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    [QUOTE=Kiyaman;263538]
    let Novak lead us in scoring a couple games...QUOTE]


    How do you expect him to lead us in scoring? all he's ever done is shoot the long ball... and he has been very inconsistant with that lately. This would be the neatest trick I've ever witnessed if he happens to lead the Knicks to a win by being the lead scorer. A miracle if it happens in one game, but to think he can do it in a couple of games is being severely overly optimistic, imho.

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    You guys are killin me with the CeltD*ck jokes, this thread already has my dyin


    I wanna see Melo at PF more now that Shump can play more minutes. Novak and Copeland are killin us defensively, Stat too

    Im confident that we're gonna get this win tonight. Avery Bradley aint 100% and Rondo didnt play last time. I think in some ways he hurts them, they try too hard to force the offense through him.

    When they play more of a team game, they seem to score more points. Id be curious to see how many points a game they average without Rondo vs with Rondo


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    I hate Celtics.
    Knicks win it or go and wash Pierce's pants.

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    [QUOTE=Real NY Baller;263559]
    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    let Novak lead us in scoring a couple games...QUOTE]


    How do you expect him to lead us in scoring? all he's ever done is shoot the long ball... and he has been very inconsistant with that lately. This would be the neatest trick I've ever witnessed if he happens to lead the Knicks to a win by being the lead scorer. A miracle if it happens in one game, but to think he can do it in a couple of games is being severely overly optimistic, imho.
    ha ha ha .... lastseason Novak lead us in scoring in several games .. it got us to resign Novak to a $16M 4 year contract.
    We dont screen/pick/or run any design 3-point play for a peremeter shooter Novak who has the ability to hit from either corner of the 3-ball line.

    We average 30 3-ball attempts per game .. Novak has the highest percentage on the team in 3-ball shots with 45% however, Novak average 4 attempts out of the 30 attempts per game, what does that say about the team?
    We let a 33% JR.smith take 5 attempts per game from the 3-ball line LOL
    Melo takes 7 attempts at 42% .. Kidd takes 5 attempts at 42%, Copeland takes 2 attempts at 38%.

    In our 39 games has coach Woodson drawed up a 3-point "design-play" to use at crunchtime? the kind of 3-ball play after a time-out u seen several times from players Ray Allen, Pierce, Wade, Ginobli, Rip, R.Miller, Houston, Steve Kerr, and Horry use throughout their career in the NBA.

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    Not exactly 3 but I'll take that

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4Life_1985




    Not exactly 3 but I'll take that

    not me .. when JR.smith no-effort on defense, inconsistent shooting, and bad decision-making are the #1 reason we have problems taking a lead, holding a lead, or expanding a lead.

    u need to stop with the "youtube" and start looking at stat-sheets on the quarters we get outscored in the most. vs Brooklyn we forced the Nets to committ 19 turnovers but we only scored 5 points off of 19 turnovers

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    [QUOTE=Kiyaman;263571]
    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller

    ha ha ha .... lastseason Novak lead us in scoring in several games .. it got us to resign Novak to a $16M 4 year contract.
    We dont screen/pick/or run any design 3-point play for a peremeter shooter Novak who has the ability to hit from either corner of the 3-ball line.

    We average 30 3-ball attempts per game .. Novak has the highest percentage on the team in 3-ball shots with 45% however, Novak average 4 attempts out of the 30 attempts per game, what does that say about the team?
    We let a 33% JR.smith take 5 attempts per game from the 3-ball line LOL
    Melo takes 7 attempts at 42% .. Kidd takes 5 attempts at 42%, Copeland takes 2 attempts at 38%.

    In our 39 games has coach Woodson drawed up a 3-point "design-play" to use at crunchtime? the kind of 3-ball play after a time-out u seen several times from players Ray Allen, Pierce, Wade, Ginobli, Rip, R.Miller, Houston, Steve Kerr, and Horry use throughout their career in the NBA.
    Novak is not on Ray Allen, Pierce, Wade, Ginobli, Rip, R.Miller, Houston, Steve Kerr, or Horry's level. I know you didn't mean it that way but was just making an example. But to be fair about it... I think he comes closest to Horry, but horry was consistant with that shot and he did a little bit extra to help the team.

    The thing with Novacaine is that's all he has, and if it isn't working he looks lost out there. I think he has good foot work but his awareness sucks, he should learn how to pick up the charge....as most players will try to dunk on him if he's anywhere in the paint. He needs to use that thought process to his advantage, seek out x-teammate Jared Jefferies and learn the tricks of the trade of positioning around the paint. If he learns that it will amp his confidence and should open up his game more.

    There have been many uncontested shots for Nova and he still missed them. I think if he contributes more in other areas of the game his shot will come back and we will run more plays for him. As of now, his shot is suspect so I think coach is just using him to spread the floor more, almost like a decoy. I don’t think we can afford to give him more min’s than he is already getting because he’s lacking production, this is why I believe Copeland is getting the shine because he can do what Novak is suppose to do….and a little more.

    I also don’t want Melo and JR taking so many shots because it takes our other threats out of the game, especially when they are long range jumpers. Your team can’t get much rebounds or a sense of rhythm that way. Most of our losses came with both of them shooting over 20 a piece, the problem should be obvious. I believe Melo will come around soon enough; I think he’s starting to realize he’ll never win a chip if he is the only one in the zone. He needs to learn how to get his teammates involved more…instead of just being the example of scoring excellence.

    to add: IMO, Melo and JR swish are like Batman and Robin, they know each other tendencies very well, and they’re a team within a team that sometimes forgets the Justice league has their back. The last Dynamic Duo’s to do it was Wade and Bron, and Pippen and Jordan, but they also got their teammates into the fight. This is our problem, trusting in our teammates and uplifting them when they’re struggling will remedy most of our flaws. If I was in the NBA, and if I wasn’t an scoring option on the team… yet the number one scoring threat on my team is showing me love and trust…I will put in that extra effort in my all around game even if my shot was failing me. People have the tendency to go all out for a true leader. Melo is not yet thinking on that level, but we have plenty of time for him to figure it out. hopefully...

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4Life_1985
    I updated some **** on the first page
    Quality thread repped.
    Last edited by tiger0330; Jan 24, 2013 at 15:40.

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    [QUOTE=Real NY Baller;263575]
    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Novak is not on Ray Allen, Pierce, Wade, Ginobli, Rip, R.Miller, Houston, Steve Kerr, or Horry's level. I know you didn't mean it that way but was just making an example. But to be fair about it... I think he comes closest to Horry, but horry was consistant with that shot and he did a little bit extra to help the team.
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    I was referring to coach Woodson, not having any design 3 point-play to use in crunchtime .. the above name players use design-plays that when they come around the screen or double screen for the open 3-ball shot, u would say thats Larry Bird or Cooper ole play.
    On MLK Day, we needed a team design play for an open 3-ball shot vs Brooklyn, we had NONE.

    Melo and JR swish are like Batman and Robin, they know each other tendencies very well,
    Batman & Robin had 7 seasons on the Denver Nuggets, their team success then is the same as the Denver Nuggets success without them.
    Dont HYPE them up to be something they are not.
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    I don't think I'm going to get to watch this game (live at least). It's definitely going to be tough againt the Celtics in Boston.

    Ball movement is going to be key (as always) and they've got to not switch as much on screens, Chandler ended up on Pierce way too much.

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    [QUOTE=Kiyaman;263588]
    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller

    I was referring to coach Woodson, not having any design 3 point-play to use in crunchtime .. the above name players use design-plays that when they come around the screen or double screen for the open 3-ball shot, u would say thats Larry Bird or Cooper ole play.
    On MLK Day, we needed a team design play for an open 3-ball shot vs Brooklyn, we had NONE.


    Batman & Robin had 7 seasons on the Denver Nuggets, their team success then is the same as the Denver Nuggets success without them.
    Dont HYPE them up to be something they are not.
    I would call your concerns misguided.

    1st- Coach doesn't have to draw up special plays to get 3's (especially for Novak). Why? Because we were MORE THAN FORMIDABLE from the arc based on our sytem and game plan. We did lead the league in attempts and avg. (Sans specific Novak plays) yet something is different... I'll get to that

    2nd- JR Smith is not only having the season of his career; he's demonstrated more focus on defense, team play wih assists, and clutch game-winning shots. Not even famed coach Karl got those results.

    3rd- Occam's Razor states the simplest answer is usually the correct one.

    No team in sports can sustain the same level of performance while missing key components to prior success, unless of course they replace the lost parts with equal or better ones... simple.

    Now due to the fact that Felton and perhaps Wallace were unervalued it escapes minds that maybe we aren't as good missing key components... just maybe.

    Since MDA our knicks have taken 2 steps forward and 1 step back. Case in point:

    This year...

    Felton comes in... STAT bangs knees gets hurt
    STAT comes back... Felton gets hurt
    Shump comes back... Wallace & camby hurt

    Before it was...

    Melo comes in... whole new squad needs to gel quickly, no camp
    Stat and Melo begin to semi-click under MDA... Stat hurts back
    No training camp/short season... We remove coach
    New coach has positive impact... Stat gets hurt

    On and on and on we go. Never able to fully gel with a full squad. That means no real identity to fall back on in tought times... and we're still waiting.

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    probably not. Melo is an egotistical hot-head sore loser.
    - when he's fouled and it's not called, he pouts and complains and doesn't run back on defense,
    then he gets mad and can't control himself, leading to technicals. when angry, he tries to shoot
    his way back into games, instead of letting the game come to him, or looking to distribute to open men.

    aside from that, he's a great player, just not the consummate professional.

    expect to see a lot of Honey Nut Cheerios references at Boston Garden.
    Both of y'all need to stop hating on our MVP candidate. If MELO wasn't a consummate pro he wouldn't have elevated his game to be in the MVP conversation....if you wanna see crying, watch a Miami Heat game check watch overgrown Lebron cry whenever the defense breaths on him....Melo's headband gets knocked crooked and he STILL gets no love......not even from so-called Knicks fans....um um um Go knick, beat the smelldicks

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    The Rest of the All-Stars were announced and Melo jersey's is rightfully center stage for the East


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    Originally Posted by jimkcchief88
    Both of y'all need to stop hating on our MVP candidate. If MELO wasn't a consummate pro he wouldn't have elevated his game to be in the MVP conversation....if you wanna see crying, watch a Miami Heat game check watch overgrown Lebron cry whenever the defense breaths on him....Melo's headband gets knocked crooked and he STILL gets no love......not even from so-called Knicks fans....um um um Go knick, beat the smelldicks
    Jim, I love Melo.

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