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    The Knicks will probably need to address keeping JR Smith at the end of the season and may well lose him to free agency. He signed a two year 5.6M deal before the 2013 season with a player option for his second year. The Knicks have his early bird rights and will be able to offer him 104% of last years avg. NBA salary of 5.04M or a 5.25M 1st year salary/23M 4 year deal. JR is 21st in the league in scoring right now and if you look at the guys clustered around him in the leading scorers there are a lot of guys that are max contract players or demanding max contracts like Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.

    He was underpaid last year and we're underpaying him this year. I think he's a 8-10M player maybe more with his durability and new found maturity and aggressive penetrating. I hope we can keep him but don't count on he'll re-sign with the Knicks because Woody is a "father figure" as a reason he resigns with the Knicks.
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    We have his early bird rights

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    I was worried he would leave after last season, knowing he could get more than his $2.5mil player option with the Knicks.

    Hopefully he wants to stay with the Knicks and will accept what we can offer. He's only 27 and is a hell of a 6th man for this team. Can't wait to see him kick the crap outta that lepricon squad tonight for the 2nd time this week!

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    Originally Posted by PaPZ187
    I was worried he would leave after last season, knowing he could get more than his $2.5mil player option with the Knicks.

    Hopefully he wants to stay with the Knicks and will accept what we can offer. He's only 27 and is a hell of a 6th man for this team. Can't wait to see him kick the crap outta that lepricon squad tonight for the 2nd time this week!

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    Awesome to see a true Knicks fan in MA. Lawrence, thats on the Mass border with NH isn't it? You a Rangers and Yankee fan also?

    Iggy in Denver said he's going to opt out in his final year and I hope JR doesn't say the same when he's asked but I expect it.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Awesome to see a true Knicks fan in MA. Lawrence, thats on the Mass border with NH isn't it? You a Rangers and Yankee fan also?

    Iggy in Denver said he's going to opt out in his final year and I hope JR doesn't say the same when he's asked but I expect it.
    Yeah about 15 minutes from Salem, NH.....huge Jets and Knicks fan....my father's family is from the Bronx which is why they're my teams.



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    Originally Posted by PaPZ187
    Yeah about 15 minutes from Salem, NH.....huge Jets and Knicks fan....my father's family is from the Bronx which is why they're my teams.


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    Cool, I was born and raised in the Bronx but live in Westchester now. Surprised you aren't a Giants fan, your dad must have rooted for them back when they played in Yankee Stadium. A lot of Jets fans I know are from LI and Queens from when they played at Shea.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Cool, I was born and raised in the Bronx but live in Westchester now. Surprised you aren't a Giants fan, your dad must have rooted for them back when they played in Yankee Stadium. A lot of Jets fans I know are from LI and Queens from when they played at Shea.
    Cool!

    Yeah my father's the only one in his family that is a Jets/Mets fan....he was at the AFL Championship vs Oakland in 68, he became a big Namath fan and grew up with Jets huge upset over Colts in SB III and the Miracle Mets so that's how he became a fan of those teams despite growing up in the Bronx.

    Its cool though ..... I bleed Green and White/Orange and Blue (Knicks) wouldn't change it for the world despite all the success the Giants have had. I wont lie, its been rough the past decade with Patriots run they've had, but half their fans didn't exist prior to 2001 so I say Fck them and will go toe to toe with any of those arrogant, sun shine bandwagon fans LOL I started following the Jets in the Esiason/Pete Carroll years and Kotite years......no way I am changing teams if I were even capable of it now!

    I honestly didn't have anything against the Celtics though until a couple years ago since they sucked in the 90s when Knicks had a strong squad and were legit contenders......then when we went through the post Ewing era and Isaiah years they emerged with Pierce, Walker, Anderson then Pierce, KG, Allen ....... wasnt until the playoff series two years ago when KG tripped TD to free Allen for GW 3 in game 1 when I started hating them. I only truly hated Miami and Indiana up until that point (hated Chicago too but atleast respected them).



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    Originally Posted by PaPZ187
    I was worried he would leave after last season, knowing he could get more than his $2.5mil player option with the Knicks.

    Hopefully he wants to stay with the Knicks and will accept what we can offer. He's only 27 and is a hell of a 6th man for this team. Can't wait to see him kick the crap outta that lepricon squad tonight for the 2nd time this week!

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    Please feel free to show me any link that shows JR turned down a better offer then what the Knicks were offering....I never read one article or heard one report that stated another NBA team offered JR a better contract then the knicks....

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Please feel free to show me any link that shows JR turned down a better offer then what the Knicks were offering....I never read one article or heard one report that stated another NBA team offered JR a better contract then the knicks....
    Yeah I should of clarified.....I don't know for sure if he took less to stay in NY when he accepted his player option for this season.....but common sense would say he did when you look at what Toronto signed Landry Fields for......

    here is an article (bleacher report....but still something LOL) I found quick with a google search talking about the bargain Knicks were able to retain JR for by him accepting his $2.5mil player option - [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

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    JR deserves a good contract and the Knicks should provide that to him. As of next season, he will be the reigning 6th man of the year and he has be a starter by then!

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    A hate to dissapoint the poster of this thread, but Grunwald shouldve never gave JR a player option after the first season. JR.smith is a high risk player with a very low trade-value b/c of his poor player to player relationship.
    Im sure if u ask any Knicks player who coach Woodson spent the majority of his time with in the practice center this season all would point to JR.smith.
    JR took super-star fga (19) throughout this season, plus playing every game this season averaging 34 minutes per game.

    The above sounds good right? Good enough to give JR a longer and mo$money contract right? WRONG!
    JR had months of shooting 38% and 39% with various of oponent JR were defending shooting above 50%.
    JR best talent/skills are at the SG spot, yet JR did not start any game (72) this season, which gave JR the opportunity to be a CHUCKER when bench players were in his lineup.
    Half or more of our Knicks losses this season were do to this type of rotation of JR being the 6th Man.
    Coach Woodson practically started every member on the team at the SG spot throughout our 72 games, this couldve been ended early in the season by starting JR at the SG spot.
    JR.smith is not Harden or Terry coming off the bench when their teams always had an efficient starter at their spot that they also use as a finisher with Harden or Terry.
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    I think it's all about his playoff performance. If he continues playing this way in the playoffs and it translates itno wins we need to lock him down for a few years at no more than 4-6 mil a year.

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    i dont see jr getting the same shot selections and shot attempts on another team

    theres a reason no one wanted to sign him last year, and its still the same

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    JR.smith performance is only worth $2.5M per .. next season.

    The way I see it .... JR.smith is a Knicks on the stregnth of Melo.
    JR.smith is allowed to take more shot attempts per game than Lebron James, are on the stregnth of Melo.
    Would we really want to keep JR.smith .. if we limited JR to the same amount of shot attempts as we been limiting Amare or Shump per game?
    Do u think Shump would be a better 6th man than JR nextseason?

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