Where are the marbury haters????
To all the people who want to trade marbury....
where are u now???
To all the people who think Crawford or nate can run the point better than Steph....
To all the people who think that the offense flows more smoothly w/o marbury....
Can all the Marbury haters, please stand up!!
i'm still here... never questioned that 'towel-head' is a good player, but he will not make the team better, and certainly will never bring a team (knicks or others) to the promised land.. ie the championship..
but... i guess u gotta root for him, cause him and his 76m contract ain't going no-where..
hey man,Originally Posted by paris401
you are talkin' about bullsh*t!! "never bring a team to the promised land.."?? it is NOT a work of ONE MAN!! its like Kobe wont win the championship with that Lakers no matter what!
Just bring a real dominant big guy to Stephon! Bring O'Neal or KG to the Knicks or just change Marbury with Billups & he will win the championship!
whatever.. there are some guys who just dont understand the things in the league and just talk stupid.
If nothing happens wit Marbury in the T-Wolves game, I'm sure they would win it & we could win over Chicago too..
So let's just pray that he will come back soon!! HE is the BEST player in the team, no matter what!!!
nothing u just said makes any sense...Originally Posted by commonse
1. It's been well noted by numerous NBA analyst and reporters that OFFENSIVELY, Eddy Curry is as dominant as they come. It's his defense and transition game that require much work. I'm not saying Curry is even close to KG or Shaq but Curry is by no means a horrible big man either. The addition of Curry was supposed to make things easier for Marbury for him to become a scoring PG since Curry takes up so much space in the paint.
2. Bringing KG or Shaq may make significant improvements to our team but until Steph learns to be a TRUE PG, he still wouldn't be able to win a championship. Steph needs to learn how to develop a chemistry with his supporting cast, something that he has shown a lack of on all of his past teams.
3. Exchanging Billups or any other Top PG for Marbury probably isn't the answer either. Doubt anyone would be able to lead this team to the championships but we definitely have to address the issue that Marbury is better suited as scorer and cannot be our point.
Being a point guard isn't easy. Point guards are measured by how well they make players better around them. They are viewed as floor the primary floor general and largely responsible for the offense of the team. By those standards Stephon is certainly not an attractive name anymore in this league. If he was a shooting guard, the criticism would go away pretty quickly. But as long as his position is at the point, then it is perfectly fine to rip his game. Its not just him though...Steve Francis suffers from the same critique, Iverson once did, and so does Baron Davis. All those players, including Marbury, look great on paper and can ball with the best of them, but GMs, coaches, and scouts all know that if you want a point guard that is gona win your team games, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby and Chauncy Billups is the way to go. No other position comes with the burden of being responsible for the collective play of your team. (Well unless your Kobe or LeBron)
[quote="commonse"]you are wrong... it is the work of one man... one man can make the team better... and usually its the point guard... a la kidd, or nash , or billups...Originally Posted by paris401
how many points did billips score last nite, doesn;t matter cause he plays on a T E A M.. 'towelhead' will never understand the word "TEAM" ..
ya a bunch of haters, if u say marbury is wack, u must think the whole knick squad is wack cuz marbury is the best...marbury is not a larry brown PG, he is also a better shooter than passer...only thing i dont like about marbury is that sometimes he over passes, he sometimes passes too much and thats cuz he trying to keep all ya haters happy
no way the knicks are 'wack'''... no its the coach... if herb was still the coach, they would be up there fighting the pistons and the spurs for the best record ...Originally Posted by datruth
[quote="paris401"]Originally Posted by commonse
You're wrong about that buddy. One man cannot make a whole team better if he does not have the a certain caliber of players at his side.
You think MJ could have done it without Scottie?
You think Kobe could have done it without Shaq
All great players need either
1. another all star to play on the same team
2. A group of great role playing guys
First off let's look at Kidd...
If Kidd is so great at making teams better why did Phx trade his ass?
He got into a lucky situation in NJ when he had 2 SUPER athletic players in Kmart and RJ.
You say Marbury played with NJ - how come he didn't win?
Well RJ wasn't drafted yet and Kmart was hurt. All he had was soft ass Keith Van Horn.
All the teams Marbury have been on never had any qualifying talent around him.
Let Marbury play with one other all star and u'll see how many games the knicks win...
Right now, we have none. We may have future all stars but once again, he is persently in a situation where he doesn't have the type of talent to augur with his skillset.
Maybe that will change when
1. Curry cuts down on his offensive fouls and grabs more rebounds
2. Crawford gets a more consistent shot
3. Q gets a more consistent shot
4. Frye learns to play better D
5. Nate learns to play under control
Trin_starr & datruth have right!
That Paris guy & the other guy talkin' against the Knicks, I dont know how could they become members..
New York need Marbury & Marbury needs New York, thats all I can say, let's get KG somehow & everything will be alright!!
GO KNICKS, GO STARBURY!!!
before steve nash came to the suns, they were juss a below average team....and shawn marion and amare stoudamire was STILL THERE!!!! what happened after nash joined the 2 of them? well, phx ended up wit the best record in the nba, they had the best offense, and amare became montrous and unstoppable....sure sum minor players joined the team also, but steve nash made everything happen....and that's y he got the mpv over shaq and td and ai.....so i guess one person CAN make a team better....and it cant be a coincidence that every team steph's been on has been horrible.... how can u disagree with that??? it's true....too true and too sad that we have him
I followed Stephon's career from the beginning & you could believe that I know much about him & his way! And when he played in the Phoenix, Amare wasnt that mature as he is know. Now Stoudamire is a dominant big guy, before he played like a young "hot head", undetermined player.Originally Posted by H20 OFFdaHizZLe
It's like Frye & Curry plays a game now... but 3 years older they will be really GREAT I'm sure, like they will dominate in their position and what then? Maybe they wont play with Marbury together and then there will be the same story: With Marbury they wasnt good, but look now.. They have an avg over 22!! Thats Bullsh*t!
Look the team's field goals, turnovers and stats after the T-Wolves game! Against the Detroit the rookies, Crawford had the chance to play.. Nate & Craw produced 13 pts together!! so you think we dont need Steph??
Marbury helped the Knicks to the Playoffs in 2004, even if they lost because there wasnt a real big guy.. and when could the Knicks win 6 in a row before?? Just look Marbury's stats in that 6 game: 23.3 ppg, 9.3 apg, 1.7 spg, 3.7 rpg, 47% fields goals!! His leadership got us to win those games! He is more matured now then before.. and there is the possibility to get to the Playoffs this year because he is here!!
LET'S GO KNICKS!!!
yep... kg most certainly is not a 'qualifying talent'Originally Posted by Trin_Starr
Herb would lead us to the top three at eastern conference ?!Originally Posted by paris401
are you kidding me ?!
I think that knicks's roster is awesome but in the court the game sux.
Last week we had six straight wins, and now we are 6-4.
Those losing streaks are killing us, if the knicks are still thinking about going to the playoffs, something has to be done very quickly !
i meant without marbury, dont u see how the offense runs without marburyOriginally Posted by paris401
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