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    Media [Newsday] Shaq To Marbury: Let Your Play Talk

    Shaquille O'Neal said Stephon Marbury should let his play speak for itself and speculated that the Knicks' point guard would have been better off playing another season for Larry Brown.

    "If you say you're the best point guard in the world, now you have to come out and show that every night," O'Neal said on SportsNet New York. "The only time when I really say that is when I have a real big game. You never really heard me say I'm the best center to ever play the game. When you say that, you have to come out and show that every night, especially here in New York."

    When asked before a game against the Nets during the 2004-05 season how he would match up with Jason Kidd, Marbury replied, "I'm the best point guard in the NBA."
    O'Neal, in the city with Miami Heat teammate Alonzo Mourning for a charity event, said of Marbury's relationship with Brown, "You have to listen to somebody that's been there.
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    shaq is full of s..t!! but he is right in one sense. you gotta put up or shut up. zo and shaq can talk all they want but they never played for larry brown and they weren't with the knicks last year to see what was going on so.....

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    Yea you're right...shaq wouldn't have put up with that junk from LB last year. But he's right...TALK IS CHEAP! If you say you're the best you got to prove you're the best...PERIOD. But marbury would kill kidd 1on1 wise...

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    Originally Posted by alrobinson6022
    zo and shaq can talk all they want but they never played for larry brown and they weren't with the knicks last year to see what was going on so.....
    Theres no way thats gonna happen

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    yea shaq would of never have puttin up with larry brown and shaq shouldnt be running his mouth about something he knows nothing about

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    Cool Shaq To Marbury: Let Your Play Talk :

    Originally Posted by The 1 and Only
    But marbury would kill kidd 1on1 wise...

    I always thought that basketball is team sport. I don`t give a **** whether Starbury kills Kidd 1 on 1. This is ****ing "Gangster ****". The most important thing is that he impoves his teammates. He achieves success wherever he plays. At the end of the day it`s about the team. That`s the point that STARBURY does`nt understand. You need to ask the guys who played with him. They confirm that he is a selfish person.


    The only way to suceed is to create a team without starbury!

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    That's not fair. I hear the media say that all the time but it can't be true. The stats don't lie. Mabury has always distrubuted the ball.

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    Do you not think that's not obvious? I'm making a point...listen to the whole convo before you judge my words. Jason Kidd WAS the supposed best PG in the league and I said that marbury could beat him in 1on1...how are you going to bring the team into that equation...I really don't feel like arguing with another Marbury hater...so just watch the season this year and then judge....

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    Excellent point again Don...I agree 100%

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    As now the best PG in the NBA is Dwade. Done end of story. Finals MVP and delivered in the clutch.

    Shaq say what you want to say about him he has dominated and hes a 4 time champ...hes won MVP a couple of times...and hes gotten Finals MVP.

    Marbury lets see never won MVP, no finals MVP, never lead a team to the finals....

    No comparison.

    I side with Shaq...yall act like Marbury is ****tin carrots or something.

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    First of all dawg...D-Wade is a combo guard that plays the SG spot most of the time while either GP or White chocolate plays the 1...so no he's not the best PG in the game. And I have never heard anyone deny the fact that what shaq said was the truth...I've heard people criticize him on his advice on how he would've handled LB but other than that no one says he's wrong so calm down...calm down. It's hard to say who the best PG is now...Steve Nash is a really good PG....REALLY GOOD...but he's no MVP and he has a custom made team built just for him. JUST FOR HIM. The whole team can run with him, rebound the ball and outlet the ball to him, and can light it up from the three and pound it down low....if you're a PG isn't all that on your christmas list?? I think marbury and any other PG would love to be on a team like that. And push all the awards to the side...let's talk about ballin...do you not think that marbury can bumrush any PG in this league?? Tell your unbiased unhateful truth...marbury would shake and bake any PG you put in front of him...the only thing stopping him last year was LB. Like what they say...if you have haters then you know you're doing well...REAL WELL....

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    Originally Posted by donchris
    That's not fair. I hear the media say that all the time but it can't be true. The stats don't lie. Mabury has always distrubuted the ball.
    When breaking down Stephon's play as a PG, you have to look at more than the individual stats, you also have to look at the team's overall performance (Win-Loss). Unfortunately, Stephon has not been able to win games.

    Shaq's statement that if you're going to make a claim to be the best, you better be able to back it up. Not just with stats, but with overall team performance. The role of a PG is to be the team's floor general. A good floor general wins games. A bad one loses them. So if you're going to make the claim that you're the league's best floor general, you need to win games. A lot of them.

    Really, the fact that Stephon THINKS that he is the best PG in the league is what really holds him back from BEING the best PG in the league, IMO. By thinking that you're the best, you don't allow yourself room in your mind to believe that you have areas in your game that need to be improved. The tools are all there, but unfortunately, he's coupled it with a very proud attitude.

    In fact, having Larry Brown as Stephon's coach was actually the best scenario to prove that Stephon was the best PG in the league. Larry Brown's 40+ starting lineups is often looked upon as a huge negative, but it was also the best opportunity for Stephon to prove his leadership skills as a PG. If Stephon had been able to get the Knicks to win with all those different starting lineups, then there can be no denying that he really is the league's best PG. But unfortunately, that didn't happen. And what we see now is the fact that Stephon, as great a player as he is, is not a good floor general.

    I'm not hating on Stephon. I think that he can still be the league's best PG, but so far, he hasn't shown that he is able to take the steps necessary to be it.

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    Originally Posted by The 1 and Only
    Do you not think that's not obvious? I'm making a point...listen to the whole convo before you judge my words. Jason Kidd WAS the supposed best PG in the league and I said that marbury could beat him in 1on1...how are you going to bring the team into that equation...I really don't feel like arguing with another Marbury hater...so just watch the season this year and then judge....


    What is your definition of "Best PG"? Having the best skills one on one like crossover etc? Sorry but that`s bull ****. I think that PG is the most important position because a PG has to anticipate situations and he has to lead the team in critical sitiations! These are the important skills Marybury does`nt have. He is the type of guy who looks in the mirror and says: "I am great, yeah I am great, I love myself! My team loses but I don`t care as long as I earn money"

    The best PG`s in the NBA:

    1. Steve Nash MVP
    2. Kidd
    3. Billups
    4......






    At the end of my list:

    Stephon "Starbury" Marbury!

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    But see that's your opinion...I believe just as much in what you said as the PG is supposed to step up in any statistical category that the team lacks, push the tempo at the right times, and etc etc. When you put up the numbers that marbury has...it's not marbury's fault that he's losing. The man averages a career 20+ pts and 8+ asts. He's in the same boat as KG, Paul Pierce, Zach Randolph, now the current Kobe Bryant, and countless of other players...and the only one I hear getting dissed all day is Starbury.We praise Kobe on him scoring 81 points but he can't get his team anywhere. We say how good KG is but he can't make it past the first round, Paul Pierce dominates the game like no other but he can't get anywhere either...so why aren't these names mentioned?? It's because ya'll aren't KG haters or Kobe haters...some of you people are STARBURY haters and you need to go back in being a knick fan real quick instead of a hater. You guys are crying like talking bad about starbury is going to change things...Musa, I don't care if he's at the bottom of YOUR list. That's your opinion...i respect it even though it is wrong. And in the three PGs you just named...you notice how good there teams are? If you remove the PG from each team they would still be a playoff team...can you say the same thing for the knicks? Nope. And since Steve Nash is MVP doesn't mean that he's the best PG in the game. He doesn't deserve the MVP. He's a good point guard but a poor vote for MVP. Lebron, Wade, and Pierce deserved it more than him...

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    Originally Posted by The 1 and Only
    And in the three PGs you just named...you notice how good there teams are? If you remove the PG from each team they would still be a playoff team...can you say the same thing for the knicks? Nope. And since Steve Nash is MVP doesn't mean that he's the best PG in the game. He doesn't deserve the MVP. He's a good point guard but a poor vote for MVP. Lebron, Wade, and Pierce deserved it more than him...

    I agree that Suns would make the playoffs without Nash. But he is one of those guys who can take you to the next level. That`s the point. You have to agree that Starbury isn`t able to do that. You are talking about Starbury`s stats. Indeed his stats are good but being a great PG takes more than (20/8) stats. What about team chemistry???

    It seems to me that people in America are only interested in stats of a player (and his shoes). Am i wrong? Is that all?

    Take a look at the list of players who left the team cause of Marbury:

    Kurt Thomas

    Tim Thomas

    Keith Van Horn

    Next one is QRich.

    You can say that he is a real good player with great skills like cross over etc but the fact is he isn`t a team player! That`s the reason why the Knicks does`nt suceed.

    I love the Knicks :-) but I hate the way Marbury behaves and plays Basketball.

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