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    Default Everyone is getting better, except the Knicks.

    Josh Smith to Detroit
    Andrew Bynum to Cleveland
    Andrei Kirilenko, Pierce, Garnett to Brooklyn
    OJ Mayo/Jeff Teague to Milwaukee
    Al Jefferson to Charlotte


    smh...

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    Nets are securing their spot in the ECF, we hoping for an 8th...

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Josh Smith to Detroit
    Andrew Bynum to Cleveland
    Andrei Kirilenko, Pierce, Garnett to Brooklyn
    OJ Mayo/Jeff Teague to Milwaukee
    Al Jefferson to Charlotte


    smh...
    None of those teams matter except the Nets. Nets are putting up the money and they are all in, might as well go for it as they have a very short window, probably shorter than Knicks.

    I still say we are right there, just need to make sure we sign Kmart and another point guard and we are ready for a fight.

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    Can't sleep on Detroit either.

    1. Heat
    2. Nets
    3. Bulls
    4. Pacers

    5. Knicks
    6. Pistons
    7. Hawks
    8. Bucks

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Can't sleep on Detroit either.

    1. Heat
    2. Nets
    3. Bulls
    4. Pacers

    5. Knicks
    6. Pistons
    7. Hawks
    8. Bucks

    What happens if the Cavs sign Bynum this week? a healthy Bynum & Varegao with PG-Irving and the #1 pick Bennett run run game of young teammates will make the playoffs.

    The Detroit Pistons signed a new coach in Chauncey Billups, plus sign Star Josh Smith .. GM Dumars is not finish if he want to make Billups his future HC.

    Toronto Raptors have a full roster of cheap trade-able decent role-players at $2M to $6M to trade during the season to become a playoff team. The Raptors are no longer stuck with the silly idea of building around a 2nd-tier $12M per Bargani to win .. They made a dollar off a ten cent from the Knicks.

    Then u have the Hawks, Bucks, Celtics, 76ers, Wizards, and Bobcats making deals the next 3 months ..
    The Knicks have 7 players contracts that brings the team over the luxury tax bracket ($76M), and only 2 of those players play defense. The other 5 players (Felton/JR/Melo/Bargani/Amare) are easy to score and rebound on .. Coach Woodson is going to wish he was back in Atlanta...

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    What happens if the Cavs sign Bynum this week?



    Jarret Jack - Earl Clark - Kyrie Irving - and a 50/50 Bynum.

    Instead of just Kyrie Irving.

    Regardless of whether Bynum makes it or breaks it ~ The Cavs are a much better roster now.

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    Originally Posted by dasilva1079
    None of those teams matter except the Nets. Nets are putting up the money and they are all in, might as well go for it as they have a very short window, probably shorter than Knicks.

    I still say we are right there, just need to make sure we sign Kmart and another point guard and we are ready for a fight.
    This is kind of short sighted. The Bulls and Pacers both had injuries to key players last year, one team finished trailing right on the Knicks heels, and the other team is getting Derrick Rose back. So when you say we're "right there"....where exactly is that?

    We've done absolutely nothing to contend with the Pacers, at all. The Bulls' size and physicality inside hurt the Knicks all season, thoroughly out-rebounded us...so we get a non-rebounding 7-footer. Hmph...makes sense.

    I said it in another thread and I'll detail it again, if you subtract the lockout shortened season where Tyson played 62 of the 66 games, his season highs were 80 games in 2004-05, 79 games in 2005-06 and 2007-08 -- since 2007-08, he's played 45, 51, 74, and then 66 last year...all out of 82 games (once again, not counting the lockout).

    If you factor all of that in and then the reoccurring neck issues, and nagging injuries that he plays thru...are we REALLY surprised he's getting handled in the paint by the end of the season? Not sure how he's going to hold up against all of the punishment the bigs are going to dish out this year...

    And that's just our situation at center...

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    This is kind of short sighted. The Bulls and Pacers both had injuries to key players last year, one team finished trailing right on the Knicks heels, and the other team is getting Derrick Rose back. So when you say we're "right there"....where exactly is that?

    We've done absolutely nothing to contend with the Pacers, at all. The Bulls' size and physicality inside hurt the Knicks all season, thoroughly out-rebounded us...so we get a non-rebounding 7-footer. Hmph...makes sense.

    I said it in another thread and I'll detail it again, if you subtract the lockout shortened season where Tyson played 62 of the 66 games, his season highs were 80 games in 2004-05, 79 games in 2005-06 and 2007-08 -- since 2007-08, he's played 45, 51, 74, and then 66 last year...all out of 82 games (once again, not counting the lockout).

    If you factor all of that in and then the reoccurring neck issues, and nagging injuries that he plays thru...are we REALLY surprised he's getting handled in the paint by the end of the season? Not sure how he's going to hold up against all of the punishment the bigs are going to dish out this year...

    And that's just our situation at center...
    Nuckles I think you misread Dasilva's quote. He meant of the teams metro listed only the Nets should be of concern.

    Also don't forget the Knicks get Shumpert to start the season which they did not have. And as much as a lot of us want to dump on the Bargnani trade he is still an upgrade over Camby and Novak.
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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    This is kind of short sighted. The Bulls and Pacers both had injuries to key players last year, one team finished trailing right on the Knicks heels, and the other team is getting Derrick Rose back. So when you say we're "right there"....where exactly is that?

    We've done absolutely nothing to contend with the Pacers, at all. The Bulls' size and physicality inside hurt the Knicks all season, thoroughly out-rebounded us...so we get a non-rebounding 7-footer. Hmph...makes sense.

    I said it in another thread and I'll detail it again, if you subtract the lockout shortened season where Tyson played 62 of the 66 games, his season highs were 80 games in 2004-05, 79 games in 2005-06 and 2007-08 -- since 2007-08, he's played 45, 51, 74, and then 66 last year...all out of 82 games (once again, not counting the lockout).

    If you factor all of that in and then the reoccurring neck issues, and nagging injuries that he plays thru...are we REALLY surprised he's getting handled in the paint by the end of the season? Not sure how he's going to hold up against all of the punishment the bigs are going to dish out this year...

    And that's just our situation at center...
    I meant the teams that metro listed in the opening of the thread. Pacers, Miami and Bulls is a whole different ball game. We need major help in rebounding and another reliable point guard. Kinda hard to see where we are going from here since there is no flexibility money wise. I say, trust in Grunny to find us another Copeland and Pablo out there

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    Originally Posted by dasilva1079
    I meant the teams that metro listed in the opening of the thread. Pacers, Miami and Bulls is a whole different ball game. We need major help in rebounding and another reliable point guard. Kinda hard to see where we are going from here since there is no flexibility money wise. I say, trust in Grunny to find us another Copeland and Pablo out there
    Yep, I completely misread your post. My bad man, you were right from the beginning.

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    I think the nets are old, and can have several injuries due to age this year. I see us in the top 5 in the east still and we still don't know who else we'll get. Hoping for Kmart, Brooks and Metta

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    Knicks are gonna get the number 1 seed this year and you can quote me on that

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    First off the pistons are still gonna stink.... as for other teams getting better then teams got worse too. Atlanta lost Teague and josh Smith to 2 different teams instead of having and above average hawks team to compete with like last year we have the bucks and pistons who aren't factors. The nets aren't gonna be 2nd, they're making alot of moves but it's not gonna work out. Don't believe the hype. How are we not getting better when we traded a one dimensional player for a 3 dimensional one. Even if it's one player it's still an upgrade. I'm just gonna say this now. He will impact our team more then kg will impact the nets... how are we not getting better when shump will take leaps and bounds next year. A better shump makes us beat indy... people are comparing our last years team to teams Making moves now... don't believe the hype. We will be cool. We still got one power player to get. Maybe its mwp or someone else but we're still gonna be right there... the same people praising the nets were the same ones complaining that we were to old. Don't believe the hype. The knicks will still be the second seed.

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    Always wrong as usual.

    Josh Smith is an all start talent.
    So is Greg Monroe
    and Andre Drummond is looking like one too. Detroit has a strong team.

    Atlanta got Paul Milsap. Along with Horford and Korver, Jennings is on the same level as Teague, if they sign him, they'll still be a playoff team. Hawks also get Lou Williams back.

    Bucks easily make the playoffs with OJ Mayo and Jeff Teague in the back court. That's a better back court than the Knicks. Larry Sanders is the best defensive big man in the East not named Roy Hibbert and you better do your research on John Henson. Stop being a fool.

    It's just really stupid assuming Knicks are going to be a 2nd seed when they haven't improved the roster significantly.

    Originally Posted by knicksince 93
    First off the pistons are still gonna stink.... as for other teams getting better then teams got worse too. Atlanta lost Teague and josh Smith to 2 different teams instead of having and above average hawks team to compete with like last year we have the bucks and pistons who aren't factors. The nets aren't gonna be 2nd, they're making alot of moves but it's not gonna work out. Don't believe the hype. How are we not getting better when we traded a one dimensional player for a 3 dimensional one. Even if it's one player it's still an upgrade. I'm just gonna say this now. He will impact our team more then kg will impact the nets... how are we not getting better when shump will take leaps and bounds next year. A better shump makes us beat indy... people are comparing our last years team to teams Making moves now... don't believe the hype. We will be cool. We still got one power player to get. Maybe its mwp or someone else but we're still gonna be right there... the same people praising the nets were the same ones complaining that we were to old. Don't believe the hype. The knicks will still be the second seed.

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    Originally Posted by knicksince 93
    First off the pistons are still gonna stink.... as for other teams getting better then teams got worse too. Atlanta lost Teague and josh Smith to 2 different teams instead of having and above average hawks team to compete with like last year we have the bucks and pistons who aren't factors. The nets aren't gonna be 2nd, they're making alot of moves but it's not gonna work out. Don't believe the hype. How are we not getting better when we traded a one dimensional player for a 3 dimensional one. Even if it's one player it's still an upgrade. I'm just gonna say this now. He will impact our team more then kg will impact the nets... how are we not getting better when shump will take leaps and bounds next year. A better shump makes us beat indy... people are comparing our last years team to teams Making moves now... don't believe the hype. We will be cool. We still got one power player to get. Maybe its mwp or someone else but we're still gonna be right there... the same people praising the nets were the same ones complaining that we were to old. Don't believe the hype. The knicks will still be the second seed.

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    u are drunk .. Detroit Pistons just took Atlanta Hawks 5th seed spot by adding Josh Smith and coach Billups to the Pistons.

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