These two seem unfazed by the rumors
According to Wojo Dolan is so paranoid by Masai he probably isn't capable of getting any deals done going forward. This is what happens when you always make a habit of overpaying…. teams will always demand you overpay. At the same time this organization needs to be capable of getting deals done. Oh and if he clearly felt he won the Carmelo trade, then he wouldn't and shouldn't care about public perception….because really if that's the case why is Woodson still coaching this team and why did he rehire Mills? Talk about shook
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I can live with Felton, MWP, and 2018 1st round pick for Lowry, because, honestly, I'm not sure how long from now is 2018, but it seems pretty far away.
Felton for Lowry straight up or no deal...Just start Pablo and use Felton as a back-up if even........Its almost like if Felton is on the Knicks there is some hidden agreement that he must be our starter........Pablo's record as a starter is proven,,,,,,,we lack defense and he is our best defender PG on the roster so why is there even a question......Play him 25 minutes and use Felton as the back up.......
Report this morning is Dolan killed this deal. Good for him.
Dolan agreed to ship out Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Timofey Mozgov, Felton, $3 million in cash, plus a 2014 first-round pick and two second-round picks. Donnie Walsh, who was the president of the Knicks at the time, felt the asking price was too high and that by the Knicks waiting until the trading deadline, Denver — which knew it had to trade Anthony — would have agreed to rework the deal. Instead, Dolan took over the negotiations and agreed to it days before the deadline.
apparently, Mills came to Dolan with the trade being an unprotected #1 AND Hardaway, dolan was like WTF and pissed that they leaked it out and shot it down
This trade isn't over yet.
Yesterday the Knicks declined an offer of Lowry for Felton and Shumpert straight up. Then we offered Felton-MWP but refused to include the 2018 pick. Between Toronto demanding the pick too and the media leak, Dolan pulled out. Today they are back in discussions so you know its only a matter of time til the pick is added. ALSO Tim Hardaway Jr will not be included in this trade, because apparently Dolan loves the kid.
Dolan made a smart move.
Lowry's not that good and we can't keep giving up first round picks...
It's Good and then again very BAD I'll explain
But But But But….But But But 2018 first how is it relevant to re-building around Melo for the next 5yrs? That pick is rendered useless.
How come Dolan didn't nix the Bargnani trade, a trade that supposedly was made by Warkentein pushed on Grunwald? Who he eventually fired. Was he fired based on public perception on how Masai got over? Appears so. At the time though it involved CAA and didn't most Knick fans justify the trade because of Novak's salary and 2015 freed up cap space?
Well Felton is on the books in the 2015 so who is going to be Melo's running mate in 2015?<------------Another Legendary developing myth
What if Felton's $4.5mil salary is the difference between acquiring Rondo compared to Rondo and Love if Melo were to take a semi pay cut… let's say Kobe type pay cut?
Now Dolan won't do a deal but hey if we play Boston tonight and our guards get their faces blown off, then nothing can be said of our point guard situation. You best believe Mills couldn't get Miller from the Nuggets, Dolan passing on Lowry, Bulls picked up Augustin….the next team we contact will ask for the 2108 pick(since according to Isola the Rap deal was already agreed to). So while Masai may not be Dolan's cup of tea anymore get ready to insert the next GM as the one who will be.
Like I said last night we're in such a bad predicament. While we don't want to give up assets we still have to get deals done in order to improve the roster, else we won't improve the roster.
I wonder how Felton feels and will feel coming back after his injury? He's playing like Portland Felton, looks out of shape and not performing well. Portland Felton never responded well that year and I doubt this Felton will either.
I have to say to myself, how did they obtain Lowry? Did they give away a first rounder...I don't recall the Raptors giving Houston much at all for him. If the Knicks give away Shump, Hardaway and a First, then they need all their fans to give up on this team....I've been a fan since late 60's and i think they'd lose me. Lowry isn't all that much better then Felton imo. Whats he avg over Felton 4 more pts a game and 2 assist, and your going to give them the store for that