I'm just saying this to let you guys know the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I love Pau but he looks done it's been 3 years under 3 different coaches where he's been bad. At least with Amare you guys don't know for sure if he's done or not yet. I do think if both players were to play well they'd be good fits for each team more so than their current one.
Pau is the better player and fits our style perfectly. He also has the shorter contract. Throw in Novak as well if that's what it takes
Both players seem to need a new home it looks like. Throw in Novak I suppose and get the deal done.
you guys smoking? you dont throw in novak, that actually the best thing LA and MDA can get out of this trade, cus novak in MDA's offense is fire, hed be left wide open with dwight on the low blocks and kobe on the perimeter... useen artest so far.... what do u think novak would be, hiting wide open 3's
first off be careful the lakers are the king of rape deals that end up in their favor which is the opposite of the knicks
Pau for Amare is cool
Pau for Novak and Amare is borderline rape cause we still have a weakness in scoring though we will be more efficient (except when Pau goes soft on the knicks)
Pau and MWP for Amare and Novak would be nice Cause it would allow the knicks to have a real SF to play Defense and bring a different look when resting Melo
RIght now They can't even deal for Novak though.... it would likely involve picks and/or shump on our side. So I am not a ok with this trade.
unless we could avoid trading shump at all and maybe Novak maybe for MWP. it would add significantly to our overall defense while allowing Pau to score in a system where he could see more touches. A final part of this trade would likely be that both Gasol and Metta come off in 2 years allowing the knicks to offer the max to Kevin Love.
Felton / Kidd / Pablo
Shump/ JR / Brewer
Melo / MWP /White
Pau / Sheed / Copeland
Chandler / Kurt / Camby (is camby really that out of shape?)
Even if Pau is declining, he's been the better rebounder and defender over Amare the last 3 years.
Knicks with Pau
at 100%, that's easily the best and most well rounded team in the NBA.
BTW, screw Novak. For what he does, he's actually overpaid. Knicks shred some salary and get a better player. Novak can have fun trying to find minutes to play in LA over WORLD PEACE who will be D'Antoni's boy, bet on it.
Lakers get Amare and would be so easy to strip and they won't have any ball security with two big clumsy guys in the post with Amare and Dwight.
I'm still iffy about this.... Amare for Pau sounds to reasonable the lakers really take pride in raping teams and the Knicks are known for grabbing their ankles quicker than anybody. Between the rumors about Raja Bell it sounds like they wan't a defensive playing 2 guard like shump.... our only legally tradable player who could/would be reasonable to add to sweeten a deal.....
If a trade happens later then maybe we don't get raped.... but right now I am telling you shump is likely part of what the lakers want for taking on the worse Amare Contract.
if the lakers were to acquire stoudemire could they amnesty him after the season if they don't want him? i don't think the lakers have used their amnesty clause.
First of all, a straight up trade of Amar'e to Pau would work. Adding a guy like Novak or Shump would be stupid. I trust Grunwald to not let us get raped from a trade like this.
Its obvious that MDA doesn't like Pau. In a column from NBA.com I read that he wanted Gasol to stop posting up and attempt more midrange shots. That's not Gasol's game, which translated to him getting little to no minutes during fourth quarters. A trade like this would make sense for the Knicks. Aside from the lackluster defense, it is evident that Melo needs a wingman who can carry the offense consistently, and Gasol would be a terrific fit for a role in this Knicks team. I hope this trade goes through. That loss to the Nets hurts like we got eliminated from the Playoffs. And I haven't even watched it yet.
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