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    Default Beno Udrih (The best option if possible)

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    Forget about Bobby Brown, forget about other broken old players, and definitely forget about Delonte West. If the Knicks can somehow pull off this sign out of there asses, it will be the biggest steal for the Knicks this off season. This guy could play, a great role player and is desperately needed for the Knicks. We are all seeing he Knicks almost not change at all this season which is okay except okay sucks. The Knicks need help and with Udrih we don't have to worry about the back court. The front court is an issue but at least we will look somewhat better. I'm sure you are aware of his game and what he can bring to the Knicks offense and he has a decent defensive game as well.

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    Yeah but he won't want to be a 3rd string PG. He'll want to start. He didn't do well in Milwaukee cause he needs and wants the minutes and doesn't like coming off the bench.....I think your right though, out of the bunch its worth a shot....He can play when he wants to

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    Originally Posted by petescud
    Yeah but he won't want to be a 3rd string PG. He'll want to start. He didn't do well in Milwaukee cause he needs and wants the minutes and doesn't like coming off the bench.....I think your right though, out of the bunch its worth a shot....He can play when he wants to
    I was thinking the same, there is nothing wrong with competing for a spot. Both Felton and Udrih will have there minutes. Woodson will have to manage minutes better than he did last season and with depth in the guard position it will be a lot easier. I see them both starting different games, experiment what works and what doesn't.

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    Devin Harris signed a 1yr vet min contract with the Mavs so it's possible that we could get Beno for a 1yr min deal. Grunny work your magic.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Devin Harris signed a 1yr vet min contract with the Mavs so it's possible that we could get Beno for a 1yr min deal. Grunny work your magic.
    We're no longer after Delonte West so I guess like I originally suspected the Knicks found out how bad of an idea this was.

    Appears we may be moving on from Beno too....Hadadi is now on our radar


    Boy this organization is making the fan base hop on and off of the Chuck Kool-Aid Wagon multiple times weekly and/or daily.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Devin Harris signed a 1yr vet min contract with the Mavs so it's possible that we could get Beno for a 1yr min deal. Grunny work your magic.
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    harris agreed to 3 years and 9 mil. he only signed for a less because of an injury that was discovered after the original agreement.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Devin Harris signed a 1yr vet min contract with the Mavs so it's possible that we could get Beno for a 1yr min deal. Grunny work your magic.
    The Great Grunwald. Frigging guy is a magician signing MWP, Kmart and Beno to min level contracts. You can credit that new CBA, never have I seen so many guys sign minimum contracts before.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    The Great Grunwald. Frigging guy is a magician signing MWP, Kmart and Beno to min level contracts. You can credit that new CBA, never have I seen so many guys sign minimum contracts before.
    He's not because every GM in the league did this. All of those signings came after the pickens became slim.


    I mean we knew K-Mart wasn't going anywhere so his signing wasn't magical. MWP had to be amnestied something we had no clue if it was going to happen not magical


    Beno okay, decent signing but several other team got point guards of equal to higher caliber for similar dollars.


    Magical would have been getting someone like

    Livingston/Mullens/Daye to sign here for vet min deals while still signing Pablo/K-Mart/Artest

    Felton/Livingston/Pablo
    Smith/Shumpert/Hardaway
    Melo/MWP/Daye
    Bargnani/Amar'e/K-Mart/Leslie
    Tyson/Mullens


    Trade Felton and Leslie for Andre Miller(A.K.A. Richard Pryor) and 2nd round picks(2014) in some type of 3-team deal to dump Felton's 2015 salary.

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    Originally Posted by 3G4G
    He's not because every GM in the league did this. All of those signings came after the pickens became slim.

    Give the guy some credit. Beno could have signed with anyone of 30 teams but he signed with the Knicks, he was supposed to have signed with Memphis for a 1yr above the min deal but he chose NY.

    I did say that the new CBA was mostly responsible for the ridiculous amount of guys signing for the minimum. Gone are the days where a Rashard Lewis is getting a 100M deal or Jerome James and Stromile Swift 35M 5 year deals.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Give the guy some credit. Beno could have signed with anyone of 30 teams but he signed with the Knicks, he was supposed to have signed with Memphis for a 1yr above the min deal but he chose NY.

    I did say that the new CBA was mostly responsible for the ridiculous amount of guys signing for the minimum. Gone are the days where a Rashard Lewis is getting a 100M deal or Jerome James and Stromile Swift 35M 5 year deals.
    Without touching the deals from last year or right after the lockout players are still getting paid. Have you been unconscious all summer with exception to this week as we acquired Beno?

    This summer went as follows....

    Gerald Henderson 3yrs $18mil

    Kyle Korver 4yrs $24mil

    Martell Webster 4yrs $24mil

    O.J. Mayo 3yrs $24mil

    Carl Landry 4yrs $26mil

    Jarret Jack 4yrs $26mil

    Kevin Martin 4yrs $28mil

    Jose Calderon got 4yrs $29mil

    Ellis 3yrs $30mil

    David West 3yrs $36mil

    Tiago Splitter got 4yrs $36mil

    Al Jefferson 3yrs $41mil

    John Wall 5yrs $80mil


    All these deals are somewhat iffy and very similar dollarswise as in yrs past. Only difference is the length of terms on deals. They've shortened them. You could even argue did D-12 and CP3 truly deserve the deals they received.

    When you use the word.."MAGICAL" it doesn't jive with Grunwald....maybe Morey but not Grunwald. What Grunwald did was "status quo". There are GMs who are currently making equal to better moves at this late stage in the game.

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    True. I keep forgeting how Woody plays his roster. If thats the case, i think we do well with either guard as a 3rd option

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    Originally Posted by petescud
    True. I keep forgeting how Woody plays his roster. If thats the case, i think we do well with either guard as a 3rd option

    Didnt Beno lose his starting-job on the Kings to rookie Isiiah Thomas?

    Any 3rd tier PG would do well in Woodson's chucker-system of walking the ball upcourt for ISO-ISO Melo.
    Our PG duties has one easy task on offense "Pass the ball to Melo" ....

    The way Shumpert played PG in the summer league was exactly, bring the ball up and pass it off to (Melo) on the high post or wing then head to the corner, very boring and predictable with no change, just the same repetitious and boring offensive sets.

    Here's a note to remember ......
    Lastseason we started the 2012-13 season off with a 18-5 run, and during that run PG-Raymond Felton average close to 20 pts, and 8 ast, taking 16 FGA per game. That was put to an immediate STOP! WHY? bcause Felton was our 2nd option on offense during the 18-5 run. Which made JR.smith a 3rd to 4th option depending on a hot Tyson or Novak.
    The Knicks medical staff came into the picture stating, "Felton will b out for 4 to 6 weeks with a fracture-pinky finger" LMAO
    When Felton return from the so-call fracture pinky-finger injury LMAO, Felton never took over 6 shots per game, averaging 4 to 5 assist bringing the ball up to only pass to Melo or JR.
    What happen to making 7.1 Tyson Chandler the center of attention on offense? bring the ball up for a give n go with Tyson receiving the ball at the foul line? It worked so well with Lin-Sanity, that the Indiana Pacers ran that move with 7.2 Roy Hibbert consistently throughout the 2012-13 season, because of the season injury to their star-player Granger.

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    I hope he signs with the Knicks. At least one season he shot a great percentage in the paint, 70 or so percent I think. I like his tempo as well.

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    SB Nation is reporting this a bit differently, namely that option #1 is to sign Udrih and option #2 is still to sign Bobby Brown:

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    with the deadline for the Bobby Brown option being Aug 15th.

    This makes sense to me, and I am fine either way.

    Udrih is the safer play in terms of an established player. However, there are some questions (see above) about his attitude with playing a limited role. Brown might have more upside offensively, especially in light of his sterling play in the recent Drew League games, and a better attitude to work hard regardless of minutes. However, there is also considerably more risk both in terms of his experience and defense.

    Neither option is perfect, neither option is horrible. Plausible arguments can be made either way.

    I tend to believe that the Udrih situation is self-fulfilling. If he signs, then some of his attitude questions may have been addressed. If he doesn't sign, then we might actually be better off with Brown anyway. When you are looking at a 3rd string PG, attitude can be as important as talent.

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