our situation with the small foward

[ny3nyk]

i think the 3 is the position our team is most weak at. we have guards who could play the 1 and 2, too many 4s, and 2 decent centers. who to start, ariza or thomas? some people (including me) seem to think that thomas will have a break out season since he is on his last year and is from the area (patterson, new jersey to be exact). i think all he has gotten through his "depression" ever since 2 of his family members died, so im pretty sure he'll come into the season fresh. the smart thing to do is to see how he plays and trade him before the deadline if he does not meet expectations. some small fowards that are logical are wally szcerbiak, al harrington, and ira newble. if we could get rid of thomas for one or 2 of these guys it would be great. any thoughts?

[KnicksFan20]

thomas is better then all of those guys


thomas is a great offensive player......his ppg dont show up becuase he doesnt get the minutes a starter should get....

hes shooting over like .430% from teh field in his career.....

and like .360 sum from 3...


he can post up, score with his back facing the basket or just facing the basket....

he is very strong, he can dunk, can shoot the midranger, or pop a 3....he is a good scored just doesnt get the minutes

he plays like 25 mins a game.....witch is basically only have the game.....


if u think about it he had 12 pnts a game with 4 rebounds.....


if givin 5-10 more minutes he could easically have


18 pnts a game, with 6-7 rebounds a game.....

but u look at everything besides the amount of playing time he gets....he isnt the greatest defenders...but a great defender is hard to find no adays.......

[donchris]

I agree 100%. I'd rather see Szczerbiak play small forward but defence may be an issue. There's no question that Szczerbiak is the best shooter out of all of the guys you mentioned. As far as I'm concerned, Thomas has not been productive enough on the court. I don't see him as a guy that can make things happen if Marbury or Crawford are having a bad night. Last season Tiny Timmy averaged 12 PPG 3.30 rebounds. A mediocre performance at best. No way is this guy a third option.
Now look at Szczerbiak's stats. 15.5 PPG 3.70 Rebounds. That's how Szczerbiak ended the season and at times he didn't even start.

[KnicksFan20]

DID U READ WUT I SAID

he ONLY gets 26 mins a game......


tim thomas is a better shooter then wally is

[ny3nyk]

yea i like tim too, but im saying we need to pursue a defensive minded small foward with offensive skills if we happen to let go of thomas

[donchris]

Thomas is dead weight. It's got little to do with his playing time. More playing time equals more missed shots and turnovers.

[KnicksFan20]

more missed shots??? he has a great fg % more minutes=more made shots.....stopping trying to go against everything i say....cuz everytime u do u look like a moron

[ny3nyk]

gerald wallace is also an underrated small foward. i would love to have him

[KnicksFan20]

yea gerald wallace is a really good defender and can score some (gerald wallace from teh bobcats right?) but i like Ariza better .....

[ny3nyk]

yep thats him. hes still young and he knows what it takes to win since he was with the kings for a while, but i think the bobcats will keep him.

[donchris]

KnicksFan20 don't take what I say personal, it's not that serious. I don't think Thomas is all that great of a player. That's my opinion and I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings. Come on dog! We're all Knicks fans. Your making this forum look like a bad episode of Melrose Place or something. Stop whinning! Who are you, John Starks?

[johnknicksman]

the knicks have a excellent sf in tim thomas we should definitly start him tim thomas is going to have a great season this season now he's playing for money he'll get serious now and wats not good about him he's a big sf who can post up on even pf's and he's very athletic for being 6-10 and he can shoot and take it to the rim tell me wats not good about him his stats r low because he does not play much and if u judge players by stats i know u dont watch basketball wat do u do go to nba.com and look up player stats come on get real watch tim thomas play u will think about calling him dead weight twice

that made me so mad i posted it twice

[NYKnicks15]

that made me so mad i deleted it twice..

guys were keeping tim thomas and we should. let his contract run out and RESIGN him for cheap!!! WallyWorld?!?! why does everyone like this NATURAL shooting guard? we dont need him and if we did we should trade a Crawford for him. Big contract I dont want! Plus hes a injury prone loser.

guys dont be so hard on Thomas. Hes not a big of a scrub as everyone thinks and everyone will see this season. I predict a breakout season for Tim under Brown. He has the ability and so much untapped potential its ridiculous. I know thats why everyone dislikes him, because hes what the prototypical nba player should look like and play like but he doesnt live up to it. I have a feeling Tim Thomas will be Larry Browns favorite player this season right in front of Trevor Ariza and Jerome Williams...

[portega1968]

IMO, we don't have a problem at SF. Timmy, Ariza, Lee, QRich, Jerome Williams, they all can play that spot. What we do need is a better PF or Center.

[S-Nutta]

Oh wow!! Tim Thomas is a better shooter than Wally? Yeah freakin right!! Tim Thomas is more well rounded offensively but not a better shooter. But I hate Wally so I actually agree with you. Wally is garbage, doesn't play defense, is injury prone, and a straight up girl. I say we keep Tiny, he's in his last year and NBA players, being so damn greedy will play his heart out. Especially under LB. Tim Thomas does have a lot of untapped potential, he very well could be a 20 a night type of scorer, but he simply does not put together that type of effort night in and night out. Nutta Out