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    Announcement As a Knick fan..

    Where do you believe we are going from here?

    One Direction:
    We are making these moves in quick response to the Nets big trade on draft night, trying to make our own moves. Which might come back to haunt us in the end with absolute miserable results. Grunny could have gone out of control with his power. This could only end badly for the Knicks.

    Another Direction:
    These moves are being made to get us pieces to set us up for a big move. Grunswald may come out a bigger genius than he already is perceived after this. The Knicks acquire some major pieces and construct a well balanced and respectful team. We can sit back and watch our KnicksTape dominate again.

    Overall, no one really knows what the hell is going on in the Knicks front office right, where do you think we'll end up?

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    What I hope:

    We make defensive a priority this off season and get a more dynamic PG to pair up with Melo.

    What I expect:
    We'll get good players, but we won't address our shot blocking needs and we'll keep Felton at PG.

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    I'm hoping we get Rondo,Evans,Jefferson, and Marion

    Realistically it's not looking too good but I still have faith in Grunny to do something

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    I'm listening to Alan Hahn on ESPNNY right now and he sounds baffled onto what's going on...

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    I like to think Grunwald is playing a strategic game of chess with more moves to come but realistically I think I'm only thinking like this because we traded picks for an unwanted, injury-prone draft bust in Bargnani. Im not hating on him. I just think he needed a change of scenery and the weight of an entire franchise taking off his shoulders . He can be effective inside and out if healthy and in the right frame of mind. I do hate that our hands are tied by ineffective, bloated contracts though . We all need to hope that Amar'e can get himself fit and raring to go this year as otherwise he's a gross waist of cap
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    all this team needs is just 2nd regular scorer and brain PG.

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    I agree with the popular sentiment on this forum that Grunwald is acquiring pieces to make another move. However, I don't know if even he knows what that move is, but he's setting himself up.

    No one was taking Novak or Camby... ever. Someone MIGHT take Bargnani.

    Chandler's days here are numbered, I feel like.

    I think the whole JR saga will end up with him back in NY.

    With the contracts they have (and their co-inciding salaries), they will have the potential to make trade packages with a variety of different totals (Max deal in Amare if God was ever that kind, "kinda-big" total if the packaged say JR and Bargnani, or even just Chandler, maybe they sign and trade JR for two pieces, and Felton is a reasonably priced chip as well).

    Still, though, the one thing I don't understand is why they aren't involved in the Eric Bledsoe discussions. It seems as if LA is dying to give him away.

    CP3 is making it beyond clear that he wants to win. Now. He got the coach, they look like they might get their SG in OJ Mayo, why not get the battle/playoff/Olympic tested Tyson Chandler to replace/upgrade the young DeAndre Jordan, bring another veteran mentality to that locker room, and make yourself even more of a contender.

    CP3
    OJ
    Caron
    Blake
    Tyson

    Ship us Bledsoe and DeAndre for Tyson and Felton. Knicks get their PG of the future, lock him up with their SG of the future (shump), re-sign Melo after this year, and have you center of the future.

    2013-2014:

    Bledsoe
    Shump
    JR
    Melo
    DeAndre

    Bargnani (I wouldn't be surprised to see him moved, but I don't think they will get expiring contracts for him, so whatever they do, his $11 will be on the books this and next year, whether it's his contract or a few players who add up to $11 mil)
    Amare
    Cope
    Tony Allen

    2014-2015, I think you can find a trade partner for Amare's expiring contract.

    Going into 2015-2016... and yes it's a looong way away, but you will have on the books:

    Bledsoe (Knicks have bird rights, lock him up for $8 mil/yr)
    Shumpert (Qualifying offer 3.8 mil, but I see the Knicks locking him up no matter what it costs)
    Melo (I'll assume he's still here via a max deal)
    JR Smith ( I believe he will sign a 4 yr/22 mil contract this year, so he will be here)

    That's four solid players at a total of, I would guess, 45 million dollars or so (I'll say Shump gets 10 mill/yr).

    If DeAndre pans out, you re-sign him. If not, you go after Marc Gasol.

    Bledsoe
    Shump
    JR
    Melo
    Gasol

    CHAMPIONSHIP

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    Originally Posted by Rob Low
    I'm hoping we get Rondo,Evans,Jefferson, and Marion

    Realistically it's not looking too good but I still have faith in Grunny to do something
    YOU live in dream world but we must to survive...LOL. The Knicks will finish below the HEAT, INDIANA, CHICAGO, And the NET with out a blockbuster TRADE. That trade will send Chandler packing....

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    anyway going fast forward in 2014 will huge FA "story" . Lot key players will become FA nr 1 in NBA James.

    in Knicks MELO if i am wrong.

    Lot ppl also want to cut STAT


    point is if Knicks will not hit some1 strong now what are chances to catch some1 in july 2014.



    @DrB Chicago dropped Bellinelli and N8 dont wana comeback so whole offesive power will be again continued by DErrick
    they still wana deal Boozer and Noah wonder Why


    so i will say Pacers heat and Nets still on Knicks radar to compete.

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    Originally Posted by Rob Low
    I'm hoping we get Rondo,Evans,Jefferson, and Marion

    Realistically it's not looking too good but I still have faith in Grunny to do something
    Man I would love for us to get Rondo to run the point, but it's highly doubtful.

    IF there is any possibility the Knicks could aquire Rondo in a trade, it's a lock Shump would have to be involved. As much as I like Rondo, I wouldn't part with Shump.... he is going to be a star, you could see his potential once he felt comfortable playing post knee surgery.

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    My honest opinion, i think Grunny was hoping to do something with the Warriors as far as unloading Bargs. If they stick him with Bargs, i guess we lost some draft picks. He can't do much with the new collective bargaining agreement. If we get KMart back, i'd be surprised. Am i right that all we have left is 1.7 mil to offer anyone...if so then why are people mentioning like 3 more players (such as Delfino, Brooks, Brand, KMart) when all we can sign is one of them

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    Originally Posted by petescud
    Am i right that all we have left is 1.7 mil to offer anyone...if so then why are people mentioning like 3 more players (such as Delfino, Brooks, Brand, KMart) when all we can sign is one of them
    Because we have unlimited veteran minimums

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    OK, cool....Thanks. They say we're still alive with Delfino. But can you see him signing for 1.7 mil



    Originally Posted by Rob Low
    Because we have unlimited veteran minimums

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    We are cap-maxed for two more seasons. We have no 2014 first round pick and no first round pick in 2016. Melo's, Tyson's and Amare's contracts, barring trades, are with us for two more years. So too for Bargnani. Felton's contract extends into the 2015-16 season but at just over $4M. JR's contract will go two years beyond the 2014-15 season. Shumpert presumably will have been extended. Hardaway, I believe, will still be on this first rookie scale contract. In other words, we should have substantial cap space for free agents for the 2015-16 season. The big free agent year, however, is next year when we will not have cap space.

    I expect, of course, we will re-sign Melo. I believe he has an opt-out which he can exercise after this season. I wonder whether our questionable future beyond 2015-16 will be appealing to Melo. Philadelphia and Boston, as well as Detroit, Washington and Orlando, could be pretty strong two years from now. I also wonder whether perhaps the Knicks will move to the build rather than buy mode of improvement after our two year window with the current team closes. Since we will likely only have cap space, I expect us to continue to buy.

    I am a loyal Knick fan, but I am not particularly optimistic. We are currently very good, but not quite good enough when compared to some of the competition.

    We have a two year window with our current team. The Nets appear to have improved substantially at least for next year with Garnett and Pierce. Boston and Philly are in rebuilding mode and Toronto remains a long way from contention. Detroit and Washington appear to be emerging quickly and Orlando could be on its way. I do not think we are currently better than the Heat, the Bulls or the Pacers and I am afraid that the Nets may surpass us next year. The Nets would like nothing more than to beat the Knicks to a championship.


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    Originally Posted by petescud
    OK, cool....Thanks. They say we're still alive with Delfino. But can you see him signing for 1.7 mil
    Honestly it's not very likely. The only hope we have is if he feels he can win a title here (assuming that matters to him) or him wiling to take a pay cut to play with Pablo. With all the ridiculous contracts being signed this year he's worth a lot more than 1.7 mil.

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