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    Default Veterans and young players you want?

    Last season's older veterans were tremendous for the Knicks, but they also got hurt and/or slowed down. We have some youth, I think our biggest probably right now is probably lack of high IQ veterans, and maybe lack of IQ period.

    I'd love Andre Miller on this team. Not only is he an older veteran with high IQ, but he's only missed ten games in his career I think.

    I'd love Faried on this team. A VERY energetic player who would greatly improve the Knicks' rebounding.

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    It's going to be hard to get any player that has any meaningful value but to build off this thread you created...

    by team I'm only interested in young players primarily in the Eastern Conference


    Celtics-Favorini
    Raptors-Terrence Ross/D.J. Augustin
    Nets-Tyshawn Taylor
    Sixers-Thaddeus Young

    Pacers-We Have No Shot At Any but I'd want......Lance Stephenson
    Bulls-We Have No Shot At Any but I'd want.....Butler
    Cleveland-C.J. Miles/Earl Clark
    Detroit-Siva/Singler
    Bucks-Illyasova/Henson/Wolters

    Wizards-Saraphin/Booker
    Magic-Harkless/Moore/Nicholson
    Bobcats-MKG/Byombo
    Hawks-Jenkins
    Heat-No One

    I pretty much want guys who are young and on cheap short deals that fill a need, have a definitive skill set, or creates mismatches

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    I'll say it.. David Lee!! the player has more heart than this whole Knicks team does.

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    Originally Posted by WVKnickfan
    I'll say it.. David Lee!! the player has more heart than this whole Knicks team does.
    Would love him back on the Knicks, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    Would love him back on the Knicks, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
    Me either RJ,Biggest mistake the knicks could have done was let him walk. Now we have a bunch of players that could care less.

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    Originally Posted by WVKnickfan
    Me either RJ,Biggest mistake the knicks could have done was let him walk. Now we have a bunch of players that could care less.
    I was at first against it, but then when Amar'e was making a huge impact on the Knicks I was fine with it, so I'm not gonna change my feelings on that. Injuries happened. The lesson here is to keep guys such as Lee. Stay loyal to guys with such talent and hard work. That's how you build a winning organization.

    Lee and Nate are the top two former Knicks I'd like to see come back.

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    Yeah it would be nice to see both of them come back home were they belong. Shoot after watching this team play I would welcome anybody back.

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    Originally Posted by WVKnickfan
    Yeah it would be nice to see both of them come back home were they belong. Shoot after watching this team play I would welcome anybody back.
    Yeah. The crazy thing is, even in 2008-2010 I felt the Knicks could make the Playoffs. I didn't like the coaching, the players had a lot of work to do, but they caught fire and won some big games. So far this season I'm not seeing any of that. The Knicks don't have enough youth that can pull out some surprising wins and any older veterans such as last season to bring leadership. It's just flat out been bad for the most part.

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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    Yeah. The crazy thing is, even in 2008-2010 I felt the Knicks could make the Playoffs. I didn't like the coaching, the players had a lot of work to do, but they caught fire and won some big games. So far this season I'm not seeing any of that. The Knicks don't have enough youth that can pull out some surprising wins and any older veterans such as last season to bring leadership. It's just flat out been bad for the most part.
    I agree with everything you said man. I think the 2008-10 team could have made some noise in the playoffs but we will never know which sucks.They was fun to watch b/c they never quit and always left it all on the court.

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    We have to make a trade for one-reason, and one reason only ..
    13 of our players are having problems feelin Woodson's ISO-Melo system.

    Andre Miller equals Felton .. both have average passin-skillz, and pushin the ball is not one of their best qualities.

    Before the February deadline we have to trade ISO-Melo, Amare, and fire Woodson on the spot.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman

    Andre Miller equals Felton .. both have average passin-skillz,
    Andre miller averaged 11 assists one year and is 10th all time in assists

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    There's a lot of things I like about this team. Mainly the possibilities of improved defense with the combo of Chandler, World Peace and Kmart. But a serious issue is lack of ball movement and offensively Melo is the only reliable and consistent scorer. We can't open the court up unless we've got more scorers. Than we can say 'Melo, share the ball'. You can't really say that now because there's no one to share it with, well not really. I just don't trust JR, Felton or Bargnani as a solid supporting offensive cast.

    Shumpert could develop into the missing piece we need, but the Knicks organization has never been one to develop players.
    Melo can't play with a dominate PF, so forget Kevin Love. If anything I'd live to have David Lee back and bring in a slashing shooting guard. Say Monti Ellis. Again, I'm not thinking supper stars, just players that can assist offensively and create spacing in the Melo era.

    Chandler
    D.Lee
    Melo
    Ellis
    Felton

    Kmart
    Bargnani
    World Peace
    Hardaway Jr
    Prigioni

    This is a realistic option. Next year is the final year of Amare's contract. Trade him to GS for D.Lee. They may like the idea of getting 20 million off the books. Or just wait to sign Lee outright in 2015, but don't over pay for him. Ellis is more affordable. A trade of JR Smith for Ellis should work.
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    Originally Posted by donchris
    This is a realistic option. Next year is the final year of Amare's contract. Trade him to GS for D.Lee.
    No one is accepting a trade for Amare. Why do people think Amare is tradeable? There is no team on this planet that will take Amare. NYK is stuck with it just like they are stuck with C.Smith

    GS is not about to give up David Lee for a loss.

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    Originally Posted by kinein
    No one is accepting a trade for Amare. Why do people think Amare is tradeable? There is no team on this planet that will take Amare. NYK is stuck with it just like they are stuck with C.Smith

    GS is not about to give up David Lee for a loss.

    GS need a Tyson Chandler not Amare. Plus Dolan is not going to trade Amare's $44M 2yr contract to the next team who will have a 30 minute playingtime slot waiting for Amare to be Amare.

    Dolan did that already when he traded Marcus Camby to Denver for Mcdyess.
    Camby became an elite center for the Denver Nuggets averaging 11 pts, 13 rb, 2 ast, and 3 blk per for 5 straight seasons.
    Dolan had to pay Mcdyess Max $$$ for 3 straight years of no service.
    And when Mcdyess left the Knicks and signed with Detroit, Mcdyess became a 30 minute player to help Detroit go to the FINALS.

    The Knicks so-call injured players...

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    Originally Posted by kinein
    No one is accepting a trade for Amare. Why do people think Amare is tradeable? There is no team on this planet that will take Amare. NYK is stuck with it just like they are stuck with C.Smith

    GS is not about to give up David Lee for a loss.
    Chandler, Amare, and Felton for Marc Gasol, Z-Bo, and Mike Conley

    No way the Grizzlies would turn that deal down....

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