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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Stat is still one of the dangerous bigmen in the game when he receive the ball 10 feet from the basket.
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    come now.. I like stat..alot... but bad knees have done him in.. he's playing good rite now... but... he's one sneeze away from disaster...

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    Why is it so crazy for Ainge to want STAT in a trade?

    If they're moving Wallace's contract at $10M and Rondo at $12M...that's $22 million...

    Bring in STAT's $21 million, and you can amnesty $21-$23 million right off of the books...

    This is the NBA..not NBA 2K. Boston has the picks from Brooklyn, and if they can get more young pieces, and damn near a third off the salary cap off of their books in one felt swoop...they're gonna at least consider it.

    Too often, people are looking at the game from a "on-the-court" standpoint, and their opinions are based on half the info.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Why is it so crazy for Ainge to want STAT in a trade?

    If they're moving Wallace's contract at $10M and Rondo at $12M...that's $22 million...

    Bring in STAT's $21 million, and you can amnesty $21-$23 million right off of the books...

    This is the NBA..not NBA 2K. Boston has the picks from Brooklyn, and if they can get more young pieces, and damn near a third off the salary cap off of their books in one felt swoop...they're gonna at least consider it.

    Too often, people are looking at the game from a "on-the-court" standpoint, and their opinions are based on half the info.
    Stat's contract has been called the worst in the NBA, one of the reasons is if you can find a team that still has their amnesty they still have to pay him 30M if he's traded by the deadline, it's a lot of money. Nobody wants Stat, maybe he's traded next year as an expiring but more than likely he finishes out his contract with the Knicks.

    Unless Ainge thinks Rondo is done why would he trade him to an arch rival like the Knicks. Trade your best player in the prime of his career to come back and burn you in a critical playoff game, that's why GM's prefer trading their stars to the another conference.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Why is it so crazy for Ainge to want STAT in a trade?

    If they're moving Wallace's contract at $10M and Rondo at $12M...that's $22 million...

    Bring in STAT's $21 million, and you can amnesty $21-$23 million right off of the books...

    This is the NBA..not NBA 2K. Boston has the picks from Brooklyn, and if they can get more young pieces, and damn near a third off the salary cap off of their books in one felt swoop...they're gonna at least consider it.

    Too often, people are looking at the game from a "on-the-court" standpoint, and their opinions are based on half the info.
    Amnesty means it's off cap but u still pay. Boston at this point could amnesty Wallace and keep rondo. Am I missing something. Why does star need to be involved.

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    I gotta give Ainge his props, hes done a good job. Yea his buddy Mchale mighta helped him out with the KG trade but he got rid of Perkins at the right time. People criticized him for not resigning Posey after 08 finals but Posey wanted alotta money and fell off quicker then Big Mac toppings.

    Overall hes done a good job in the drafts getting players like Bradley, Sullinger...

    He traded KG and Pierce at the perfect time, has stockpiled draftpicks...hes done everything I wish the Knicks woulda done at some point during the last decade and a half.

    I dont believe he'd go for the Amare and Timmy package but I see nothing wrong with anyone thinking that, in this case NYKnicks17. Thats a respectable opinion on his part, He who has to accuse someone of smoking crack is probably not as confident in their opinions as they seem

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Why is it so crazy for Ainge to want STAT in a trade?

    If they're moving Wallace's contract at $10M and Rondo at $12M...that's $22 million...

    Bring in STAT's $21 million, and you can amnesty $21-$23 million right off of the books...

    This is the NBA..not NBA 2K. Boston has the picks from Brooklyn, and if they can get more young pieces, and damn near a third off the salary cap off of their books in one felt swoop...they're gonna at least consider it.

    Too often, people are looking at the game from a "on-the-court" standpoint, and their opinions are based on half the info.
    Those are all great words and all, but you can't trade for someone and then amnesty them. The amnesty is only for players who are playing for the team they played for when the amnesty clause was brought into effect and are still on the same contract.

    Boston cannot amnesty STAT nor can they amnesty Wallace as someone else suggested. Their two eligible players are Bradley and Rondo.

    "Too often, people's opinions are based on half the info."

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    Originally Posted by paris401
    come now.. I like stat..alot... he's one sneeze away from disaster...
    so sad, so true, quite funny monsieur.

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    Originally Posted by smokes
    Those are all great words and all, but you can't trade for someone and then amnesty them. The amnesty is only for players who are playing for the team they played for when the amnesty clause was brought into effect and are still on the same contract.

    Boston cannot amnesty STAT nor can they amnesty Wallace as someone else suggested. Their two eligible players are Bradley and Rondo.

    "Too often, people's opinions are based on half the info."
    Not sure that's true Smokes, we amnestied Billups after trading for him. Got to look up that amnesty rule to see why.

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    Smokes is correct. It's the date of 7/1/2011 that's key. Most teams have already used their amnesty but Boston is one of the remaining and while Wallace can't be amnestied Rondo can.

    "The basic notion of the amnesty provision of the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement is simple: Every team can waive one player and remove his contract value from the salary cap during a one-week window that coincides with the beginning of free agency, provided that player signed with the team before July 1, 2011. It’s a fully sanctioned mulligan in a league where mistakes are costly and rampant, and thus seen as a way out for cap-strapped teams that have few other alternatives."

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Smokes is correct. It's the date of 7/1/2011 that's key. Most teams have already used their amnesty but Boston is one of the remaining and while Wallace can't be amnestied Rondo can.

    "The basic notion of the amnesty provision of the NBAs collective bargaining agreement is simple: Every team can waive one player and remove his contract value from the salary cap during a one-week window that coincides with the beginning of free agency, provided that player signed with the team before July 1, 2011. Its a fully sanctioned mulligan in a league where mistakes are costly and rampant, and thus seen as a way out for cap-strapped teams that have few other alternatives."

    Still hard to believe we picked up Billups options for 12 million only to amnesty him .

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Still hard to believe we picked up Billups options for 12 million only to amnesty him .
    no wonder my cable rates keep rising...

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Why is it so crazy for Ainge to want STAT in a trade?

    If they're moving Wallace's contract at $10M and Rondo at $12M...that's $22 million...

    Bring in STAT's $21 million, and you can amnesty $21-$23 million right off of the books...

    This is the NBA..not NBA 2K. Boston has the picks from Brooklyn, and if they can get more young pieces, and damn near a third off the salary cap off of their books in one felt swoop...they're gonna at least consider it.

    Too often, people are looking at the game from a "on-the-court" standpoint, and their opinions are based on half the info.
    teams can only amnesty players they have from before the new cba agreement, not for players they acquire after

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    I never understood Knicks GM Glen Grunwald the day after the court decision was made that Novak & Lin were Restricted-Free-Agents. Grunwald personally had a press conference set up just to say, "We will let Novak & Lin test the FA market". What team does that? Especially when ....
    Jeremy Lin's Knicks jersey was selling-out world-wide, plus Lin's name was selling-out our opponents stadiums east n west.
    What NBA team would give up a player that match Lebron James & Kobe world wide $$$ fan-base?
    When Lin did not sign or respond to Houston Rockets FIRST offer-sheet in two weeks, wasn't that the time for Grunwald to have a meeting with Lin? The Rockets had to give Lin 3 times his worth in the final season of a 3 year contract for Lin to sign.
    the loss of Linsanity in a nutshell

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    the loss of Linsanity in a nutshell

    I guess when Woody's butt buddy JR said " if Lin signs a huge contract of course that will cause an issue in the locker room " was enough for the Knicks to let him go....after all why keep LIN when we have Felton.

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