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    Miami Heat Game Thread: New York Knicks @ Miami Heat 7:30 pm 12/06/2016 [Game#21]





    (11-9) -- (7-13)

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    AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL MSG 7:30 PM EST


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    Injury Report

    New York Knicks Miami Heat
    Courtney Lee - Sore Left Ankle (PROB) Chris Bosh (OUT)
    Maurice Ndour - Sore left ankle (QUEST) James Johnson - Strained Right Rotator Cuff (OUT)
    - Dion Waiters - Pectineus Tear (OUT)
    - Justise Winslow - Sore Left Wrist (OUT)
    - Luke Babbitt - Strained Right Hip Flexor (QUEST)
    - Josh Richardson - Sprained Right Ankle (QUEST)


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    MIAMI -- This season may be the first time in 17 years that the New York Knicks can actually say they are better than the Miami Heat.

    New York, led by established standouts Carmelo Anthony and Derrick Rose and superstar-in-the making 7-3 center/forward/shooting guard Kristaps Porzingis, may be for real this time around.

    The old rivals -- more on that later -- will meet on Tuesday night at AmericanAirlines Arena, and the Knicks (11-9) are in a virtual three-way tie for fifth place in the Eastern Conference. They have won three in a row and eight of their past 11 and are just one game out of third place.

    Two games over .500 is nothing to get excited about for many NBA franchises, but it is nose-bleed country for the Knicks and their fans, who have had little to cheer about for nearly two decades.

    Put it this way, at no point in the past three-plus seasons have the Knicks been three games over .500, which is what they would achieve if they beat the Heat on Tuesday.

    New York's most recent win, 106-98 on Sunday night against the visiting Sacramento Kings, was not a thing of beauty. The Knicks built a 21-point lead before allowing a Kings 18-0 run.

    "I don't think anybody on our team cares about stats -- the main objective is just to get wins," Knicks guard Brandon Jennings told the media when asked about the concept of winning ugly. "But we've got to get better."

    While the Knicks are striving to provide a little more quality in their wins, the Heat arrive home with a 7-13 record that does not befit this proud franchise.

    They are in 12th place in the Eastern Conference. And while it's early, they have dug themselves a hole if they plan to make the top eight and the playoffs.

    On the bright side for Miami, the Heat is coming off a successful 2-1 road trip.

    "You'd love to go 3-0," said Heat center Hassan Whiteside, who had 28 points, 16 rebounds and five blocks in the trip's finale, a 99-92 loss to the Portland Trail Blazers on Saturday night. "But anytime you go positive on a road trip, that's motivation."

    Whiteside could have another big game against the Knicks, and here are two reasons why:

    First, Whiteside has big games against almost everybody lately, which is why he ranks first in the NBA in rebounds (14.9) and third in blocks (2.6). He is also averaging a team-best 17.8 points on 56.2 percent shooting from the floor.

    Second, New York's defense is not very good, especially against post players. Sacramento's DeMarcus Cousins had 36 points and 12 rebounds on Sunday, and Minnesota Timberwolves center Karl-Anthony Towns had 47 points and 18 rebounds on Wednesday.

    Tuesday's game will be difficult to handicap since the Heat is just 2-7 at home and the Knicks are 2-6 on the road.

    Injuries are another factor, mostly for the Heat.

    For Miami, small forwards Luke Babbit (hip flexor) and Justise Winslow (wrist) and shooting guards Dion Waiters (groin) and Josh Richardson (ankle) are expected to sit out. All four have started games this season.

    The Knicks are missing just one player, starting shooting guard Courtney Lee, who has missed two straight games due to a sprained left ankle.

    Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek told the media Lee was feeling better but still not 100 percent, which was especially noticeable on lateral movements.

    Now about that Knicks-Heat rivalry ...

    The last time the Knicks beat the Heat in a playoffs series was in 2000.

    That was Patrick Ewing's last season in New York, and the rivalry pretty much ended with his departure. The Knicks have been mostly miserable in the post-Ewing era, winning just one playoff series in all this time, beating the Boston Celtics in the first round in 2013.

    Of course, the Heat won their second straight NBA title that year, so forgive them if they barely noticed New York winning a first-round series.

    But for those who are too young to fully understand the Heat-Knicks rivalry ... or for those too old to remember how captivating and thrilling it was, here is a CliffsNotes version of what went down in four glorious series in four consecutive years:

    The bitterness between the organizations began when coach Pat Riley, upset that the Knicks would not let him have enough of a say in personnel decisions, bolted to Miami.

    And in 1997, with Riley coaching the Heat and Jeff Van Gundy leading New York, there was high drama. New York led the conference semifinals 3-1, but the Heat came back to win 4-3.

    There should be an asterisk next to that series win, however. Due to a brawl in Game 5, the Knicks suffered several key suspensions, causing two missed games by Charlie Ward and one each by Ewing, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson and John Starks. That crippled the Knicks' chances.

    In 1998, the Knicks got even, winning 3-2 in a first-round series again spiced by a fight, this time between Johnson and Alonzo Mourning.

    In 1999, the Knicks again beat the Heat 3-2 in the first round, this time on Houston's winning shot that bounced off the rim and off the backboard before finally falling through the net with just 0.8 seconds left. The eighth-seeded Knicks crushed the dreams of top-seeded Miami that year.

    And in 2000, the Knicks beat the Heat 4-3 in a conference semifinal. Ewing dunked on Miami in the final seconds of what was a one-point New York win -- a fitting way to end that era of this incredible rivalry.

    Will Heat-Knicks ever be that good again?

    Probably not, but the Whiteside-Porzingis matchup should be a very good one for years to come. Maybe a heated playoff series, a fight or two. ... You never know.

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    nice thread!
    contain whiteside (I don’t honestly see how we can realistically neutralize him), and we have a solid chance at getting this almost pretty easy. On the other hand, dragic has the ability to get us into foul trouble early and keep us in foul trouble. The heat have the ability to win this game on the FT line, but I’m confident we’ll get this. If we jump out to a hot start and build up a nice lead in the first half, we absolutely have to make this the game where we learn how to step on the opponents’ throat and put them away for good. Bringing a nice win over a long time rival back to the garden for a match up with the cavs would be a great confidence booster.

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    if we come out like this against the cavs tomorrow night we're going to get destroyed. but this game... it's still early

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    looks like we're picking it up. i hope our 2nd unit totally destroys theirs'. that'd be fun.

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    kuz to the Q!

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    despite a stretch of embarrassing sloppiness and bad shooting, we're only down by 1 at the half. clean up some stuff and we can take this easy.
    noah's looking pretty darn good tonight. that's a good thing.

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    Originally Posted by and1
    despite a stretch of embarrassing sloppiness and bad shooting, we're only down by 1 at the half. clean up some stuff and we can take this easy.
    noah's looking pretty darn good tonight. that's a good thing.

    Knicks hit their second three of the game with 4 left in the third quarter. Oddly,
    even tho they're missing all their 3s, they are scoring in the paint. Great game by Noah.

    noah and KP have 4 fouls tho.

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    Just tuned in seeing Quinn get that OR after BJ miss and hearing Q has been doing that all game. ☺

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    I love what I'm seeing from Jeff's rotation tonight.

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    LT looked good tonight. noah looked good tonight. the Q continues his stupendous play. melo got hot in the 2nd half after a cold-ish start.
    4 in a row! 3 games over .500! 4-4 to start the 10 game stretch i was hoping they'd go at least 7-3. lookin' pretty darn good!
    it's too bad dRose had to leave the game with back spasms. he played a big part in keeping us in the game early on in the 1st half.
    hopefully he's alright by tomorrow night. bring it back to the garden y'all!

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    If the knicks would make the extra pass more consistently we would be alright.

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    I hope DRose can play tomorrow.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Just tuned in seeing Quinn get that OR after BJ miss and hearing Q has been doing that all game. ☺
    Q played a tough gritty game. hit some long range jumpers too. a couple of nice allie-oop passes to melo as well.

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    Originally Posted by and1
    Q played a tough gritty game. hit some long range jumpers too. a couple of nice allie-oop passes to melo as well.
    Melo playing above the rim. Can't wait to see that.

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    31 2nd chance pts, most against the Heat all season and 6-14 from 3 in the 2nd half told the story for the W this game.

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