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    Originally Posted by petescud
    True dat about the players. I know if we can move the ball around for more open shots, and not be so predictable on offense, we'd look a lot better. Defensively, i think we all know where we stand there. My guess closing out games, we have to go with Tyson-Melo-Shump-Metta and Prigs
    Shump & Prigs are on the same-page on defensive-end, the two are not isolation-players they have to become more creative for one another on offense this season, other than throw the ball to Felton, JR, or Melo to create a isolation play.

    Kenyon Martin is our best CLOSER and crunchtime defensive player on the roster.
    HC Woody will have to let Tyson & K-Mart get playingtime together to build some kind of same-page chemistry in our frontline if we plan on winning. Especially after the poor performance our frontline gave us in all 12 postseason games
    (I didnt Forget!).
    When Meta see "Tyson & K-Mart" mixing together in the same lineup with effort to win game after game, thats when Meta performance become our extra 3rd leg for the win (Invaluable).
    If HC Woody dont start the season building chemistry with Tyson & K-Mart in the same lineup ..
    And building chemistry with Prig & Shump in the same lineup ..
    Then expect the unexpected from this team. It's Woody's call...

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Shump & Prigs are on the same-page on defensive-end, the two are not isolation-players they have to become more creative for one another on offense this season, other than throw the ball to Felton, JR, or Melo to create a isolation play.

    Kenyon Martin is our best CLOSER and crunchtime defensive player on the roster.
    HC Woody will have to let Tyson & K-Mart get playingtime together to build some kind of same-page chemistry in our frontline if we plan on winning. Especially after the poor performance our frontline gave us in all 12 postseason games
    (I didnt Forget!).
    When Meta see "Tyson & K-Mart" mixing together in the same lineup with effort to win game after game, thats when Meta performance become our extra 3rd leg for the win (Invaluable).
    If HC Woody dont start the season building chemistry with Tyson & K-Mart in the same lineup ..
    And building chemistry with Prig & Shump in the same lineup ..
    Then expect the unexpected from this team. It's Woody's call...

    A K-Mart/Chandler frontcourt is taking this team nowhere. Prigs was putrid yesterday and Shump looks like he has more chemistry with Jr than Prigs.

    We're going to get torched by the guards this year and our front court is going to get out physical by other team's front courts and when I say FC I'm talking 4/5.

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    Originally Posted by 3G4G
    A K-Mart/Chandler frontcourt is taking this team nowhere. Prigs was putrid yesterday and Shump looks like he has more chemistry with Jr than Prigs.

    We're going to get torched by the guards this year and our front court is going to get out physical by other team's front courts and when I say FC I'm talking 4/5.

    Dont sleep on Kenyon Martin, he was the first pick in the draft for a reason.
    K-Mart LEADERSHIP improves his teammates performance, we are 16-2 with K-Mart.
    A tandem of Tyson & K-Mart would put Tyson backup for defensive player award.
    Jason Kidd never won as many games in a season untill he was tandem with K-Mart on the Nets.
    K-Mart greed for a max contract after his 4th season in the NBA stop him from winning a championship ring.
    K-Mart got the max contract in a sign n trade to the ISO-Melo Denver Nuggets .. be careful what u ask for

    The system the Knicks run for 48 mpg is considered a small-ball halfcourt isolation set, this system gave us a 8-15 record in the 2011-12 season with the blame going on the PG, it took a D.League PG-LinSanity to change that system to a uptempo transition system to lead us to a .500 record team 25-25 in 2011-12 (Jeremy Lin got NBA Fame for this act.), and rookie Shump came out of his slump during the LinSanity run.

    This halfcourt isolation system was not a product of HC Dantoni, it was the system that star-player ISO-Melo been running on the Denver Nuggets for 8 years. HC Dantoni was force to run this system to the point of quitting the team. Now this system is forced on Woodson to run if he wants to keep his headcoaching job on the Knicks.

    This system did not work well on two summer league teams, nor did it work well in 3 years of postseason games.
    This system won 54 games last year with the big help of several veteran "Old-Heads" coaching on the court and from the bench.

    Melo & JR could score all day in a isolation system (one on one, individual b.ball), Felton & Bargani need big-body screens to score in a isolation system. The rest of the Knicks roster are not isolation scorers, they score on ball-movement and moving without the ball, which are Pick n Roll, give n go, catch n shoot, backdoors, ect., ect..
    Last year preseason games of Prigs n Copeland consistent Pick n Rolls, who's tutering was that Woodson or Kidd???

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Dont sleep on Kenyon Martin, he was the first pick in the draft for a reason.
    K-Mart LEADERSHIP improves his teammates performance, we are 16-2 with K-Mart.
    A tandem of Tyson & K-Mart would put Tyson backup for defensive player award.
    Jason Kidd never won as many games in a season untill he was tandem with K-Mart on the Nets.
    K-Mart greed for a max contract after his 4th season in the NBA stop him from winning a championship ring.
    K-Mart got the max contract in a sign n trade to the ISO-Melo Denver Nuggets .. be careful what u ask for

    The system the Knicks run for 48 mpg is considered a small-ball halfcourt isolation set, this system gave us a 8-15 record in the 2011-12 season with the blame going on the PG, it took a D.League PG-LinSanity to change that system to a uptempo transition system to lead us to a .500 record team 25-25 in 2011-12 (Jeremy Lin got NBA Fame for this act.), and rookie Shump came out of his slump during the LinSanity run.

    This halfcourt isolation system was not a product of HC Dantoni, it was the system that star-player ISO-Melo been running on the Denver Nuggets for 8 years. HC Dantoni was force to run this system to the point of quitting the team. Now this system is forced on Woodson to run if he wants to keep his headcoaching job on the Knicks.

    This system did not work well on two summer league teams, nor did it work well in 3 years of postseason games.
    This system won 54 games last year with the big help of several veteran "Old-Heads" coaching on the court and from the bench.

    Melo & JR could score all day in a isolation system (one on one, individual b.ball), Felton & Bargani need big-body screens to score in a isolation system. The rest of the Knicks roster are not isolation scorers, they score on ball-movement and moving without the ball, which are Pick n Roll, give n go, catch n shoot, backdoors, ect., ect..
    Last year preseason games of Prigs n Copeland consistent Pick n Rolls, who's tutering was that Woodson or Kidd???

    Kenyon Martin has to play 24-28 minutes a game this season. Anything less will make us a C level team, he's easily our best interior defender and pick and roll defender. Martin and World Peace should spend as much time on the court together along with Melo.

    I don't mind giving up size by playing Martin at center.
    Martin is 6"9, MWP is 6"7 and Melo is 6"8, but all these guys are basically 240lbs and very strong and can bully an entire front court.

    Melo has to step up his rebounding his season and give us 7 rebounds. Stoudimire and Bargs can't rebound, so we need Melo to level up.


    I honestly hope JR gets traded for an actually shot blocker or play making PG we need.

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    if JR wont be in Knicks uni this team is loosing 45% of scoring option

    i dont see 20+ pts by Shump and MWP
    i dont see anyone besides JR scoring 20+ in 50% games of season

    JR is 2nd fastest player in Knicks roster
    only what he needs is some1 like Jax

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