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    I'd be shocked to see LB play Sweets at the 5 behind JJ... I know he's got good hands, great on the offensive glass... but he is an undersized (not weight-wise ) PF at 6'8!

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    History shows Larry will ALWAYS play a veteran over a rookie or younger player... that's why Rose will backup James instead of Sweets or Frye.

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    Sorry, which history is that?

    I think history will tell you that Larry Brown plays the players who give his team the best chance to win, regardless of their age. Tayshaun Prince is a great example of a young player whose minutes jumped from 10 per game to 30 per game in his first year under Brown and second season in the league (the Ariza comparisons are inevitable). Eric Snow was an unproven 3rd year player when his minutes jumped from 4 in Seattle to 18 in Philly in a mid season deal and 35 in his first full season under Brown. Theo Ratliff also came to Philly in his third year and Aaron McKie in his fourth, so Sweetney, entering his third year, could easily thrive under Brown if he's in shape.

    Larry Hughes came into the league pretty raw after only one year in college and he got 20 mpg under Brown. Tim Thomas, also after only one year in college, played 23 mpg and scored 11 ppg in one full season under Brown, his numbers are not much better 7 years later. Some coaches don't let 19 and 20 year olds any where near their ratations. So if Frye is half as good as Isiah thinks he shouldn't have a problem after four years at Zona (problem is that Isiah thinks he's a #1 overall pick when he was barely a first rounder till after his senior season).

    Nate Rob, who I know no one doubts, can be compared to Speedy Claxton, who played 22 minutes as a rookie in Philly. Although I would also love to see him come in a smother the oppossing PG the way Hunter did in the playoffs this year.

    The young guys who he's sat are raw guys who were clearly not NBA ready like Darko or Dalembert or just plain old bad like John Salmons.

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    Ariza needs minutes. I don't think he'll get them though. I think Larry will give the minutes to TT a vet rather than T-Risin. I think T-Risin is close to being the next Ron Artest. He is working on his shooting and the kid is only 20. We need to unfortunately keep TT and Penny, because the contract relief they offer us (TT=13,975,000 + Penny=15,750,000 = 29,725,000).

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    Originally Posted by Ted
    Sorry, which history is that?

    I think history will tell you that Larry Brown plays the players who give his team the best chance to win, regardless of their age. Tayshaun Prince is a great example of a young player whose minutes jumped from 10 per game to 30 per game in his first year under Brown and second season in the league (the Ariza comparisons are inevitable). Eric Snow was an unproven 3rd year player when his minutes jumped from 4 in Seattle to 18 in Philly in a mid season deal and 35 in his first full season under Brown. Theo Ratliff also came to Philly in his third year and Aaron McKie in his fourth, so Sweetney, entering his third year, could easily thrive under Brown if he's in shape.

    Larry Hughes came into the league pretty raw after only one year in college and he got 20 mpg under Brown. Tim Thomas, also after only one year in college, played 23 mpg and scored 11 ppg in one full season under Brown, his numbers are not much better 7 years later. Some coaches don't let 19 and 20 year olds any where near their ratations. So if Frye is half as good as Isiah thinks he shouldn't have a problem after four years at Zona (problem is that Isiah thinks he's a #1 overall pick when he was barely a first rounder till after his senior season).

    Nate Rob, who I know no one doubts, can be compared to Speedy Claxton, who played 22 minutes as a rookie in Philly. Although I would also love to see him come in a smother the oppossing PG the way Hunter did in the playoffs this year.

    The young guys who he's sat are raw guys who were clearly not NBA ready like Darko or Dalembert or just plain old bad like John Salmons.

    yo ted noes wat hes talkin about man listen to him

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    is larry brown that good? is he gunna give us 45 wins? what's so good about him? is changing the head coach gunna make that much of a difference? are the young players gunna be able to play? is he gunna treat the rookies like darko? so many questions....a lot of people seem to think something new is something awesome....juss like a lot of people said herb williams was the key to the knicks when they went on a 3-game winning streak or something.....

    gee...i wonder....

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    think Larry will give the minutes to TT a vet rather than T-Risin.




    wut veteran small forward do we have?


    besides arizan and timmy ......there are no other sf.....yea penny could play there richardson will be at the 2 (unless he runs a 3 guard offense from time to time) the only other Sf we got besides them is Lee(who is not a vet and a rookie)


    Ariza will get his minutes and u want to no wuts funny......Larry Brown nos ariza's talents witch is kinda strange since ariza is still an unknown player...he mentioned his name in a recent press conference


    he also said he could turn jamal crawford into a defensive threat...i hope wut he says is true

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    If (the royal 'if') Finley comes into town... i'd hate Ariza to get stuck behind Q and Finley.

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    Larry will like Ariza because he was a good rookie last year and he could be a good player if he work on his field goals.
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    " he could be a good player if he work on his field goals. "


    Ariza is not a kicker for the NFL.....


    no but i agree as soon as arizas shots start to drop... he will be a great player for years to come for us

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    It's true historically Larry Brown favors experienced players, but anything's possible! Ariza's got skill. No question about that, but I don't see him getting minutes unless the some of the starter start f*#@king up! I'd like to see him get minutes. Honestly Crawford is growing on me. He had that one game when he scored 36 pts. He showed me something. It may be a waist to bench him.

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    yes but crawford also had games where he only scored 8 points and went 3 for 16..


    crawford is an off and on guy and when hes off he keeps shooting to try to find his touch....


    id rathre have crawford come off the bench...his D is a liability......hes a great player...but his D and off and on games hurt him...


    he also scored 50 in a game when he was on the bulls.....but hes not consistant

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