Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: This can't be our lineup!!!!!

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    225
    Rep Power
    11

    Default This can't be our lineup!!!!!

    I'm still waiting for a cohesive looking lineup. We don't have what it takes to make the playoffs. We have no PF at this point. Frye is physically challenged at this point in his career. There has to be a trade brewing. And Isiah... get a coach now. Stop this degrading process of waiting for Larry Brown. And get Herb out of here. He doen't have the respect of his players at this point. Make a deal for Stan Van Gundy or a viable coach. Don't degrade Herb by hiring him for one year. That's inhumane treatment of a coach. And please trade Marbury and get another big body in here or, is Jackie Butler going to fit the role?

  2. #2
    Member crawford_fan1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    BROOKLYN
    Posts
    129
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Starting PG will be Marbury.

    I'm not sure who will be our starting SG. Crawford should start SG.

    Richardson should start SF.

    Malik Rose should start PF.

    Frye is starting C.

  3. #3
    Superstar KnicksFan20's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Nj
    Posts
    554
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    u should just stop right now....please




    jerome james is our center
    Frye our pf
    Timmy our sf
    richardson our sg
    steph our pg

  4. #4
    Superstar ny3nyk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Queens, New York
    Posts
    520
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    i would go with a mix of off. and def. players:

    marbury-
    richardson- our main offense
    thomas-
    rose-
    james- defensive big men

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    east coast
    Posts
    94
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Why would we have Malik rose as our starting pf? No one mentioned Sweetney. If he can stay out of foul trouble, he'll put up decent numbers. There's certain types of players he can't guard. Outside shooting pf's and quick pf's. We'll use frye against them. No one has mentioned how sweetney did an above average job of guarding shaq. He can body people up and he's quicker than he looks.

  6. #6
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Philly
    Posts
    955
    Rep Power
    11

    Default

    in a different thread i said sweetney should start for his offense. bring rose or jyd for defense later.

  7. #7
    Superstar ny3nyk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Queens, New York
    Posts
    520
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    rose's size is a problem, if he was 6'10/11, i would definitely start him for his hard nose defense and rebounding. i am wondering if ariza is mentally ready to start, because skillwise, i think he has the ability to start. as for the 4, i guess sweetney could continue to start because he is working on his weight and still continues to improve his post game. he gets to the line often which we need

  8. #8
    Veteran Peach_NYK_21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    1,240
    Rep Power
    11

    Default Re: This can't be our lineup!!!!!

    Originally Posted by nycefnl
    And get Herb out of here. He doen't have the respect of his players at this point
    o man, i would love to see some proof of this (an article or something), but from watching the knicks this entire year i have yet to see any of the players comment on the way Herb coaches the team.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    192
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    The reason Herb is a coach is because of the respect he gets from his players. The players recognize his experience, as one of them, in this league. Herb is new to HEADcoaching, but he isn't dumb. Herb has been around and seen it all.

  10. #10
    El Cacique portega1968's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    River Rocks, Port Rich (Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico PUNETA!!!)
    Posts
    1,611
    Rep Power
    12

    Default

    If Larry comes to coach the Knicks and not withstanding further trades, various things will influence the starting lineup.

    If Malik isn't waived, I'm pretty sure Larry will start Malik for his defense (although I'd prefer Knicks waive Rose's 4 years instead of Allan's 2 years). Rose is Brown's type of player.

    Frye has 3 things against him starting: he's not ready, he's not a true center like James and Brown doesn't like to start rookies. I'm hoping Larry and staff can put some Rasheed in this kid or he'll be a goner in less than 2 seasons.

    Larry's gonna fall in love with the hustle of Nate, Ariza and Lee. These kids are gonna benefit big time if Larry has them for more than 3 years. Wouldn't be surprised to see Nate or Ariza start sometime this season if injuries were to hit us.

    Q will start without a doubt.

    Larry will go with Timmy over Jamal in the starting lineup, you can take that to the bank.

    Sweets and Jamal are trade bait. They are young and have upside, but not with Larry Brown. I repeat, they should be packaged for Dalembert or Chandler in a 3way, 4way, whatever...

    Timmy and Penny will land us the missing pieces before the feb. trade deadline.

    BTW, wouldn't surprise me to see Isiah go after Chris Webber for cheap after Philly waives him using the amnesty clause. That guy is owed OUCH $60 mil.

    I'm hoping Phoenix signs Joe Johnson so we'll have a crack at getting Marion for TT in feb.

    Penny will be going to a lottery-bound team looking to go under the cap when feb. comes around.

    I would love to see us end the season strong with a starting 5 featuring Steph, Q, Marion, Chandler and Dalembert, with the ability to go fast and younger with Nate and Ariza on the court and experienced and tougher in the middle with Rose and James.

    Lee, Frye and Mo will be ready and waiting. Allan, if not waived, may see some spot duty. Butler should be given another year at the NBA D-League, and at 21, will be much stronger next year. Penny will get a JD in IR by the time he's gone. Webber or Finley fills it out.

  11. #11
    Superstar KnicksFan20's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Nj
    Posts
    554
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    "Frye has 3 things against him starting: he's not ready, he's not a true center like James and Brown doesn't like to start rookies. I'm hoping Larry and staff can put some Rasheed in this kid or he'll be a goner in less than 2 seasons"




    Thats y u put him at the 4........he is quick, hustles and has shooting range.....

    also i would LOVE for larry to start him now......he already began to ruin darko's carear i dont wanna see fryes or n e other rookies carear end neither


    even tho darko is much younger......he has skills


    but we can guerentee not to see jackie butler this year

  12. #12
    El Cacique portega1968's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    River Rocks, Port Rich (Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico PUNETA!!!)
    Posts
    1,611
    Rep Power
    12

    Default

    You think Frye has any chance of getting the nod from Larry, or Herb Williams for that matter, at the PF spot over Sweets, Rose or Taylor? You got to be kidding. That spot may even go to Timmy, whatever.

    Fact remains: Frye is not ready and it would hurt his development, plain and simple.

  13. #13
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    1,590
    Rep Power
    11

    Default

    if the roster remains the same (which i believe it wont) youll see...

    C Jerome James
    F Mike Sweetney
    F Tim Thomas or Trevor Ariza
    G Quentin Richardson
    G Stephon Marbury

    theres this thing called a bench guys! Frye at the 4 would make how many ACTUAL centers for backup for James...hmm 1 JACKIE BUTLER! And if you havent notices James has started many games but hasnt got many minutes. he needs backup and thats frye.

  14. #14
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    17
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    I'd agree that Sweetney & Ariza will start. After taking over for Carlisle, Brown started Tayshaun, giving him 30+ min a game. With Ariza in the lineup, he'll need someone to help out the half court offense, and Rose can't do that, hence Sweetney will start as well. You can't have Rose, Ariza & James out there at the same time for too long, because the offense would suffer greatly. I think with Frye's inconsistent summer, Rose will be the backup center as well.

  15. #15
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    36
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    I think Larry will try all kinds of different combinations for the back court and front court depending on the match-ups/team chimestry, and to say otherwise is premature. the line up will differ depending on the situation, sometimes you'll see stephan running the point with Q at SG (Jamal back up), others u'll see nate running the point w/ Steph at SG and either Q/Ariza or timmy at SF. timmy will play the 3 or 4 depending on the pace of the game. I also thing that the JYD will get a lot of mins for his defense/hustle...the center position will be between james/sweetny/rose and fry depending if they wanna go small or big, half court or full court...bottom line it ALL depends...

Similar Threads

  1. The Starting Lineup Has NOT Been Named
    By littleed511 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: Oct 13, 2006, 18:00
  2. What would your lineup be?
    By mdelton in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: May 22, 2006, 14:53
  3. Knicks lineup ideas
    By nyk35 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: Sep 20, 2005, 00:56
  4. The Knicks Starting Lineup
    By Knicks_fan_4_eva92 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: Aug 11, 2005, 18:47
  5. knicks need new lineup
    By nycballa91 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Jun 02, 2004, 15:12

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •