No Deron and Melo rumors were no farfetched at the time…they both had circumstances prior to that led up to them being believable.
Deron got Sloan to quit, Jazz were not playing well
Melo would not sign extension with Denver and asked to be traded
Lebron leaving Cleveland give me a break that was believable to the extent he was entering free agency and looking forward to it, for crying out loud.
My personal feelings about Melo have nothing to do about this rumor having legs.
Do I think it's possible Melo could be traded? Yes because we're a bad team, he's entering free agency and there's a possibility we could lose him for nothing.
Do I think the Knicks and Clipper rumor has legs….No because I don't think the Clippers are remotely interested in trading Blake and Doc Rivers has major say in who stays and who goes and they are winning games, about 5-6gms back of having the best record in Basketball.
Edit: Just to be clear, I don't mean that it was rumored, I mean that you knew it was likely going to happen by that time in each of those seasons. Melo to the Knicks and Deron to the Nets both happened in the end of February, until that time it was all speculation at best and Knicks fans were told that we were dreaming. Lebron didn't announce he was leaving the Cavs until the Summer, no way anyone knew for sure what he was going to do until the minute he did it.
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And, for what it's worth, Melo has already announced he is going to be a free agent. Melo leaving the Knicks seems a lot more likely than it was Lebron leaving his home town and winning Cleveland team a few years ago.
Maybe not Deron to the Nets but let's keep it real..the discussion of Deron to the Nets wasn't really talked about at all. The Jazz did not make it clear he was available nor did any major market teams show interest publicly going after him. But no doubt when Sloan quit speculation grew that he could be moved. You'd have a point if Deron to Nets news broke 4-5mos prematurely to him being traded there but it wasn't. I'm referring more to the stories being premature to reality
Miller kept it nip and tuck though meanwhile the Nugz(Masai and Kronk) didn't because they knew they had Nets/Knicks as bargaining chips therefore making it as public as possible to drive up Melo's trade price.
As far as Melo is concerned yes it was believable he would come here because his reps/Nugz made it public he wanted to be in New York. The Melo to New York rumors were rampant at season's begin all the way near deadline.
Sorry this isn't even remotely the same comparison of Melo Knicks/Clipper talk. It would be one thing if say Wojo was introducing this talk but can't be taken too seriously with Broussard. Melo has to opt out in order to get the most money so not quite the same as a Lebron exodus. I believe there is a chance Melo could leave still but it doesn't make the fabricated Melo/Blake rumor true.
I'm trying to educate in stories being premature versus reality. I mean seriously I've never heard an insider use the approach of teams "discussing internally" and both team being more interested in not making a move. That's a red flag of BS if I ever saw one. This is nothing more than social media getting the best of the Imaginary Glorified reported story. This talk was birth via internet.
u r mostly complaining on this board after some1 other
dont read it when u dont get it i watched this game and i saw it commentators too [ i was watching in as CSN feed]
Terrence Jones scores tech for same thing i am comparing this call to Bosh vs Blazers if u havent seen that go check NBA League pass.
and ESPN hate Knicks
google for it and u will see it if u dont care go watch other teams.
GUYS wake up and smell the coffee! We suck and Melo is nearing 30 years old. He wants to win. Not lose in embarassing fashion game after game.
Put yourself in his shoes and stop thinking like a fan...
Play on an A level team with superstar help or play on a C level team with no help. Come on. Money doesn't matter when you play with your best friends that are all stars with you, just look at the Heat.
"The Knicks are back" - Amare
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Doc Rivers denied the Los Angeles Clippers' part in possible trade talks involving Blake Griffin and termed the speculation about Carmelo Anthony as "so stupid."
"My whole issue with any of that ... is that that network to me reports a story that they created and then they do reports on it for the next two days, on a story that they created," Rivers said. "But it's stupid."
Rivers said he did not need to talk to Griffin about the rumors. Griffin leads the Clippers in scoring (22.1) and minutes played (36.6), and he is second in rebounding (10.6) and assists (3.1).
"I didn't say a word about it," said Rivers, who is also the Clippers' vice president of basketball operations and has the last word on trades. "I just thought it was such a non-story."
When I post…. take it as me playing Chess fellas seriously
It seems like you haven't learn from our past failures and just want to repeat the past.
Who is Blake tho? He's a flopping softy who's not even liked by most of the league, protected and pushed by the NBA but really isn't all that.
Ask yourself this.
How far can a team go with Blake Griffin as their go to guy? Blake isn't even better than Elton Brand when Brand was a clipper.
Blake isn't a two way player, nor he's a player on Melo's calibur.
in the playoffs Blake can get exposed and he's horrible at interior defense. Blake is an actual PF so interior D is important where Melo is a perimeter player who has post skills.
Watch Blake get exposed for FREE by former Knick Zach Randolph
It's really not Melo's fault that the Knicks haven't been able to do anything with him...it's Amare's fault.
Signing Amare to that contract AFTER Phoenix chose not to because of his knees is the front office's fault.
Amare is the reason why the Knicks have been in salary cap hell.
We can't make any real roster changes. Amare has killed our roster flexibility.
I guess it's Melo's fault if you thought he was a LeBron, or KD, or CP3 level player, you thought wrong. He's a top 5-10 player which means he's a very good player that needs a decent amount of help if he's to lead his team to a title, and the Knicks just haven't given him that, because of Amare.
He did have an excellent situation in Denver(strong team with depth, young talent, won 50 games every season) that he forced his way out of though, which is his fault.
NY was clearly not a better situation than Denver, especially since NY gutted their team in order to acquire Melo.
He wanted NY because of the market and the spotlight.
Eventually...we had to know this would happen, we may have been blinded by the light of having a superstar on our team and believing we can contend with the best. The 2012-13 season a high and we're addicts looking for another shot. We won't get it anytime soon and it's time to start with reality.
Melo isn't the problem, but the plan was one of the worst ways to go about chasing a championship. Melo to NY was just for pure entertainment.
Melo could of been apart of a winning team in New York, but not via the trade with Denver where Knicks lose their future draft picks, cap space and best young players. This all started with Amare and it got worse from there. We were running on an injured ankle and this season that ankle complete gave out forever.
metro... good post... unfort amar'e aint amar'e any longer... never will be...and the pity is he is a hard worker n a heady player... unlike some others on the roster...
If Carmelo played in the late 70's/early 80's, he'd be considered an even greater player then Dr. J was
I don't really get how some of these dudes say their Knicks fans but their in here typing up essay's on why they hate Carmelo
I think he's shown alot of effort to become a better all around player. I don't have the exact numbers and I'm short on time but I'm almost 100% sure the following is all accurate
Career high rebounds
Career high offensive rebounds
Career high blocks
Career high FT%
Career low turnovers
How u wana win when your team plays no defence if you see how many space is between any payers from oppoentns and Knicks defenders
look @ Bargniani JR when he is playing there is +- even 3-5 metres space
Tyson STAT they dont play any d
look @ Pacers and Heat D this is man to man D they will send u to half court or even out of bounds
look @ Norris Cole he is young but good coached for D
i rememebr when Bulls passed Nets 4-3 in playffs then 1st game vs Heat 2nd round game broadcasted by TNT Steve Kerr 1st words
look @ Miaami Defence
Knicks are worst besides Shump and JR no one is playing D
so how do u expect that one elite player will win in such team
even Cavs Lebron era were better Ilgauskas many offensive rebs Shannon Brown they benn in playoffs when Knicks sux.