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    CP3 would not work salary wise. He's definately looking at a max contract, which I believe is $100M/5 [or $80M/4, either way around $20M/year]. Our salaries for the next season already burn $76.4M [which will be probably around $16M over the cap]. In order to get Paul we'd have to get rid of Amare or Chandler + some role players, which seems impossible. Amare has no value at this point, his last two season were a disgrace, maybe if he was an expiring contract we could trade him somewhere for some prospects, but with 2 years and $40M left I don't see any GM willing to sign such a garbage player. Even Colangelo wouldn't make that call.
    Chandler on the other hand is absolutely tradable. However I don't think we should try to shop him, even despite his playoffs blamage. But even if we were trying to ship him we'd have to add some pieces to that package and except of Felton and Shump we've got noone who has enough basketball value. It wouldn't also be comprehensible to trade any of them, Shump is a future star and a top notch defender and Ray brings as much PG quality as we can get for $4M/year.
    IMO our top priority should be getting rid of Novak, Camby and Kidd which would free up additional $10.1M cap room. We could force both Camby and Kidd to retire, though I'm not quite sure if it'd allow us to wipe their contracts of the books. Also, I don't know what to do with JR, he's still the 6th man of the year and could really help us if he was able to get his **** together. It'd be great if we could pick that Schroeder kid, solid ball handler, great defender, good shooter, very physical point guard. He's now projected to get selected around the 12th pick (we've got the 24th), but who knows, maybe Grunwald can make some calls and get as an early pick.

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    We have 6 months until the pre-season.....
    This board begins to blow when you hear the following :

    1. " We need to get rid of Stat "............Stat will be a knick for the next 2 seasons. He has an uninsured and a contract that nobody would take ( nobody ..........In 2 years he will be gone end of story.

    2. No team is taking Novak...........he shoots 3's and nothing else.......so does Battier, Copeland, Miller and many others.....His signing a mistake.....the ONLY team that may take him is Dumbtonio's Lakers.

    3. Felton.........again no team would tarde for him there is no reason...he will be the Knicks starting PG next season...


    4. Prigioni will not come back to the Knicks.....Woodson is too erratic.

    5. Maybe we try and trade TC but what he lacks offensively is disgraceful and not sure what teams will do....

    Maybe a trade Grant Hill, Chris Paul, Deandre Jordan and first rounder for Melo and Chandler



    Line-up for 2013 start.
    Felton
    Shump
    Melo
    Copeland
    TC

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    We have 6 months until the pre-season.....
    This board begins to blow when you hear the following :

    1. " We need to get rid of Stat "............Stat will be a knick for the next 2 seasons. He has an uninsured and a contract that nobody would take ( nobody ..........In 2 years he will be gone end of story.

    2. No team is taking Novak...........he shoots 3's and nothing else.......so does Battier, Copeland, Miller and many others.....His signing a mistake.....the ONLY team that may take him is Dumbtonio's Lakers.

    3. Felton.........again no team would tarde for him there is no reason...he will be the Knicks starting PG next season...


    4. Prigioni will not come back to the Knicks.....Woodson is too erratic.

    5. Maybe we try and trade TC but what he lacks offensively is disgraceful and not sure what teams will do....

    Maybe a trade Grant Hill, Chris Paul, Deandre Jordan and first rounder for Melo and Chandler



    Line-up for 2013 start.
    Felton
    Shump
    Melo
    Copeland
    TC

    OR.......
    PAUL
    SHUMP
    HILL
    COPELAND
    JORDAN.

    also not a winner

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    Why would Chris Paul come to New York if Melo is gone???? .

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    CP3 is 100% gettable. time will tell.

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    I would say that we are maxed out at the salary cap but we can probably pickup some veterans for really cheap.

    Stephen Jackson, and if the Lakers Amnesty Artest maybe we could pick him up.

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    Also if we can somehow trade Tyson Chandler for Irsan Ilyasova (he's a poor man's Dirk to me and was not used correctly at all in Milwaukee due to 2 super high usage guard...he could be a great #2 option) and Larry Sanders i'd be all for it.

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    Originally Posted by DrB
    You suggestions do not build a championship team. The Knicks will ride Amare, Novak , Kidd, and Camby who should politely walk away but won't because they make 19 million, 4 million, 3 million, and 4.5 million respectively. They are 3 has beens and a NEVER WAS NOVAK.
    Duh man but thats the damn problem no one has patience for this team and automatically falls into gloom and doom when things don't go our way. Down from the owner, to the media, to the fans. All that does is lead us to disappointment. Instead the knicks should try to put players in place now and build a culture of winning now that when Amare and Tyson come off the books (maybe to be re-signed for a much more realistic number).

    The knicks need to get better roleplayers and better overall depth. Get Tyson a legitimate Center to play the 5 behind him. Go after and find a real SF to play SF as a starter. Increase Cope's minutes and cut some of JR's.

    Felton/Prigioni
    Shump/JR
    ???/Cope
    Melo/Stat/Kmart
    Chandler/??? (I hope the knicks go for Steisma)

    Trade Novak for something. He has value because he is a respectable shooter who can get hot. On a team with lots of shooters or in need of a shooter he would be great.

    Anyhow make those moves and double down on the successes we had this year. The knicks need to spend the regular season perfecting a system that would work better in the playoffs like the flex Offense. And then make another run. Trust me in 2015 if the knicks have a team that has had 50 wins over the last 3 seasons they won't have to overpay players (with extra years included) to come to NY unlike before.

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    why not.....maybe not everyone wants to play with Melo like we seems to think......

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    As long as you have Melo, you won't be winning anything anytime soon.

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    ban this idiot above me

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    why not.....maybe not everyone wants to play with Melo like we seems to think......
    Thats the thing forget about going out there and selling Melo to players. The knicks need to sell playing for a winning team, in NY, alongside Melo and getting paid a fair price to do it.

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    Originally Posted by SorryyouhaveMelo
    As long as you have Melo, you won't be winning anything anytime soon.
    Rady, you're slacking on not banning this lame idiot.

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    Fact is Pacers showed us we need to get younger and bigger guys on the court to have a chance.

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