MMA thread

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this for the mma fans thread.

been a long time in combat sport/comp fan: mma, tma, boxing, mt, iska, k1, bjj, sanda.



anywayss...this up coming fight



UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Diaz

dec 8th

fight card
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notes:

-bendo and nate could be a canidate for "the fight of the year".

-bad blood with bj and rory. a motivated bj is always good to watch.

-shogun vs gustafsson.. huge step up game for gustaf. very talented striker and now training with phil davis to work on his ground game.

-yves and stephens could be fireworks depends on which yves steps up.

-siver vs pham and hulk easton vs levessur were added , hopefully. hulk is a beast and on a tear lately. this will probably get him a shot at the 135 champ cruz. siver is going to man handle pham.

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recent fights
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bellator 82 highlights

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hype machine : ufc on fox 5

bendo vs nate

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KO of the night
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almost forgot...

k1 GP final was announced coming to NYC 2013.

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k1 is on its death bed.


looking back...favs hoost,hug,aerts overeem,sponge,remy. etc

masato

buakaw

petro

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I was a huge fan of "The Dutch Lumberjack" in the early days of K-1.

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bellator 84 dec 14th.


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I was a huge fan of "The Dutch Lumberjack" in the early days of K-1.

aerts got a 6 fight contract with glory. 42yrs old and still fighting.

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lets go hector.

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DEC 15 saturday! sturday!

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UFC is such a joke, WWE star Brock Lesnar made a mockery of them after only a couple of fights he wins their World Heavyweight Championship...

Please don't represent boxing, muy tai, iska, k1, bjj, & sanda. Each art takes years of practice and if you're quality at every single one you would be a professional making a living off the sport, but you're not. You're ****ty at all done, having experience in those fields doesn't mean anything if you're active in each on a daily basis...it's impossible to be daily in all those arts on a daily basis, especially muy thai along because I was a trainer in a muy thai gym. You're boosting yourself up too much.

F*ck MMA.
The 3-round format in MMA is not conducive. Even a 5-round championship fight cannot hope to match the back-and-forth action of a good boxing match. There are countless examples of this; the Ali-Frazier trilogy being the quintessential one. Ali establishing the jab early, Frazier boring in, wearing his body down and dominating the middle rounds, but Ali finding a hidden reserve in the last section of the fights. The best boxing matches build a particular narrative over the rounds. Hearns-Leonard I: "the puncher became the boxer, and the boxer became the puncher". That doesn't occur over a 5-round fight.

One reason this is rare in MMA because the sport is just not built for it. The fight structure is different; longer rounds are necessary to accommodate the grappling/submission attempts.The smaller gloves allow a fighter to take less punishment; nobody in MMA can take the accumulation of punches that a boxer can and be competitive. And due to the 10-count, a boxer can recover from a knockdown much easier than an MMA fighter. This quite simply allows for more comebacks, more drama.

Under an MMA format, Ward-Gatti I would have been a forgettable 30-27 unanimous decision.


II. Style Contrast

One of the great pleasures of any combat sport is the contrast of styles between the fighters. And in MMA, the starkness of the contrast is actually what hurts it. Consider a fight between a striker and a grappler: if the striker is on his feet, he has a decisive advantage. Likewise for a grappler during ground fighting. The problem is that there isn't much room for subtlety between the two. There's no gray area. If a striker is on his back, there is absolutely no advantage to being a superior striker. It's essentially a different sport at that point.

Whereas a boxing match between has a natural, fluid, constant interchange of stylistic advantages. The boxer attempts to stay outside and use his reach, and the slugger tries to get inside and bang. The point is that there's more of an inherent flow between the differing styles in boxing as opposed to MMA. And in the best stylistic matchups in boxing, such as Pacquiao-Marquez, there is a beautiful, interrupted constrast of styles.

III. Technicality of Standup

I won't make the oft-heard argument that all MMA standup is inherently sloppy. I understand that the nature of sport has different requirements than boxing. The lead leg boxing stance is susceptible to takedowns in MMA, et cet. However, the smaller MMA gloves give a greater reward towards risky standup. A fighter like Dan Henderson can throw wild haymakers and be successful, simply because the risk-reward ratio is skewed towards those types of punches. There is significantly less technicality in terms of establishing the jab, working the body, disrupting the opponent's timing. Again, this is just the nature of the sport.

Much of this is the result of boxing being, in a technical sense, a more concentrated sport. Meaning that MMA has such a contrast of platforms - standup, clinch fighting, ground fighting - that the talent in one particular area is diluted (the best strikers in MMA wouldn't be the best kickboxers, et cet).

So where an MMA fan might accuse boxing of being limited, in reality it is a sport so concentrated, so condensed into a single art form, that it truly does become a science. And the beauty of the sport is that the science is interwoven with brutality; the technicality is undercut with ferocity; there is a constant tension between the two.

IV. History

There is no argument to made here. Boxing has the superior history. Boxing has the literary tradition, the historical backdrop, the social import.

Obviously you can't fault a young sport like MMA for this, but that is simply another appeal of boxing. And personally I find it rather substantial.

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Peter Aerts Greatest Knockouts.

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lol what a joke.




truth...

powerful striker vs gorilla powered submission artist. why did the better striker win?

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