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    What a stinker. J.R. didn't show up at all after being held out and then talking all that trash he did nothing to back it up. I'm very disappointed in swish with that performance. Too many jumpers, not enough attacking the rim. The pick'n'roll was not used effectively by anyone other then Felton and T.Chandler occasionally. That scissor hand off was run exactly one time with lazy effort. The team routinely trotted up and down the floor, waived off a called play and ran Iso-Melo or Iso-J.R. for almost all of the plays even when they were ice cold.

    This was a poorly coached loss too. Pablo out the entire second half after being the only one hitting 3's? Felton routinely getting pitted against Pierce on D? 1 called play for novak (who was hurt in this game I think?) Poor rebounding, poor defensive effort and poor execution of a solid, simple game plan led to an obvious loss in all quarters. The knicks need to come out with an edge next game and really turn it on early. And not with poor fouls, or chatter but with dead eye shooting and a vengeance to get to the rim. They need to go right at KG and Pierce. The game plan in game 4 was actually a good plan and if they had anyone but Melo to rely on for scoring they would have won that game. J.R. Smith didn't show up to game 5 either so we lost. I think Amar'e would solve a lot of problems if we get to the next round and he comes back healthy.

    I am impressed with Felton's play in the playoffs this year. He was a lone bright spot in the last two games and I feel comfortable with him playing the PG spot on offense. He has trouble covering Pierce, even tho pierce didn't light him up this game the space for the open look was usually there for the taller SG Pierce. Felton's efforts went a long way. As did Shumpert's. Shump is the brightest future on this team is evolving to be a menacing defender. Having guys like Pablo, Felton and Kidd around really helps a guy like Shump find his edge. i think he feeds off of their intensity on D and he gives it right back to them.


    And holy ****ing dog balls, I can't even listen to Chuck any more. I turn the channel when he comes on because I can't handle the idiocy coming out of his mouth.

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    I was Melos big fan, even when he was playing in Denver, but i may become his hater real quick. If we lose this series, it will be on him, JR, and Woodson. But mainly it will be on Melo, who is suppose to be our leader.
    This dude is not passing the ball. When he gets it, it looks like his teammates stop moving, because they know they will not get that ball.
    Melo avareges something like 1.6 assists per game in this series. What? 1.6 assists? This is disgasting.
    I am going to going to say right now, even if we win on friday, KD is a much better leader and is a better player than Melo. And the reason i think he is better, simply he makes everyone on his team better. Thats it.

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    The only thing we can hope is that the last two games actually woke them up. I thought we will stomp them after the first loss but the loss yesterday was even worse than the first one (even with Melo not hitting anything in game 4).

    It has been talked too much about the ECF against the Heat and how good we match up against them. Right now we might not survive the first round against old and washed up Celtics who aren't even the better team.

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    Default Ball movement stops players from taking foolish shots .. pass da dutchie

    Damn! im happy i miss the worst Knicks game of the season .. the train got crowded on 34th st. with angry fans leaving MSG lastnight.

    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    This team is highly allergic to assists. Do we even run any plays???

    is ISO a play? if so then yeah


    Originally Posted by MeloforMayor
    We run plays. I can see that we attempt to run plays. But when the plays are stopped by the opposing defense, our back up plan is to run iso-Melo/iso-JR (which usually results in a midrange jumpshot)
    Woody needs to get the other guys more involved on offense. I don't know about other people, but I usually get more motivated to play hard on both ends of the floor when I contribute to the offense.
    We used to run pick & role plays, but none in the postseason games.
    KG & Bass are the only players defending the paint in Boston's 48 minute rotation ..
    KG had 17 rebounds each in the last 3 games.

    Woodson has become a postseason question mark?
    Woody letting Melo play 45 minutes at the PF position is a joke in the playoffs.
    Woody playing a 3 and 4 guard offense throughout the Boston series has become a joke.
    Woody never playing 3 or 4 bigmen in the rotation throughout 82 games has caught up with him.

    Woody was suppose to knockout a couple of
    "Fire Extiguisher" after 18-59 shooting, and 3-14 shooting .. those statistics were Melo & JR in last year postseason games.

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    I'd like to apologize for not making the GT as promised, last night I got totally wasted and to be absolutely honest with you guys I got so drunk I even forgot about the game itself.

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    Originally Posted by groundpilot
    I was Melos big fan, even when he was playing in Denver, but i may become his hater real quick. If we lose this series, it will be on him, JR, and Woodson. But mainly it will be on Melo, who is suppose to be our leader.
    This dude is not passing the ball. When he gets it, it looks like his teammates stop moving, because they know they will not get that ball.
    Melo avareges something like 1.6 assists per game in this series. What? 1.6 assists? This is disgasting.
    I am going to going to say right now, even if we win on friday, KD is a much better leader and is a better player than Melo. And the reason i think he is better, simply he makes everyone on his team better. Thats it.
    If u been a Melo fan, then u should know Melo been having career problems at getting a few of his teammates to committ to the postseason games throughout his NBA career.

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    Originally Posted by Lercher
    I'd like to apologize for not making the GT as promised, last night I got totally wasted and to be absolutely honest with you guys I got so drunk I even forgot about the game itself.
    LOL. It looks like you had much better time than those of us who watched that garbage

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    If u been a Melo fan, then u should know Melo been having career problems at getting a few of his teammates to committ to the postseason games throughout his NBA career.

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    The issue in game 5 is clearly Woodson. He becomes an amateur coach come playoff time. The Hawks got no where and right now the Knicks seem to be in trouble. He has the mentality that if given enough time JR will start hitting shots.....He plays the law of averages that eventually shots will fall.......Of course Woody does not weight the consequences of allowing that to happen not does he show faith in his other players..........

    In the first quarter last night Prigioni after I beieve Garnet made a defensive rebounded knocked the ball out of KG'S hand and went off KG and was Knicks ball.....With the stop play Woodson took out Prig ) who looked baffled ) and put in Smith.......Prgioni moves the ball and plays solid defense yet Woodson goes with Smith way too soon..


    Also Jason Kidd had no steam in the tank and often passed on taking a shot........He could not stop Pierce but rather then play Prig and Shump together he went with Smith for 36 minutes....Smith refused to run back in transition I mean this is the playoffs,,,,

    Woodson is doing what he did last year and the same he did with the Hawks and it just does not work. Coach the team . he is like a little kid who is be whipped around by Doc.

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    The issue in game 5 is clearly Woodson. He becomes an amateur coach come playoff time. The Hawks got no where and right now the Knicks seem to be in trouble. He has the mentality that if given enough time JR will start hitting shots.....He plays the law of averages that eventually shots will fall.......Of course Woody does not weight the consequences of allowing that to happen not does he show faith in his other players..........

    In the first quarter last night Prigioni after I beieve Garnet made a defensive rebounded knocked the ball out of KG'S hand and went off KG and was Knicks ball.....With the stop play Woodson took out Prig ) who looked baffled ) and put in Smith.......Prgioni moves the ball and plays solid defense yet Woodson goes with Smith way too soon..


    Also Jason Kidd had no steam in the tank and often passed on taking a shot........He could not stop Pierce but rather then play Prig and Shump together he went with Smith for 36 minutes....Smith refused to run back in transition I mean this is the playoffs,,,,

    Woodson is doing what he did last year and the same he did with the Hawks and it just does not work. Coach the team . he is like a little kid who is be whipped around by Doc.

    Just to add Pablo played 13 minutes,,,,,,,,,,,,,He was averaging 18-19 as a starter.......But I guess this is the world according to Woody

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    Originally Posted by Lercher
    I'd like to apologize for not making the GT as promised, last night I got totally wasted and to be absolutely honest with you guys I got so drunk I even forgot about the game itself.
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    Originally Posted by Lercher
    I'd like to apologize for not making the GT as promised, last night I got totally wasted and to be absolutely honest with you guys I got so drunk I even forgot about the game itself.
    damn dutchman!

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    damn dutchman!
    Tonight I survived game 2 of my drinking marathon and frankly I have no ****ing idea why I'm posting on KO at 3 o'clock in the morning... holy ****, it's actually 5AM.

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    The issue in game 5 is clearly Woodson. He becomes an amateur coach come playoff time. The Hawks got no where and right now the Knicks seem to be in trouble. He has the mentality that if given enough time JR will start hitting shots.....He plays the law of averages that eventually shots will fall.......Of course Woody does not weight the consequences of allowing that to happen not does he show faith in his other players..........

    In the first quarter last night Prigioni after I beieve Garnet made a defensive rebounded knocked the ball out of KG'S hand and went off KG and was Knicks ball.....With the stop play Woodson took out Prig ) who looked baffled ) and put in Smith.......Prgioni moves the ball and plays solid defense yet Woodson goes with Smith way too soon..


    Also Jason Kidd had no steam in the tank and often passed on taking a shot........He could not stop Pierce but rather then play Prig and Shump together he went with Smith for 36 minutes....Smith refused to run back in transition I mean this is the playoffs,,,,

    Woodson is doing what he did last year and the same he did with the Hawks and it just does not work. Coach the team . he is like a little kid who is be whipped around by Doc.

    Woodson market value as a postseason headcoach had to drop-down to dirt level when we loss 2 straight games vs Boston ….. is Woody losing confidence from his players as their winning coach?

    Woodson’s flaw has been following what his star-player wants, rather than need.
    Woodson did whatever Joe Johnson wanted in Atlanta, and now with Melo in New York.
    What NBA headcoach is going to tell Amare Stoudemire he is not a NBA starter?
    Melo do not want Amare in the starting lineup, and Woody is following Melo's wishes.
    It was Melo’s on the court decision-making that made JR our 2nd option.
    Woodson should’ve put JR in the starting-lineup a long time ago. Why?
    Because we played Melo for 40 something minutes in the regular season.
    Woodson not making JR a starter, but bringing JR off the bench as early as 3 minutes after tip-off, this type of bullshiii has crippled our starting-lineup all season long.

    I don’t know any NBA player who would like being a STARTER to be taking out of every game after the first 3 minutes of tip-off.
    I’m sure no player wants that role in every game.
    Kidd was the bigman to take that 3 minute starter role early in the season so JR could come off the bench as a 6th man to warm-up with 9 minutes remaining in the 1st qtr.
    Brewer didn’t want no part of the 3 minute starter-role, this is why James White became our 3 minute starter.

    If we are going to start Prig & Shump in the postseason games, our coach must show these two players confidence at the beginning of each game.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman

    Woodson market value as a postseason headcoach had to drop-down to dirt level when we loss 2 straight games vs Boston ….. is Woody losing confidence from his players as their winning coach?

    Woodson’s flaw has been following what his star-player wants, rather than need.
    Woodson did whatever Joe Johnson wanted in Atlanta, and now with Melo in New York.
    What NBA headcoach is going to tell Amare Stoudemire he is not a NBA starter?
    Melo do not want Amare in the starting lineup, and Woody is following Melo's wishes.
    It was Melo’s on the court decision-making that made JR our 2nd option.
    Woodson should’ve put JR in the starting-lineup a long time ago. Why?
    Because we played Melo for 40 something minutes in the regular season.
    Woodson not making JR a starter, but bringing JR off the bench as early as 3 minutes after tip-off, this type of bullshiii has crippled our starting-lineup all season long.

    I don’t know any NBA player who would like being a STARTER to be taking out of every game after the first 3 minutes of tip-off.
    I’m sure no player wants that role in every game.
    Kidd was the bigman to take that 3 minute starter role early in the season so JR could come off the bench as a 6th man to warm-up with 9 minutes remaining in the 1st qtr.
    Brewer didn’t want no part of the 3 minute starter-role, this is why James White became our 3 minute starter.

    If we are going to start Prig & Shump in the postseason games, our coach must show these two players confidence at the beginning of each game.

    JR got rewarded for throwing an elbow, being suspended and his refusal to run back on defense in the first half of game 5 by Woodson playing him 36 minutes . Everyone says we are lucky to have JR at this price but Woody in sense kiss's JR's as to keep him happy. Put JR on another team where the coach does not tolerate JR's attitude or moodswings and JR will not be as productive.....I do think Woody gets the best out of JR but the cost to the team and Woodys coaching role are in question.
    This my friends is why we did not see 1 solid offer for JR and the Knicks were able to sign him for the price we did. Yes after the season he will be offered money as greed and time will allow other teams to buy into the fools gold...You want JR then u need a coach like Woody who will sacrifice others to get the best out of him.

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    why we lost

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