while it is early, i have to agree, not a fan of the early 2000s team. but the 94ish squad was a good team, if the bulls didnt suck the life outta em they woulda beat houston. im 34 so i do remember them
i do think however this team is a much better offensive team, and so far even a better defensive team. ALL HAIL MIKE WOODSON
when you got an offensive team like this, you just let bron go, he got his points the other night....31 i think? end result? lost by 20. so yeh he can get his, just stop everyone else. u try and stop him in the lane, you know crawford and any other ref would give him the def foul, even if our defeender was sittin there for 5 minutes sippin champagne
The current "Knicktape" generation of the Knicks haven't proven anything yet. They are off to a great start! Even though I'm a youngin, I have to give deference to the 70's teams.They made it to the big stage and won, no other generation of the Knicks can say that. I don't think this knicks team is better than the Ewing era Knicks yet either, keyword being YET!
I love the way that was put together! Inspirational.James used words like "smashed" and "embarrassed." Wade simply uttered, "We got beat. No excuses." But as the dynamic duo drifted into the night, not needing the spotlights of South Beach to shine a light on the beatdown they'd just endured, it was clear the Heat have resigned themselves to a reality the rest of us may have to embrace quickly, assuming we haven't already:
The*New York Knicks are coming.
They are coming for supremacy in New York. They are coming for the Atlantic Division crown. They are coming for a top-four seed in the East and home-court advantage in a first-round playoff series, at least. And with the Heat standing in everyone's way, evidently the Knicks are coming for the champions, too.
93-94 team were and still are the apple of my eye. If this team exceeds their success, then they will (literally) be the champs.
It's kinda early in the season to determine anything but I will agree that the dynamics of this team, when in their groove, is remarkable to watch. They're all capable of sharp shooting and when hot the Knicks are unstoppable! Thinking about when Shump comes back...their defense will be very intense. The PG's now are adding versatility that Melo needs, along with everyone else to create good offense. I really enjoyed seeing Felton step up when Melo went down...and let's not forget about Novak. It's fun to watch. Let's see how far they can go!
Also, I love this "Knickstape" thing they got goin!
This is easily the best Knicks team of my lifetime, hands down mans down, not even the Ewing teams were this awesome, this is a packed team, we're on a different level now
It looks like we are on pace to have one hell of a year that rivals our 90s teams but the proof will in the playoffs. We could lose just 3 games for the rest of the year and it would mean nothing if we have another first round exit. I love what I'm seeing and I don't deny its the best ball I've seen in over a decade, but its still too early. Other teams feared our 90s Ewing team and I don't get the sense other teams are taking us seriously yet- case and point the Heat.
It's nearly impossible to compare players/teams thru the decades because the rules have changed. The emphises on offense(zone defense, no hand checking, no hard fouls) has literally changed the game. Also bigs with low post skills(Ewing,Hakeem, mourning) don't exist anymore either. Kareem was on nba tv last week breaking down the mechanics of his sky hook and the commentator asked when he learned all this to which Kareem responded "high school." Classic. Bigs these days are to busy shooting threes and dunking out to learn even one go to post move. Then they go straight to the nba and you the Dwight Howards and Andrew Bynums of the world. None of the 90's teams had a scorer like melo. Alan was a shooter and spree was a slasher. Melo is a lethal combo of both. Time will tell the rest of the story but this the best team in over a decade to be sure and manhandling the hated Heat puts them up there with the great teams of the 90's.
I saw two finals knicks teams that had heart.
When I say best I mean in comparison of player by player, roster vs roster, coach/scheme vs coach/scheme. I'm not rating based on accomplishments because of the fluid dynamics and relativity. In other words a previous team could have went far in the playoffs (partly due to the competition), but compared to this team could be seen as inferior.
Well it's relative. Those teams made the playoffs year in and out, so that accomplishment isn't the same for them as it can be for us. We have made the playoffs the last two years and are trying to build on a sweep and one game/first round exit. Being taken serious takes time also yet plenty of teams aren't taken serious until it's too late. Dallas case in point.
And I think we have the leagues attention, be it for our potential or short term accomplishments. On paper we have something very close to the formula.
For some reason I don't see why people are saying the low post game is a lost art in the NBA. I understand there's not many true centers, but I see post moves all the time. Z-Bo and M. Gasol come to mind... I've even seen D12 use impressive post moves (with the Magic).
But really like I said, I'm comparing the players not the teams accomplishments. I can make an argument this squad is the best we under 40 have ever seen. Stats can be used but it's evident when you think about it. Having a player like Melo alone eliminates most other teams. And I'm not hating on Pat but it was always "he needed... something else. A PG, Shooters, better luck, etc... imagine Pat had this team. C'mon!
Yes I agree, they had heart; and for the most part while we've shown some, we have much to prove. In a way they had heart is a mantra we use to describe how they overachieved.
They overachieved because they didn't have as much talent as their competition. I don't feel this team lacks talent. If we overachieve it would be in the form of running through the playoffs to a title, because no one believes we can achieve that.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote