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    I jumped back on the Amare bandwagon as hard as anyone recently, but this is a really discouraging sign. For the first time, I'm starting to think about Amare as a guy we're stuck with for another season and a half, who then becomes a huge expiring contract in '14-15.

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    Why is anyone surprised by this? In the past few years Amar'e has reminded me of Eddy Curry 2.0 with more athleticism, a better diet and work ethic. The fact that he was able to play more than a month without injuring himself is the greatest miracle since the Hudson River airplane incident. The guy has always been as fragile as a light bulb. I wouldn't doubt that if Herb Williams were to suit up and play he could last longer than Amar'e.

    The only person that deserves the blame for such a tragedy is Donnie Walsh. He was another GM in the long list of Knicks front office executives that was outsmarted by the other front office executives of the NBA. There are people that still praise him because he somehow put the Knicks under the salary cap but these people ignore the fact that he hired one of the worst coaches in the NBA, drafted Jordan Hill, traded Zach Randolph and Jamal Crawford out of desperation, sent draft picks to Houston for Tracy Mcgrady, traded away David Lee for nothing and worst of all signed Amar'e Stoudemire to a contract that I doubt any team would have even given him.

    This is the reality that we have to live with. Amar'e is going to be a man who will average between 15-30 games a season for the rest of his career. His career started falling apart before the Knicks signed him but many people didn't see this because all they wanted was for the Knicks to bring in a guy who would make them relevant.

    I always understood that one of the dumbest moves that an NBA franchise could ever make is for them to sign a player that has a history of major injuries to a long term contract. When the Knicks gave Allan Houston his lucrative contract I thought I couldn't possibly see anything more ridiculous in my lifetime until Isiah Thomas broke the bank for Eddy Curry, even then I believed that the Knicks were struck by lightning twice until Donnie Walsh proved my hypothesis wrong in the summer of 2010.

    The only option that I believe the Knicks have with Amar'e is the same option that they had with Eddy Curry and Jared Jeffries when they had about two years remaining on their contracts back in 2009. There is no doubt in my mind that he will be a very attractive expiring contract for many teams before the start of the 2014-15 campaign. By then, the Knicks have to look to get younger. The culture of overpaying players with injuries and trading for guys that are at the very end of their careers needs to come to an end. I believe that the chances of the Knicks becoming a better team in a couple of years through replacing everyone on their current roster minus Chandler, Melo and Shumpert are 50/50. Only time will tell though!
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    You gotta feel bad for Amare man, he was playing great. Hopefully he retires after the season so we can make a run at CP3 and Milsap.

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    Good new and bad news. Good news it's a right knee debridement not ACL or micro fracture surgery so it's not career ending. Bad news, the last time they said 6 weeks it turned out to be 8 and it took 10 games for him to round back into shape so I doubt he's back for the playoffs.

    Too bad, he just played his most dominant game against the Thunder.

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    Originally Posted by NY17KNICKS
    Now we really should release Sheed and get Amundson
    amundson signed with the bulls. pretty weird how quiet it was, but i saw him in a bulls uniform.

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    no one should compare amare to that fat-fuk-wide-load-lazy-fuk...eddie curry... amare is one hard workin dude...sad he has these bad knees... bad now... when he is 50....

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    Originally Posted by erivera
    amundson signed with the bulls. pretty weird how quiet it was, but i saw him in a bulls uniform.
    wow yeah I just saw, damn

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    Well it's back to melo sig

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    I hope he does retire, if he comes back and does this again for a waste of a season, it would definitely hurt the team.

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    Im disappointed for Amare but happy for our team. Amare's team defense is still just barely passable. I liked watching this team without him and Melo at the four. The team has a better identity without him.

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    The only justification for signing Amare in the first plase was as a lure for LeBron. It did not work. We are stuck with him for two more seasons beyond this one. The contract is not insured. Although an expiring contract has value, it does not have value unless the buying team has longer contracts to "unload." We will get no value and Amare is not going to "retire" with two more years at about $25M each. There could well be a medical exception for a form of amnesty in the CBA. Perhaps if his injuries end his career before the end of his contract, though the Knicks have to pay him, it will not count against the cap. Didn't we do something like that with Alan Houston?

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    Thumbs down This Shiiiii dont make sense

    Dum-Dum Donnie Walsh signed Stat because no top name Star were going to sign with the Knick's idiot GM, having a no-defense (DNP) headcoach who best contribution is as an assistant coach.

    Stat only signed with the Knicks for the $$$ 5 year $100M contract. YES? or NO?

    I dont believe any media news concerning Dolan's Knicks $100M players Stat & Melo.
    We all should know the "Oil & Water" pair made their point in two embarrassing postseason series the past two seasons.
    Before the season we all knew the answer to the question .. could Melo & Stat play together?
    Coach Woody was given 3 PG, an experience backup center .. Woody couldve gave Stat & Melo two different lineups in the rotation. Forcing Stat & Melo to play together was idiocy, especially after the two refuse to workout together during the offseason (workout their difference).

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    Originally Posted by htr10
    I jumped back on the Amare bandwagon as hard as anyone recently, but this is a really discouraging sign. For the first time, I'm starting to think about Amare as a guy we're stuck with for another season and a half, who then becomes a huge expiring contract in '14-15.
    It is what it is. Amare was looking good but him becoming injured again after only a few weeks really hass to makes it apparent to me that he is at that part of his career where his body is just not capable of playing at that level for long like Brandon Roy. The good news is Amare is a a season and a half (maybe 2) from being an expiring that the knicks could either trade for a better player or simply let expire.

    I don't think the knicks can expect him back in time for the playoffs and even if he does come back. It basically took him over a month to get back up to NBA production so yeah. With that said right now the knicks got to focus on keep the second seed if they want to go to the ECF. I See them meet Indiana in the second round and having a home game schedule will be crucial to their success.

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    So here's what we ought to do...just shelf him for the season...he is not slated back to return until the 1st weekend of the playoffs...he'll play rusty at the worst possible time...look heading into the playoffs we need to have complete team chemistry and trying to incorporate a major piece into the mix at that point will be disastrous for us (or any team).

    Plus he'll be back on an even tighter minutes restriction and again the playoffs is the wrong time to be worried about that sort of thing...let him rehab six weeks from now until next October...throw him in some Summer League games for game speed action!

    next season we'll need him to perform well for us but beyond that he'll just be an expiring contract!

    I like Amare and am a big fan so I mean no disrespect but that's what it is at this point...he'll likely not be a Knick beyond his deal (unless he signs for minimum) and Grunwald may ship him Draft night 2014 for an equally as bad an expiring deal, ala Q-Rich for Darko in 2009.

    So really all we need is one more good season out of Stat which is why I think we just sit him and get him ready for next year and hopefully the time off will allow him to be able to play more than 30 minutes per next season. Rush him back too soon and he's in and out of the lineup for the 3rd straight season!!!

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    Originally Posted by Lercher
    Amar'e should officially retire, so we can wipe his loaded contract off the books. I really hoped he'd turn his luck around this season and I gotta admit I was happy with what I saw from him. But now that he's out for another six weeks... he's pretty much useless and knowing the Knicks medical staff it could possibly turn out to be more of a 8-10 weeks rehab and even if Amare recovers within the initially scheduled window of six weeks, he'd come back rusty while we'll be already fighting in the playoffs.
    Good luck with that. He knew his knees were shot that's why he signed with the Knicks because they were willing to give him the worthless 5th year and the Suns were not. He's taking home that extra $20M in '14-15 (on top of 20M next year) come hell or high water

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