroit game - you could literally hear Bynum saying "with ya slow ass" to Sheed after he switched on him and let Bynum get right to the cup, and fouled him.
Even tho it might not have directly led to the loss tonight...I'm still tired of seeing it so much. I saw enough switching with MDA, but I remember reading an article a while back where a player said that Woodson's defense was predictable because "they switch everything."
Do what Tom Thibs does and load the strong side. Just bring an extra defender to the ball side, force dribblers to the baseline, and invite cross court passes giving your D a chance to adjust, or even forcing a turnover.
A combo of that, plus the occasional straight up man to man, and even...dare I say it...switch the PnR when it's beneficial, and we're good.
But I seriously can't take watching Tyson or Sheed on a quick PG anymore. It's not 1975, these PGs are ****ing quick and fast, there is no benefit to putting your big on a CP3, Deron, Rose, Westbrook, Rondo, Thomas, Lawson, Goran the god damn "Dragon" Dragic, etc.
Guess if I was simple in the mind...everything would be fine.
this is why people are crazy saying we don't need Amare. The last few games showed that. There's no reliable second option behind Melo. Just a bunch of streak shooters.
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I will admit .. it was nice to watch the Lopez vs Tyson 2nd half offense show ....
Our to many ISO-plays in our past 6 games got us playing lame .. no one screening for our shooter Novak .. We have to go back to Jason Kidd's system of looking for the open moving-man .. JR and JJ shootin was off tonite, that didnt stop JJ from feeding Lopez, Stackhouse, Wallace, and Deron for baskets .. JR took the night off after his best performance vs Pistons ....
The piece in the first half showing Felton complaining to Melo about no one is moving fast for his passes so he is force to shoot, was Felton way of telling Melo he was taking the greenlight vs Deron Williams in the 2nd half. LOL
The LA Clippers was nuts not to resign Reggie Evans after his strong postseason performance .. the Nets sign Reggie Evans for $5.5M for three years .. did someone say cheap winning backup.
a shi*tty night for Feltip, def his worst game, but no need for KO members to lambast his entire season. so he went 3-19, 16 missed shots. Melo went 11-25, 14 missed shots. what i don't understand is Steve Novak getting so many damn minutes (18) with 2 points, and doing absolutely nothing else to warrant his being in the game. where is Camby...5 minutes?
when Melo and Chandler score 63 out of 89 points, there is a problem. as mentioned previously, ball movement has disappeared, esp the way the rock moved at beginning of year. the only 2 clutch players all night for NYK.
look at the effort put in by Deron- 14 assists, by Reg Evans- 14 bounds, and the overall group effort by the Nyets... Stackhouse, Bogans, Walrus, Lopez, all clutch when it counted.
idk, just a weird off-game, and poor substitutions by Wood Son. but hey, Knicks came close to winning in the first place, and if they did, there wouldn't be so many negative nancys boo-hoo-hoo-ing on here.
we'll come back strong.
Felton played like Jeremy Lin tonight. ****ing terrible. i threw up in my mouth and swallowed it back down when I saw that floater airball. we need a legit pg like Kidd. anybody playing with Kidd instantly becomes 10x better. look what he did to Kenyon Martin.
I think we should just make kidd the starting PG. When we play big our defense is 100 times better. If we had kidd playing tonight we definitely would have won