Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 34

Thread: Mike Woodson FIRED, 5 days after season end.

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    6,980
    Rep Power
    18

    Default Mike Woodson FIRED, 5 days after season end.

    New team president Phil Jackson wasted little time making a widely anticipated coaching change, dropping the ax on Woodson Monday, just days after the Knicks’ disastrous season mercifully ended on Wednesday without a playoff berth for the first time since 2010.

    Woodson, 56, finishes his two-plus seasons as the team’s head coach with a record of 109-79, but the disappointment of a 37-45 mark this year — for a team owner James Dolan believed was a championship contender — proved too much for him to overcome.
    His entire coaching staff was also let go

  2. #2
    Moderator
    CoolClyde's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Bronx
    Posts
    2,479
    Rep Power
    20

    Default

    good start to the off-season.

    later tater!

  3. #3
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    854
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    New team president Phil Jackson wasted little time making a widely anticipated coaching change, dropping the ax on Woodson Monday, just days after the Knicks’ disastrous season mercifully ended on Wednesday without a playoff berth for the first time since 2010.

    Woodson, 56, finishes his two-plus seasons as the team’s head coach with a record of 109-79, but the disappointment of a 37-45 mark this year — for a team owner James Dolan believed was a championship contender — proved too much for him to overcome.
    His entire coaching staff was also let go

    Reverting back to the other thread

    “To be honest with you, Mike Woodson and me have become, he’s been a guy that I can talk to, almost a father figure, a friend, a guy that I can bounce stuff off,” an emotional Anthony said on Thursday. “I’ve been a guy he’s talked to multiple times, about multiple things in different situations.

    So when that time comes, if it’s ready for me to step up and take that next step and say, ‘OK, Mike Woodson needs to stay or go . . .’ I don’t think it would come down to that, but I would back him.


    “If he needs my recommendation whether it’s here or anywhere else, I’ll back him. I have nothing bad to say about Mike Woodson. I support him. For me as a player, I had some of my best years under Mike Woodson. So I would never have anything bad to say about Mike Woodson.”

    Well Phil didn't think it would come down to that at all....lol

    Matter of fact it doesn't appear it was even an option to consult Melo or anyone else for the matter. Probably won't consult anyone on the coaching hire either. Not thrilled in bringing in Steve Kerr just judging him off of some of his GM moves, but I wouldn't mind if he was part of an overall decision making process working in conjunction with Phil as an exec(not a coach). Maybe assistant GM or player personnel director. Not sure how I feel about forcing the Triangle offense into this organization I mean it's not like it's a widely ran system league-wide and we've only seen it work when the best players in the league are running it. I do like the fact Phil is giving folks DAT WORK though, he's getting busy. Hopefully he blowtorches everything else roster-wise to a charred smelting crisp.

  4. #4
    Veteran petescud's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,815
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    I like that he got rid of all the coaches. Lets face it Herb was just there for a paycheck. I hope he blows up half our team too

  5. #5
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,626
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Mills should have done this mid-season, maybe the coaching change would have lit a fire under these guys earlier and the Knicks wouldn't have missed the playoffs.

    Foregone conclusion for Woody but who does Jackson bring in? If Jeff Van Gundy dropped a note to Phil saying he was interested PJ should sign him up in a heartbeat. Kerr seems like a smart guy but he comes across as to nice to be a head coach.

  6. #6
    Member gmf1369's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    364
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    well goodbye Woodson, writing was on the wall < not a P.J. type of guy...

  7. #7
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,626
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Just reading the Newsday article about possible replacements.

    Kerr
    Fisher
    Rambis
    Clemons
    Shaw
    Van Gundy

    You have got to be crazy not to think Van Gundy isn't the best of that bunch.

  8. #8
    Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    6,980
    Rep Power
    18

    Default

    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Just reading the Newsday article about possible replacements.

    Kerr
    Fisher
    Rambis
    Clemons
    Shaw
    Van Gundy

    You have got to be crazy not to think Van Gundy isn't the best of that bunch.


    Steve Kerr is the best of that bunch by a long mile ..
    Steve Kerr learned the hard way as a GM with Rookie of the year Amare Stoudemire. And letting a puppet assistant coach Mike Dantoni get to much fame from Steve Kerr getting rid of the Phoenix Suns individual players Marbury & Penny slow balling poor defensive talent in 2003-4 season, to let their highest paid player Shawn Marion leadership run and control the Phoenix Suns roster (The Matrix got the SSOL system from Jason Kidd, and used that system with Steve Nash & Amare to have a few successful seasons.).
    Mike Dantoni refusal to bring in assistant coach Thibideu in the 2007 offseason, had the owner of the Phoenix Suns trade Shawn Marion for Franchise Player Shaq on the February 2008 trade deadline, which put Kerr's GM job in jeopardy.

    What we get in Steve Kerr is a GM/Coach who played the Triangle-system and won, plus defended against the Triangle-system and won.

  9. #9
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    854
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Steve Kerr is the best of that bunch by a long mile ..
    Steve Kerr learned the hard way as a GM with Rookie of the year Amare Stoudemire. And letting a puppet assistant coach Mike Dantoni get to much fame from Steve Kerr getting rid of the Phoenix Suns individual players Marbury & Penny slow balling poor defensive talent in 2003-4 season, to let their highest paid player Shawn Marion leadership run and control the Phoenix Suns roster (The Matrix got the SSOL system from Jason Kidd, and used that system with Steve Nash & Amare to have a few successful seasons.).
    Mike Dantoni refusal to bring in assistant coach Thibideu in the 2007 offseason, had the owner of the Phoenix Suns trade Shawn Marion for Franchise Player Shaq on the February 2008 trade deadline, which put Kerr's GM job in jeopardy.

    What we get in Steve Kerr is a GM/Coach who played the Triangle-system and won, plus defended against the Triangle-system and won.

    Disagree and it seems like you're running things together here not distinguishing when Steve took over. I mean let's keep it real. Steve Kerr was brought into the Suns organization to essentially do what Phil intends to do for us. Yet Kerr failed and bailed as soon as he saw Phx couldn't win a chip with Nash and didn't want to be a part of rebuilding the Suns.

  10. #10
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,626
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Steve Kerr is the best of that bunch by a long mile ..
    Steve Kerr learned the hard way as a GM with Rookie of the year Amare Stoudemire. And letting a puppet assistant coach Mike Dantoni get to much fame from Steve Kerr getting rid of the Phoenix Suns individual players Marbury & Penny slow balling poor defensive talent in 2003-4 season, to let their highest paid player Shawn Marion leadership run and control the Phoenix Suns roster (The Matrix got the SSOL system from Jason Kidd, and used that system with Steve Nash & Amare to have a few successful seasons.).
    Mike Dantoni refusal to bring in assistant coach Thibideu in the 2007 offseason, had the owner of the Phoenix Suns trade Shawn Marion for Franchise Player Shaq on the February 2008 trade deadline, which put Kerr's GM job in jeopardy.

    What we get in Steve Kerr is a GM/Coach who played the Triangle-system and won, plus defended against the Triangle-system and won.
    Amare was drafted in by the Suns in 2002. Kerr became GM and President of the Suns in 2007 so what are you talking about. His stint as GM was less than successful getting to the first round once during his tenure as a GM. He said he didn't enjoy being a GM after 3 years and went back to broadcasting. what makes you think he doesn't pull that I didn't enjoy NY or coaching crap if he becomes the Knicks coach. I see media reports already that he's a west coast guy and he's wary about the Knicks management (Dolan). Give me JVG any day over a soft Steve Kerr.

  11. #11
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    854
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Amare was drafted in by the Suns in 2002. Kerr became GM and President of the Suns in 2007 so what are you talking about. His stint as GM was less than successful getting to the first round once during his tenure as a GM. He said he didn't enjoy being a GM after 3 years and went back to broadcasting. what makes you think he doesn't pull that I didn't enjoy NY or coaching crap if he becomes the Knicks coach. I see media reports already that he's a west coast guy and he's wary about the Knicks management (Dolan). Give me JVG any day over a soft Steve Kerr.

    Yeah you and I pretty much agree here.

    I found it odd too with the personalities he had there when he took over he hired Terry Porter to coach them. Not that Porter is a bad coach but how could he not gauge what style of play would suit them best especially when he had an idea to bring in Shaq. He made some suspect moves during his time there and I feel being GM is close to being a coach. I mean that person is supposed to help put goods in the cupboards for the coach to cook up, therefore he should know what a coach wants and how he plans to execute it.

    Kerr is alright but doesn't excite me, very much like the Odom signing doesn't.

  12. #12
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    2,626
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    He came in with the idea that what the Suns needed to get to the next level was to get rid of that SSOL D'Antoni style of play and play defense which is why he brought in Terry Porter.

    Kerr is the type of guy that thinks he's entitled wanting to take top level jobs like President and GM or head coach of the Knicks without any experience.

    I'm surprised Jackson would consider hiring him despite the fact they're friends because PJ put in 5 hard years learning coaching in the CBA with the Albany Patroons. I would think that experience knocking around the minor leagues of bball would give a guy like PJ a distrust of people like Kerr that want to start out at the top.

  13. #13
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    854
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    He came in with the idea that what the Suns needed to get to the next level was to get rid of that SSOL D'Antoni style of play and play defense which is why he brought in Terry Porter.

    Kerr is the type of guy that thinks he's entitled wanting to take top level jobs like President and GM or head coach of the Knicks without any experience.

    I'm surprised Jackson would consider hiring him despite the fact they're friends because PJ put in 5 hard years learning coaching in the CBA with the Albany Patroons. I would think that experience knocking around the minor leagues of bball would give a guy like PJ a distrust of people like Kerr that want to start out at the top.
    Very true and I didn't disagree with his philosophy(feeling that's what it would take to win a championship) on the matter but he should have done a better job executing, reshaping the team... to accomplish that. He failed doing so and bailed, in particular when the going got tough looking towards the transition yrs. He knew Sarver was going to cut back starting rebuild. His excuse, he needed to spend more time with his family yet went right back into broadcasting...

    Kerr has some red flags


    EDIT: Misheard.....Kerr wasn't ready to coach at that time(Seattle Group purchase of Kings) but apparently he must have left the door open because Phil is interested in peaking his interest again.
    Last edited by 3G4G; Apr 23, 2014 at 17:11.

  14. #14
    Member gmf1369's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    364
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    honestly of those would love to have Van Gundy back but something tells me it will be between Kerr, & Fisher...

  15. #15
    Moderator
    CoolClyde's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Bronx
    Posts
    2,479
    Rep Power
    20

    Default

    i'm good with Kerr for a variety of reasons:
    -he's currently an analyst who has a very good knowledge of the game, and ALL the teams and players.
    -he played for PJ for years, knows the triangle offense and the basic principles of O&D.
    -he'll be a first time coach, and moldable towards the Phil Jackson style of play, as if he isn't already made in that mold and cut from the same cloth.
    -he's a former 3-point specialist, someone who will bode well for THJR to help become a complete player.
    -he's smart
    -former champion with Jackson-Bulls (3X) AND Popovich-Spurs (2X)
    Last edited by CoolClyde; Apr 21, 2014 at 17:20.

Similar Threads

  1. Why Woodson hasnt been FIRED?
    By Kiyaman in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: Mar 08, 2014, 02:43
  2. Woodson can b fired day2day
    By bigapple in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: Dec 27, 2013, 16:47
  3. Replies: 7
    Last Post: Dec 11, 2013, 18:08
  4. Replies: 42
    Last Post: Mar 12, 2013, 11:26
  5. When will Mike D get fired?
    By Paul1355 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: Nov 15, 2010, 10:46

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •