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    Cool Sad lost but oh well!

    As we all know the Knicks lost.....NO SURPRISE! Anyway I have faith in them that they will clean up there act! From what in the first quarter I knid of knew they were gonna lose. Marbury was funny! Hopefully like he said, he will not continue on with talking about Larry Brown. It's about time!

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    ok i watched the game 2nite and here's what i thought...

    lee seems possesed. he is hustling around the court more than anyone out there. he has deft improved his rebounding and is playing a lot more physical. (we betta keep him)

    balkman is on every loose ball and every rebound. he is at his best cutting thru the lane and dishing to the open man (just what we needed). his defense is great. he shut down kevin martin on a shot that coulda won the game for sacramento. he made a few rookie mistakes but he deft has potential. (we betta keep him)

    collins also plays great d. he is another one who penetrates and finds his teammates. he doesnt need to shoot to make an impact which also fits him in perfect. he had some nice shots under the basket that scored him some nice and 1's. (keep him)

    nate robinson: i love him but he needs to chill with the 3's. i saw him dribbling out the shot clock and chucking up a 3 too many times. i like the energy he brings but the knicks pulled themselves out from a 10+ deficit with him out of the game. he isnt the greatest passer. he's quick and is good @ catching the d off guard, not sure if he's gonna fit in that great with our guys.(tradable)

    ime udoka sucks.

    frye was injured which is starting to seem like a habit of his. and whats the main reason most of you guys dont wanna bring in k-mart? i say if it took frye in a deal to get him. go 4 it.

    i think q-rich should NOT be traded! ive changed my mind. after seein the way balkman, collins, and lee like to distribute the ball i now c we need an outside threat to open up the paint. with these 2 rookies coming in it will deft help q get plenty more open shots.

    now they have one of isiah thomas' practices w/ the summer league players on tv. im watchin him school the big men and from what i hear him preachin its obvious he knows what hes talkin about. i got a good feelin about this season.

    we won by a point but the truth is ron artest disappeared @ half time. i think he hit up a titty bar on the strip. without artest our young guys showed what they're capable of. thats my take. anyone else see the game? whatchu think...

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    Originally Posted by sxmarbury516
    frye was injured which is starting to seem like a habit of his. and whats the main reason most of you guys dont wanna bring in k-mart? i say if it took frye in a deal to get him. go 4 it.
    Frye has not been injured alot and kenyon martin gotta serious injury and in my opinion frye is going be a better player than martin very soon

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    sxmarbury516, don’t sleep on Frye, he’ll be fine. I understand your frustration, but have patience with Frye. There is a reason every team talking to the Knicks about trades mention Frye’s name. If you’ve seen him play a lot, and I think you have, you know he’s a good player. He’s young, which means he can go from good to great soon, and you might want to see that, especially in a Knick uniform.
    And besides, he’s Dirk Nowitski in a few years. Mark my words!!
    I wasn’t able to see the game, thanx for the update!

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    Like I've said before, let's take advantage of Frye's current value and trade him before it starts dropping. Of course, we should only use him in a trade for a superstar.

    Let's be honest here people... Frye has a killer mid-range jumper and makes his free throws, but what else does he bring to the table? His defense is very poor, he will never have an effective post-up game and his rebounding sucks. These three shortcomings are enough to limit his value at the PF spot. He's good for the pick-and-roll, but that's all he has.

    David Lee deserves the PF spot ahead of Frye; his defense and rebounding are way above Frye and he's an excellent passer. I think it's a mistake forcing him to become a SF.

    Francis, Frye and the expiring deals should be more than enough to land a star of Garnett's caliber, and I say we should jump on such an opportunity.

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    another person who wants to trade for a name. dude calm down. Robinson fell on his leg. He was out from then on thats it. Then he misses one summer league game and you want to ship him for Mr. Brokedown from the Mountains Kenyon Martin? get real.

    David Lee: 5/13 shooting. 13 pts. 13 rebs. 2 asts. 3 stls.
    Robinson: 5/12 shooting. 16 pts. 3 rebs. 4 asts. 2 stls.
    Balkman: 4/7 shooting. 11 pts. 8 rebs. 3 asts. 2 block shots
    Frye: DNP as aforementioned
    Collins: 3/9 shooting. 9 pts. 2 rebs. 1 ast. 2 stls.

    i do agree with one thing you said. kid with the pic of himself and marbury. Robinson is tradeable. and if Seattle wants him in a deal for Rashard Lewis.. do it up!

    Garnett? what is with you ppl? we talk about how Lee is a beast. then we should ship out two good players for one aging huge contract big man who plays the SF? i like Garnett but give Frye a chance. He'll be a great player. He's bulked up, he's got new in the post moves. You'll be pleasantly surprised. He has the same game as KG for god sakes. how much does KG stay in the post? haha.

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    David Lee: 3/10 shooting. 10 pts. 9 rebs. 3 asts. 3 stls. 1 block
    Robinson: 2/5 shooting. 8 pts. 4 rebs. 5 asts. 1 stls.
    Balkman: 2/2 shooting. 5 pts. 3 rebs. 2 asts. 1 stls.
    Collins: 4/9 shooting. 10 pts. 5 rebs.

    notable mentions..
    Brian Green (6'7 F rook) 7/13 shooting. 17 pts. 2 rebs. 1 ast.
    Walker Russell Jr. (6' G rook) 4/7 shooting. 12 pts. 3 rebs. 1 ast.
    Kenny Adeleke (6'8 F rook) 4/4 shooting. 8 pts. 6 rebs. 1 stl. 1 block.
    Paul Miller (6'10 C rook) 6/8 shooting. 13 pts. 3 rebs.

    Good to see Nate playing the point in this game. and David Lee man.. he's just a beast. We killed Detroit 91-68

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    I like Nate Robinson, but for Rashard Lewis, I could learn to hate him. Has to be straight up or with a bad contract, though.

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    Originally Posted by portega1968
    Let's be honest here people... Frye has a killer mid-range jumper and makes his free throws, but what else does he bring to the table? His defense is very poor, he will never have an effective post-up game and his rebounding sucks. These three shortcomings are enough to limit his value at the PF spot. He's good for the pick-and-roll, but that's all he has.

    That's insane...Frye has the length and size perfect for a PF.
    His shooting touch is extraordinary

    Rebounding and Defense is all about positioning - this is something that he can be taught and the biggest thing is that he is willing to learn and is a very hard worker....

    Do you know how hard it is to add on 15lbs of muscle in less than 2 months - that's determination, hard work and perseverance...the knicks told him to bulk up and he's taking their advice 100% - that's a good player - one who listens....he has only played one year....give the guy a break...


    Do you know of a guy called Jermaine O'neal???
    He came into the league and blew up in his 4th year
    his first year he averaged 3rebs and 4pts in 10mins
    Frye averaged 6 and 12 in his in 24mins
    so if we extrapolate J O'neals 10 mins to 24
    J O'neal was set to make 7boards and 10pts a game...
    Pretty similar stats i would say...

    Aguirre worked with Oneal and now look at him - a 20/10 guy
    It's all about the work ethic and Frye has that desire to be great...

    We shouldn't be so quick to trade away our future

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    Defense and rebounding is all about instinct and hunger...the guy who wants the rebound the most usually gets it such as Big Ben, Dennis Rodman, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, Bill Russel and the list goes on...but Frye having a jump shot and not being as physical as the players I just listed must improve on this. You can teach a guy defense and you can teach someone the fundamentals of rebounding and boxing out but if you're not physical and you don't have the hunger and mindeset to get the rebound then you can have the highest IQ on the court but you're not going to get the board. Basketball is mostly a mental game. And frye didn't add 15 pounds of muscle he said he only added 5 pounds in an interview posted on knicks.com. Nevertheless the kid has game...I'm liking him everytime I see him put that knick jersey on. But you're right about not trading away our future...they're making a big impact right now on our team...let them grow and they will be knick stars for us in the near future

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    From Derek (Charlotte, NC):
    Q: Are there any negatives to adding the additional 20 lbs. It certainly helps your power game but how will it affect your agility?

    A: I have actually gained 15 pounds of muscle and that will help me with my agility and explosiveness on the court. I have been working with our strength coach, Greg Brittenham, all summer and he gotten me in great shape.
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    Knicks fans will notice a slightly new-look Frye this season, one perhaps better equipped to handle the wars down in the low post when needed. Early reports had Frye adding as many as 15 pounds to his 6-foot-11 frame. When told that figure, he laughed it off.

    “I bulked up a little bit, but it’s not 15 pounds,” he said. “It’s more like five. I just got a lot in my legs from doing a lot of rehab. It’s just all athletic muscle.
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    Default NYK-SAC SL Balkman, nate and lee shine

    watch the highlights on nbs.com, wow, i see what i isiah saw in this kid, him and lee play like they were playing together for years, i like his explosiveness off the pick and his ability to accurately dish it late, while driving to the hoop...nate looks like he's working on his 3' shot and lee is amazing....question tho, did we win the game? we were up 3 with 3 mins to go

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