As I'm sure you all know Jefferies is now a Knick. According to NY Daily News, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Jefferies is expected to start over Jalen Rose and Quenton Richarson. So the question is why do we need Richardson? Knicks have been reportidly shopping Richardson but have not found any takers due to his low scoring and back problems. Wow, he even sounds like a Knick!
I think it's a smart move to start Jefferies. He brings the defensive presence we need and does not require the ball at all. This still does not solve our abundance of guards problem but it looks like a step in the right direction.
First off.. and not to strike anger into any of H20 leg humpers but Jared Jeffries has taken number 20.. I just HOPE we have better luck with this number 20.
Second. Isiah is trying to ship him because well Marbury and him don't get along. Pretty stupid. I actually think we should move Quentin to a better position for him at Shooting Guard and heavily pursue shipping out Steve Francis. No one will take Q (this side of Portland) so lets ship out Steve. NOW if we could somehow package Q to get Randolph from them then I wouldnt mind it so much. But I think first and foremost we should send Steve out and move Q to SG.
thats what im saying, Q is not a SF though he is capable to play it but he is a SG and probably the best SG the knicks have(him and crawford), if the knicks plan to play phoenix kind of game why not keep em when he had a great year wit the offense, he went through alot last season, give em a breakOriginally Posted by NYKnicks15
I disagree completely. If we trade away francis and move Q-Rich to the SG then not only will his chances of getting hurt (like everyother year in his career) increase but if and when he gets hurt who will we play at the 2 then? I say we start marbury and francis. Two both durable and offensively powerful guards that can push the ball and create havoc in the backcourt. Then we can bring Q-Rich off the bench so we won't have to demand much out of him. Lets face it...Q-Rich's game has be scarred by injuries. Maybe last year being the exception. But if you trade francis away now...then that might cost us at the end of the season...Originally Posted by NYKnicks15
I think we will be quite alright without Steve Francis. With a guard rotation of Crawford, Richardson, Marbury, Robinson, Collins and even Rose.. I think well be plenty okay if we trade away Francis.
Push the backcourt yes. But small? very. a backcourt with neither guard over 6'2 is not something to hope for. Especially when neither play D or can shoot the three ball to spread the floor. Its not going to work.
Scarred by injury? I really cant remember one season past 02-03 where he has played 60 games or less. I mean we all know he has a bad back.. but not to the point where he misses a ton by it NOR where hell hurt our team cause of it COMPARED to Francis' bad attitude, me first, lack of height, 3pt shooting and defense ability.
We can get a lot more for Francis then we can get for Q (granted anyone will take Q). Im sticking with shipping him out.
How about we ship them both out. Ship out Richardson and Francis. That will solve our guard problem wont it?
shipping them both out will just be more difficult, maybe even impossible! i'd defintly like to get give francis the boot but im not too sure about letting richardson go. last season richardson and the rookies seemed to be the only ones on the team that had the will to win. not even larry brown (not going any further with brown). also, assuming quentin finds his offense in isiah's new system along with his newly found defence from last season, q-rich will be a triple threat, a shooter, passer, defender. what im scared about trading q and francis will be the overcrowdedness of it. in the "where would u send steve francis" topic by nyknicks15 he mentioned a deal to portland for randolph and miles. theyre both great players but the roster will be full with redundant players and wil cut playing time from others, not to mentioned the trouble of finding a consistant starting line-up which was a nightmare last season.
Isiah is doing the right thing...he's going to ship out Q-Rich but waiting on steve francis...
Originally Posted by The 1 and Only
the knicks have a SG named jamal crawford and last year was the first year Q missed 20+ games in his career, stop acting like he is injury prone
Well Jared Jeffries is doesnt play the same way as Quentin. What ever Jared cant be able to do Quentin is the back up. And Jalen has not need to be there. Isiah should just trade hime for a center or something.
So sorry da truth...you're wrong. You aren't 'da truth' this time. Q-Rich missed 22 in 02-03, 17 in 03-04, and 27 in 04-05... so no I'm not acting like he's injury proned...he is injury proneOriginally Posted by datruth
that was corny. but hell still give you 65 games a year and if coming off the bench wont be that big of a liability.
and 17 isnt over 20.. so disregard that.
thats 2 seasons of 20+ games.
And that comment had nothing to do with my statement...you're obviously missing the point completely...You don't have to miss 20 games every year to be considered as an injury proned player. Oh my bad...he has 2 seasons when he missed 20+ games, and don't forget he's only played in the league for 6 years. As of right now...he's not only injury proned...he's an uninsured player with a career ending back injury waiting to happen. Check up on his games played...then comment because if you don't think he's injury proned then maybe we're talking about two different players....