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    Originally Posted by Ghostowl
    I see lotta people complaining Chandler didn't defend well, but he actually did, and he got a ton of rebounds for us. What killed us was that they used athleticism to outpace us. I'm still worried about Knicks offense though, because without Melo here, we simply rely on 3's most of the time and that is very streaky.
    Not much to be worried about, if we don't have Melo we aren't gonna win in the playoffs anyway so doesn't matter much.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    Not much to be worried about, if we don't have Melo we aren't gonna win in the playoffs anyway so doesn't matter much.
    Agreed and rep for you!!!!

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    Originally Posted by htr10
    That airball exchange kind of sums up the game so far for me. Both teams chugging along as sloppy as possible, Rockets just seem to be a little better at it than us. I wonder if we'll manage to crack 12 points for the quarter.
    I was there last night and when JLin threw up the airball, the crowd started chanting "Air Ball"... with JR open and taking a 3 pt shot on the other end, I could really feel the crowd ready to BLOW UP, but amazingly, the return airball totally deflated the crowd.

    The energy last night was pretty awesome, regardless of the outcome.

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    Originally Posted by Munchen13
    Actually, that's not strange at all.
    It's called match-ups.

    The rockets penentrate well, and they have some good shooters. Their guards are quick and crafty.

    The heat backcourt is bad (Chalmers is an average PG, Wade is in the decline)

    Whilst houston has Harden who is a very dangerous SG, and Lin who we know is a good penetrator.

    So the way i see it, houston played on our weakness (defensively, our backcourt has an old slow defender in Kidd, yes he is a good defender, but he faces problems defending fast guards. And we have felton, who gets beaten by super fast guards in the defensive end)

    What makes up for that previously mentioned weakness is our star, carmelo anthony.

    Yes, we need shump back in order to beat a team like houston. With him, our backcourt is better defensively!
    best post I`ve seen in a long while. Sums it up perfectly.

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    Melo would not have made much of a difference in this game ..

    Melo cant beat a run run uptempo team as a SF or PF (proof is in the pudding in Melo's Denver daze vs Suns/Spurs/Jazz/Lakers/and Durant) ..
    The young Rockets started running the ball off of every defensive-rebound and inbound-pass (like Euro-ball) to get on offense before Tyson Chandler could push his way through Asik to get back on defense .. do u really think Melo wouldve made a difference getting back on defense .. Melo didnt make a difference in our first lost to the Rockets other than give the Rockets SF-Chandler Parson an ALL-Star scoring game.

    Copeland shouldve been given the greenlight to attack the rim in the first-quarter not the 4th quarter, Felton shouldve told JR, Brewer, Kurt, Copeland, and White to play the revolving door cutting to the basket before Tyson cut and right behind Tyson cutting to the basket while looking for the alley-oop pass, this wouldve kept the Rockets players moving on offense plus put the Rockets in early foul trouble defending the paint in the first half of the game.
    All the Rockets losses have their bigmen in foul-trouble .. that is their biggest weakness in the scouting-report, plus their bench bigman Patterson was out with injury.

    This Knicks LOST goes to Woody & Felton incompetence .... not Melo being injured for the game...

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Melo would not have made much of a difference in this game ..

    Melo cant beat a run run uptempo team as a SF or PF (proof is in the pudding in Melo's Denver daze vs Suns/Spurs/Jazz/Lakers/and Durant) ..
    The young Rockets started running the ball off of every defensive-rebound and inbound-pass (like Euro-ball) to get on offense before Tyson Chandler could push his way through Asik to get back on defense .. do u really think Melo wouldve made a difference getting back on defense .. Melo didnt make a difference in our first lost to the Rockets other than give the Rockets SF-Chandler Parson an ALL-Star scoring game.

    Copeland shouldve been given the greenlight to attack the rim in the first-quarter not the 4th quarter, Felton shouldve told JR, Brewer, Kurt, Copeland, and White to play the revolving door cutting to the basket before Tyson cut and right behind Tyson cutting to the basket while looking for the alley-oop pass, this wouldve kept the Rockets players moving on offense plus put the Rockets in early foul trouble defending the paint in the first half of the game.
    All the Rockets losses have their bigmen in foul-trouble .. that is their biggest weakness in the scouting-report, plus their bench bigman Patterson was out with injury.

    This Knicks LOST goes to Woody & Felton incompetence .... not Melo being injured for the game...

    I'm going to disagree with ya my fellow Knicks fan. I am currently rewatching the game and in the third quarter Copeland was HOT. And neither Kidd nor Felton would get him the ball...... What the friggin crap!!!!!! Only answer I have for that is that Copeland is a rookie. You can even hear Walt saying, "Why aren't they give the man with the hot hand the ball".

    Now if that was Melo and he was hot, (and he usually is at that point) you're going to tell me he isn't going to get the ball???? Last night's game was lost right there.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    Not much to be worried about, if we don't have Melo we aren't gonna win in the playoffs anyway so doesn't matter much.
    There is alot to be worried about .. if Woody dont add something other than this "48 minute Halfcourt-setting style" of shooting 85% of our shots from the peremeter, and depending only on Tyson to protect the paint when Camby/Amare/and Shump return our hopes in the postseason will be a first round Knockout .. Camby/Amare/Shump are running players that score 50% from inside the paint scoring on fastbreak baskets.

    We got some of the best defensive-rebound passers on our team to start a fastbreak in Tyson/Camby/Kurt/Rasheed/and Amare .. is Felton, JR, and Melo going to run or walk the ball up court so our oponents could setup on defense.

    There is alot to worry about when Camby, Amare, and Shump get on the seen...

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    Originally Posted by xk3smith
    I'm going to disagree with ya my fellow Knicks fan. I am currently rewatching the game and in the third quarter Copeland was HOT. And neither Kidd nor Felton would get him the ball...... What the friggin crap!!!!!! Only answer I have for that is that Copeland is a rookie. You can even hear Walt saying, "Why aren't they give the man with the hot hand the ball".

    Now if that was Melo and he was hot, (and he usually is at that point) you're going to tell me he isn't going to get the ball???? Last night's game was lost right there.
    Asik & Smith hard fouls wouldve made Melo take all his shots from outside like Melo ussually does.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Asik & Smith hard fouls wouldve made Melo take all his shots from outside like Melo ussually does.
    Check the stats. He has been hitting those. Why do you think he's an MVP candidate??

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    Originally Posted by TakMan
    This wasn't a swipe aimed at yourself; and I will gladly get some new material when I see Chandler performing consistently, at the level he is capable of. Conservation of energy is ridiculous, particularly this early on. I'm sorry but I can't watch the NBA's defensive player of the year consistently underachieve without calling him out for it. Our defence in the paint has been the difference in all our losses. It's unacceptable.
    I agree with you 100 percent. This is not the first time Chandler takes the day off on the court

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    Originally Posted by xk3smith
    Check the stats. He has been hitting those. Why do you think he's an MVP candidate??

    Some Knicks-Fans believe Melo is a candidate for MVP .. the top-3 candidate for MVP will be at the end of midseason.

    The Knicks halfcourt-setting style has been set by Jason Kidd .. Lastnite Kidd let Felton run the point vs Jeremy Lin .. Copeland & Brewer locked down Parson from having another high scoring game, Melo's defensive effort cant do that .. learn to accept Melo as just a high-scorer and the guy u give the final shot to, but remember Melo is a high scorer in a half-court offensive setting .. which Amare would be a high scorer with a running uptempo team with Harden & Lin in the baskcourt scoring before oponents could setup on defense.
    Last edited by Kiyaman; Dec 18, 2012 at 12:40.

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    reason that we lost is 1

    Felton gave proof that still jeremy is better

    he is faster than felton fetlon is not only slow but is simply wasting time for nonsense dribbling when Lin simply starting fastbreak and even with and 1.

    Now i hope Woodston will think about Copeland as S5

    Knicks were down just 5 in 3rd and then 5-23.


    but i dont get it rockets loose to raptors and that was just 3 win as away for rockets.

    they will be in 7-8 seed and then will be war against OKC and something can smell as upset of Harden who knows



    last thing there will be no famous record 22-5

    now Nyets Bulls and Lakers.
    With this type of playing without MELo we are 0-3

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    ^ Are you on crack?

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    Hey bigapple, i dont know what you are smoking, but that stuff is good

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    ^polish crack.... i know there's a joke there somewhere

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