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Thread: GAME THREAD: NYK VS. GS 3/6/05, 7:30 (W 115-99)

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    thanks for the head up, i just took a glance at that pic, well, more to mo's haircut which looks like allan's

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    remember in 99 when we had Spree and Camby coming off the bench. they provided instant energy/offense.

    Mo Taylor fits into that role, while he is not the speed or energy or Spree or Camby, he does provide serious offensive game.

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    yeah, if Mo keeps his strong offensive play... Isiah may make some room for him, however i would take Malik Rose over him any given day of my life. That was a nice 7/8 from the field performance however, but i get the feeling that wont be happening too much

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    Remember GStates, defense is crap. There like 28th in the league in everything. And the knicks knew that so they came out with instant confidence. Were gonna have to come out with that same confidence when playing good teams like Washington, Seattle and Miami. If we win these three games, I think we're definitely making the playoffs.

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    ive said this many times before, but:

    isnt it better to accept defeat and have one or two really bad seasons and then become a really good team? or would everyone rather just have every season for the next 4 or 5 years just be mediocre? if isiah was smart, he would have unloaded the roster at the beginning of the season when the knicks were at the top of the division, gotten rid of allan houstons contract one or two games after he came back, and basically unloaded the entire payroll and gotten rid of every contract except the rookies, such as sweetney and ariza. and i think he really could have done it at that time. now, its probably much harder, especially since hes taken on even more bad contracts. maybe we could have gotten a couple of draft picks out of our unloading, gotten 3 draft picks in teh first rd this year, tanked as a team, and gotten a. bogut, petro and warrick in the draft. and all of a sudden, we would have a great core of young players for next year.

    INSTEAD WE ARE IN A STATE OF ENDLESS ****ING MISERY. ALL THESE IGNORANT OPTIMISTS WHO THINK ISIAH IS DOING A GOOD JOB AND ACTUALLY HTINK THE KNICKS CAN WIN ARE RETARDED. AND MAYBE IM CRAZY AND AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE THIS, BUT WE SUCK. AND NOT ONLY DO WE SUCK THIS YEAR, WITH THE WAY OUR PAYROLL IS, WE WILL SUCK FOR MANY YEARS TO COME UNLESS WE CAN SOMEHOW GET LUCKY AND FIND A SUPERSTAR IN THE DRAFT, WHICH WONT BE THAT LIKELY BECAUSE THE TEAM WILL PROBABLY BARELY MISS THE PLAYOFFS AND NOT GET A GREAT PICK.

    doesn't isiah's trades piss anybody else off? doesnt the fact that we could have had webber AND carter this year (possibly) piss anybody else off?

    so many people just seem so happy-go-lucky and get so excited if the knicks win a game or two here or there and all of a sudden get excited and think the knicks can actually make the playoffs and be a good team. i guess im just a pessimist then.

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    Default you make a good point, but....

    You make a good point that we should go ahead and bite the bullet and be a really good team in two years.

    How do you go ahead and bite the bullet, and even if yo can there are no guarantees. Look at some teams that have gone the rebuild route;
    Orlando - they have been good but not great.
    Chicago - has been a disaster.
    Denver - they have improved but are not yet a championship caliber team.

    What kind of moves would you have in mind?????

    Sure I could see us buy out Houston and in two years his money will come off the cap. I could see us buy out Penny or let his deal expire at the end of next year and let the money come off the cap. Same with Tim Thomas.
    The problem is that even if those four three were off the books taking no salary in return we would still be over $20MM over the cap, and not fully at that number for more than two years.
    The diea of trading these guys for draft picks, most teams would need to send us back salary as well.

    so how do we bit the bullet?

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    Originally Posted by a knick fan
    doesn't isiah's trades piss anybody else off?
    yeah, personally, i hate all those first round draft picks he just got.. damn him! now we can get a big guy in the draft, (everyone knows he is trying to rebuild through the draft) now we can have someone like Johan Petro, which is just what we need.

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    who has a more promising future? ny or chicago? ny or denver? ny or orlando? wouldnt u rather be a fan of any of those other teams - because at least they have a realistic chance of getting better over the next few years.

    how exactly would we unload the roster? i cant get into specifics, because i dont know what other gm's are or are not willing to do. but basically, we'd have to package a guy like marbury along with houston and/or hardaway. nobod would take their contracts just by themselves, only if a guy like marbury was involved. then, if we coudl get under the cap, we could sign guys like redd, r. allen, k brown, swift, curry, etc... theres always good free agents every year. its just better to have an efficient payroll where you are ready to make a big move and sign a free agent than our current situation where we have no light at the end of the tunnel.

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