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    The Starks dunk was even better than the 4 pt. play or the shot in my opinion anyway.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    That was the shot that got Allan Houston a $100M contract ....
    Miami Heat was suppose to get the RINGS that season.

    The trio-guards of "Childs/Houston/Spree" were the best trio-guard unit in the NBA that season ..
    Why the Knicks traded PG-Childs in the offseason?
    Why the Knicks didnt select Ron Artest in the draft?
    Why the Knicks over-paid Allan Houston in the offseason?
    Why the Knicks hired a Utah farm-boy to be President of the big-city Knicks?
    Why the Knicks traded Ewing at the end of the offseason?
    The Knicks biggest why why why offseason that lead the Knicks to be a decade LOSER team.
    Dolan shouldve never FIRED GM Ernie Grunfield over HC JVG.
    +1 I agree with this entire post...Weiss over Artest??? Um um um

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    So what do we need now, all wins and Atlanta to lose 4-5 games....next season guys

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    Originally Posted by petescud
    So what do we need now, all wins and Atlanta to lose 4-5 games....next season guys
    Watch ATL lose to Boston and Detroit and give the Knicks some hope before Friday's game.

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    That would be nice...hope it happens

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Watch ATL lose to Boston and Detroit and give the Knicks some hope before Friday's game.
    We're more likely to lose against Chicago and Raptors than the above scenario as we haven't beat the Raptors this season scoffing at trading for Kyle Lowry(boy did that backfire on us) and Chicago has pretty much owned us for the past 3yrs. I think we've only beaten them 2 times in the past 3 seasons and both teams are at the top of their games.

    I can see us mailing that game in come Friday with exception to maybe J.R. continuing his hot stretch.

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    Well once we're eliminated Phil should have Woody play the D Leaguers as much as possible to see if any are worth keeping for next season

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    Originally Posted by petescud
    Well once we're eliminated Phil should have Woody play the D Leaguers as much as possible to see if any are worth keeping for next season
    This is a process that should have started like after the first 40gms. We should have quietly brought Phil on as an advisor/scout back when they first touched down. Then hired him in the summer to have the position that he has now. You don't wait until 3-4gms left of a season or 20 for the matter who are playing under "Fear Factor and/or Small Sample Size" to evaluate.

    We effed up the last time doing this when we hired Donnie Walsh almost around the same time to eval. He didn't quite have a good feel under such a small sample of games. So what did he do during the off-season he wanted to bring everyone back and give them a clean slate.

    What would Murray, Aldrich, Tyler show last 3gms that would tilt the scales in their favor of keeping them? I think we already know what we have in them and where their place is, if at all on this team. Had we done what I suggested, we could have already started our model of player profiling. Combing the league nationally and abroad.... therefore giving ourselves a leg up in the off-season where we very well may have to do likewise to fill out this team. Of course we do everything in bassackwards fashon causing a trickle down setback as time goes by.

    If we really wanted to make the playoffs, we should have made the trades to do so....knowing Phil was coming aboard and let him figure out how to tweak things in the off-season.

    If rumored reports are true Phil was somewhat advising the team this season(as alluded to his type of role before official hire) and he was behind rebuffing some of these trades primarily because of his affinity with Shumpert and concern over pick, then I'm officially uncontrollable shaky nervous in confidence Phil will turn this around. When looking at the Kyle Lowry trade the pick they wanted wasn't until 2018.....ummmm that pick was totally inconsequential with our desire to be very relevant well before that time. We could have made other trades too, like Beno for Jordan Hamilton(who is just as good as any other young talent we have on our team). So where was Phil on this eff up....or the Faried rumors or the Andre Miller rumors...so Phil was MIA on those but counseled heavily on the Raptor and Clippers/OKC deals?

    You see from what I posted.... even with Phil here we have so many issues and hurdles to clear it's not funny.

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    Originally Posted by 3G4G
    We're more likely to lose against Chicago and Raptors than the above scenario as we haven't beat the Raptors this season scoffing at trading for Kyle Lowry(boy did that backfire on us) and Chicago has pretty much owned us for the past 3yrs. I think we've only beaten them 2 times in the past 3 seasons and both teams are at the top of their games.

    I can see us mailing that game in come Friday with exception to maybe J.R. continuing his hot stretch.
    ESPN had it right. Gave the Knicks a 7% chance to make the playoffs, ATL 88% based on their remaining schedules. Any combination of Knicks losses and ATL wins = to 3 and ATL is in, seems hopeless for the Knicks to make it.

    I thought Woody would be fired regardless of whether he made the playoffs or not but it makes it easier for PJ to go in a different direction than Woody if the boys don't make it. Not thrilled with the idea of Steve Kerr though.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    ESPN had it right. Gave the Knicks a 7% chance to make the playoffs, ATL 88% based on their remaining schedules. Any combination of Knicks losses and ATL wins = to 3 and ATL is in, seems hopeless for the Knicks to make it.

    I thought Woody would be fired regardless of whether he made the playoffs or not but it makes it easier for PJ to go in a different direction than Woody if the boys don't make it. Not thrilled with the idea of Steve Kerr though.
    Is Steve Kerr more Jeff Hornacek....Mar Jackson....Frank Vogel or is he more Ty Corbin...Keith Smart....Jacque Vaughn

    No matter who we bring in I just want to end the foolish sale of "we're a ream to be reckoned with".... in the here and right now. Let's do this the right way, with a complete rebuild. Let's see this take place once and for all, then allow judgement of processes we've endured over the yrs.
    Last edited by 3G4G; Apr 08, 2014 at 19:43.

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    Originally Posted by 3G4G
    Is Steve Kerr more Jeff Hornacek....Mar Jackson....Frank Vogel or is he more Ty Corbin...Keith Smart....Jacque Vaughn
    Who knows he never coached a lick anywhere which is my problem with him. He's a bright guy and he'll interview very well so he might get the job based on his interview but please we already have PJ with no experience and they may bring in a newbie coach? Why is my gut telling me that's a typical Knick disaster.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Who knows he never coached a lick anywhere which is my problem with him. He's a bright guy and he'll interview very well so he might get the job based on his interview but please we already have PJ with no experience and they may bring in a newbie coach? Why is my gut telling me that's a typical Knick disaster.

    Well Kidd didn't coach at all neither did Mark Jackson...of course were both high caliber point guards which is like having a coach on the floor, who knows.

    There are a few coaches I'd want before Kerr that's for sure.

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    Well, at least ATL lost tonight to Detroit...we're still alive

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    Originally Posted by petescud
    Well, at least ATL lost tonight to Detroit...we're still alive
    The problem is the Knicks winning games against teams headed for the playoffs who are trying to improve their seed and getting home court. They won't be resting their starters or trying to coast into the playoffs.

    Melo has 4 days for his shoulder to get better, we'll need to see the best of Melo to have a chance.

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    oh yeah, usually you catch a break at the end of the year with some teams, not in our case...a little too late...we need a miracle now

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