Bulls are 7-2 without Deng and Rose because Boozer, Bulter, Noah, Hinrich, Gibson, Augustin and Dunleavy is a strong supporting cast.
Why do you think Bulls were the favorite to beat Miami before Rose had this career ending injury? Bulls weren't just D-Rose and Deng, Bulls actually have a great center in Noah and two good PF's in Boozer and Gibson along with Augustin who's been playing great basketball this year after having 2-3 bad seasons as a back up PG.
You surround Melo around guys who can shoot (Hinrich, Dunleavy, Augustin) and guys who can defend and rebound (Gibson, Noah) you'll see Knicks going 7-2 also.
Melo is just another case where an elite MVP candidate player gets disrespected by the NBA franchise where they don't upgrade the roster and make it worse.
It happen to T-Mac
It happen to AI
Bad teams don't lose games because of their superstar. If 14 other guys aren't doing their job, you can't have your expectations too high.
Keep calling me slappy and I'm gonna show up at your front door and soul slap you, leaving a Melo jersey on your unconcious body.
Melo has done all the necessary things to bridge the gap on what a team lacks.
Being durable (leading the NBA in minutes)
What Kidd was for this last year wouldn't even come close to saving this year's team. You gotta be a fool to believe that. We have much bigger problem where most teams in the NBA have improved and surpassed us.
Leadership is an empty word and you have no meaning behind, you use it to discredit Melo because the majority of his all around game is too real for you to even dare debate about. It's cowardly and it's really all you're limited to. Melo's been a leader most of his career from Syracuse into Denver.
Speaking of DeRozan, didn't he had 41 points the other night? JR Smith last season career high was 37(bet you didn't even know that). You still think JR Smith of last year is better than DeRozan this year? lol payaso.
>>>>>>> Bargnani, Udrih.
World Peace and Martin haven't even been healthy enough to make a different.
Pablo doesn't get enough minutes and we play best when he starts(as last years shows).
If you think this teams supporting cast is better than last year, you're a fool.
He's never been a classy guy, he's not even that good to be on an NBA roster.
You hate people doing great when you're doing bad.
This article just proves how much of a ****ty supporting cast Melo has anyone that isn't named Hardaway, Shumpert, Prigioni and World Peace.
We know the players have given up on Woody......Its hard to play for a guy that has double standards and stands there like a moron blaming everyone but his "Chosen Players ". Maybe Melo is pro-Woody and that automatically throws him under the bus. ..............I cannot imagine players not having respect for Melo . No matter what he is out there play for 40 minutes a game and giving it his all.......Unfortunately for Melo no coach has been able to penetrate how much better he can us his " all "......................
Melo already has reached prime levels.
Not too many guys in the world can take LeBron 1 v 1 and give him competition. Not too many guys can dominate Durant.
When we don't have Melo and we're struggling as a team, people will be crying "Damn we don't have a Superstar to go against monsters like Durant and LeBron, we're hopeless"
Melo is everything we need at SF, we're blessed that he hasn't even demanded a trade yet.
Anyone who's Melo as a primary problem and everything wrong with this team is simply too monkey-minded to understand how bad this supporting cast is.
Why is it only Melo who has to change his game for the team? Melo's game has always lead teams to 50 win season.
JR Smith hasn't
Why can't they change?
What's so special about Amare, Chandler, Felton, Smith and Bargnani that they get to be the same players, but Melo can't?
What's wrong with a small forward playing power forward with good defense(post defense and fastbreak defense) while shooting 41% from 3pt and 85% from FT. A guy averaging 9 rebounds a game at 6"8, 3 assist from the PF position on a team that can't hit shots while being 2nd in the league in scoring?
Now that's a problem for a team to have?
I know young females in real life who can discuss sports better than you guys. This is comedy.
Melo's style wins.
Last year we won 54 games with Melo being our best player by far and people playing off him benefitting in every way possible.
This year, the only one giving effort is Melo, Hardaway and Prigioni. Even Shumpert has degressed from the foul play of Felton, Smith, Stat, Chandler and Bargnani.
In order to say Melo style doesn't win, Melo would have to have a career of seasons where his teams made the NBA lottery and missed the playoffs every year.
Like Curry/Crawford on the Knicks.
But they later on moved on to new teams and started tasting what it feels like to be on a winning squad.
Melo's playstyle is all win baby.
The team he's on has too much loss for Melo's playstyle to save them. Not even LeBron can save this team and anyone who thinks that is overrating this roster desperately because they have personal hatred for Carmelo. Fake Knick fans.
It's a fake weak passive aggressive compliment.
You don't have the balls to admit what Melo does for the team and you pad him as a Jerry Stackhouse type individual stat padder.
How can teammates have problems with Melo's style of play when they don't move without the ball themselves or try to get themselves open, and when they have the ball, they try to play iso-ball and it fails 90% of the time?
These teammates hold no weight to even have an opinion on what should the team do until they level up their play and contribute to winning.
For you to even try defending them makes you a failure as a Knickerbocker fan.
I'm going to quote an article to educate you and help you understand that Melo isolation is basically the best option we have until we get better players who can hit open jumpshots and get to the free throwline by themselves.
Carmelo Anthony Specialty Moves
Within these general categories are a few go-to moves upon which Anthony sometimes relies - the most common of which is the right shoulder fadeaway:
This past season, he made 37 of 65 such shots (56.9%). Yes, the shot appearsterrible. But Anthony is an unbelievable player, so it's no surprise that one of the most difficult shots in the game actually produces quality results for him.
His other specialty moves are even more effective, though in much smaller samples.
Here's the quick spin baseline from the post:
One dribble baseline, quick spin middle:
Hesitation dribble + pull-up head fake, then drive. He often uses this move against slower big men.
Melo's team play has been great.
As been good as anyone can do.
His teammates need to elevate themselves before anyone can.
You're 100% wrong again.
Melo happen to be our owner Dolan's Franchise Goldenboy.
Which gives Melo the power to have HC Woodson FIRED in two seconds.
Melo's decent stats are from averaging 40 minutes per game in 39 games, receiving 21 fga on 43% shooting.
1) Melo plays all of the first quarter (ball-hogger as PG).
2) Melo plays 10 minutes of the 2nd quarter (ball-hogger as PG).
3) Melo plays all of the 3rd quarter (ball-hogger as PG).
All those minutes (30) in just 3 quarters could fullfill any STAR-players stat sheet, especially when they keep taking the ball out of the PG hands to play ISO-Melo jump-shot. But at the end of the day its all about the WINS .. Which the headcoach gets all the blame when the Losses double the wins .. for letting a star-player (not a super-star) play in every "lineup" throughout 4 quarters in a LOSSing season.
What makes a super-star .. is when he have one or two teammates playing on the same-page for 35 minute per game like ..
Duncan, Ginobli, Parker .. 3 players talent that compliments 8 other teamates to make a 11 man rotation throughout season
Lets talk about our Knicks 4th qtr. performance ....
Melo's 4th qtr. performance are when our oponents play Melo hard for the WIN,
what do Melo do?
Melo looks towards his teammates he been Ball-hoggin the ball from for 3 quarters of the game .. to become creative for the win.
So people (fans) could give the Game-Win to Melo for the 20 something points he scored the first 3 quarters of the game.
Melo's 4th quarter fg percentage is down to 28% to 35% shooting ....
Melo's always LOOKING for the foul in the 4th quarter ..
And this season the NBA league havnt been giving ANY of the star-player or super-star players that call in the 4th qtr..
Teams now have the option in the final 2 minutes to reveal a FLOP by the camera.
PS .. one day I may mention how to use Melo on a contender team?
Right now, Melo dig himself to deep in a hole to get out of with teammates, and ex-teammates (rumors) to stay in New York.
Jason Kidd knows how to beat the ISO-Melo system 10-1 now.
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I did not realize you are now a shrink as well......Nothing fake or passive.
I think Melo is a great individual player.......I do not believe he plays to run up his stats.....
Do you honestly think if we were winning and Melo was averaging 30 minutes a game and 16 points he would be happy ?
First and formost Melo wants to be what he knows himself to be and thats a star player. I agree he is.
The Greater sum is more important then its parts. I do not think Melo sees it that way.......
You reach when you go to Jerry Stackhouse.
You are so hung up on putting melo on such a pedastal that yuou never see his weaknesses........
So many times I hear well if Melo does not score then who does ????
how many points do we average when Melo sits versus what we give up ? This # alone should answer your question......I dont have the time to look it up but I am sure if the number works against Melo u will not either ,,,,,if its in favor of Melo u will surly find it....
I will say it again....I think Melo with a Phil Jackson or a Chris Paul would be a much better team player then he is today.....They would show him to do the things he does not do that he is more then capable of doing.......Melo's 4th quarters blow because he is wiped out from 3 quarters of Iso ball.....
It's another reason to consider trading him. Think about it, Melo is busting his ass putting up career numbers and playing 40 minutes a game and this is the appreciation he gets. It would burn me and I wouldn't be sticking around in FA.
I could care less of Melo's individual accomplishments and get this....you nor anyone else cared about what he was doing in this league on a personal level before we acquired him. Even with his acquisition I could care less what he did for Denver or what he did in Syracuse. Last time I checked neither one of those teams are the New York Knicks. For crying out loud Raymond Felton has an NCAA champion and I don't hear anyone bringing up his Carolina linage and success there in effort to make excuses for his failures of today.
How did Evelyn Lozado put it?
MELO IS A MUTHA EFFIN NON-FACTOR
Pre Melo yeah maybe 1 too many dumb New Yorkers were thinking this way about Superstar acquisitions.... but anyone with a brain knows putting a team full of stars together is rather fictitious at best.
Go look at the history of the game. Go look back if your cabbage is working at all and ask yourself besides the Pistons of all the teams that won a chip how did they acquire their CORE star(s)? Don't say the Celtics because they drafted Pierce and Rondo. Don't say Lakers they got Shaq via Free Agency(a chance we supposedly had because remember Melo wanted to play for us right?)....oh that's right I'm forgetting 1 small footnote....Melo also wanted his scrilla resolved before the new CBA kicked in.
The whole point is when you acquire someone else's main prize via trade in their prime, it becomes that much more difficult to win it all. Especially when you have no assets in the cut. It strips you of the ability to move forward in paramount. The only 2 teams that may buck this trend is...(Clippers/Rockets) as things currently stand. Even then, the Clippers can be eliminated somewhat because they acquired Blake((CORE) star)) and to a smaller degree Jordan((CORE) mini star)) via the draft.........(organically).
The price paid for Melo was too steep, too rich...For 2 reasons...1 I already mentioned we had small rations, sparse assets and 2 most importantly Melo is not Lebron or Durant doesn't matter what their games of head-to-head say, which can be likened to horse. Let me ask you, since Melo almost equals Lebron in your eyes what would we have offered Denver say Lebron made the demand to be traded here?
Therefore with such astronomical price paid, comes astronomical expectations. Your expectations are low scummy dross level low.
I also find this comical too because when 2010 was approaching I heard not 1 New York fan say...."Hey preserve 2011-2012 cap space and pair Lebron with Melo"....nope! Everyone thought if Lebron came, no matter who was on that team even if it was a team full of Ared Effries we were CONTENDERS, primed to win it all. Why? Because Lebron is that guy.
Here's a doosy for ya.....Dallas didn't have a guy with a better head-to-head than James but Dirk waxed them cakes in the Finals. The reason.....helps to draft your own (CORE) guy and construct a team full of very good players in the 3 tier area of stardome and other serviceable role players.
Dollars to Donuts not 1 GM in this league, not even the ones we've had the past 20yrs builds a team based on head-to-head matchups at any given position. Not 1, not even a make believe GM.......Laugh Out Loud, Hardy Har-Har-Har, Snicker Diddly Doodle Doo.... I Pity The Foo You....MELTRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's what we do know...this story came out right after Tyson questioned Woodson's defensive schemes and right as the media was wanting Woodson to meet this supposed veiled usurping challenge via questioning. Woodson told the media he had a talk with Tyson but guess what Melo somewhat threw a shot out there too in regards to scheme but his focus was (offense scheme) getting him the ball against the Pacers.
Very peculiar Woodson did not mention having a talk with Melo. You don't think Tyson caught the elephant dung from Woodson there?
As Woodson was preparing to address the media...Tyson was spotted having lunch with Steve Mills.
My guess, it's Tyson.... or the player who originally called out how we run our offense early in the season....Amar'e.
Last edited by Broadway; Jan 24, 2014 at 16:18.
It's probably the very reason Woodson hasn't been fired yet. If Woodson is fired, the organization will be in a tizzy overly concerned with finding a coach who'll let Melo have the lions share, first and second helpings, before others are even called to the table to eat.