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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Its very FUNNY fans like these want to give Isiah Thomas 3-5 years of time to change things around, but when its Larry Brown, they expect him to turn things around in 3-6 months. Talk about BIAS.
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    Originally Posted by donchris
    ... Bring back Brown you are the biggest loser of them all. Not even the Pistons give two ****s about Brown. May be you can post a blog on how it is to toss Larry Browns salad. Do you use jelly or syrup?
    Funny comments coming from a flagrant Isiah Thomas blowjob artist.

    (Isiah Thomas --> <--- donchris)

    By the way ... how is the FEDERAL INVESTIGATION into the Isiah Thomas SEXUAL HARRASSMENT charge going?

    The only thing Isiah Thomas has been SUCCESSFULL at was causing the Knicks and MSG to get hit with a SEXUAL HARRASSMENT LAWSUIT.

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    Originally Posted by donchris
    In the business of basket ball you and I are consumers. If you don't like the product don't buy it. But please, please, please stop bitching about how you think the product sucks. That is not the makings of a true fan. A true fan supports the team. They don't just keep bitching all season on who needs to be fired. How in the blue hell is Dolian going to be fired? It's an argument with no point in site. Yes the Knicks suck right now but they are making small improvements. Marbury is stepping up. Curry is stepping up. I never read a post from you Starks or BBLB that says any positives about the Knicks. All I see is a bunch of bitching.
    Real fans stand up!

    Please, Knicks aren't a PRODUCT. I'm dedicated and loyal to this team. You don't support the TEAM, you support Isiah Thomas. All I see is a buch of Isiah love from you. Small improvements? I guess being the 2nd worst team in the NBA to the 4th worst team in the NBA is a small improvement. Sorry, unlike you, I want the BEST for my team. Dolan and Isiah need to resign and go. We need to look to a more brighter future. I have free speech in this country to speak how I feel about my team. You're just force feeding your Isiahsexual ways. We're Knick fans here, you're an Isiahsexual.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Please, Knicks aren't a PRODUCT. I'm dedicated and loyal to this team. You don't support the TEAM, you support Isiah Thomas. All I see is a buch of Isiah love from you. Small improvements? I guess being the 2nd worst team in the NBA to the 4th worst team in the NBA is a small improvement. Sorry, unlike you, I want the BEST for my team. Dolan and Isiah need to resign and go. We need to look to a more brighter future. I have free speech in this country to speak how I feel about my team. You're just force feeding your Isiahsexual ways. We're Knick fans here, you're an Isiahsexual.
    That's real cute. But you are not for the team if all you do is bitch. That's not loyalty. The Knicks are not a product but they do provide a service. They play th sport of basketball for yours and my entertainment. If you don't like it then don't watch! There are good things about this team. You'd see this if you didn't have your head up your ass. Yes yes, free speech, bla bla bla. You can say any thing you want and God bless America. Save that B.S for a political speech. Your good at throwing insults now try to watch a game or two. If the only achievement you can see is that we are a few games better than last year then you don't know the team! You're talking stats and any one can read a stat in NBA.com or ESPN.

    Let’s set the record straight. Thomas isn't the best coach for NY. I'd rather have Lenny Wilkins back. But that **** is neather here nor there.

    BRING_BACK_LARRY_BROWN you represent everything that is wrong with Knicks fans. Cute lil animation now wipe your mouth off. Any one with half a brain can see that Larry Brown tore this team apart with 50 different starting line ups and gave away Ariza for Francis which added to the cap. And this is the goober you side with? Some how you guys twist that into being Thomas' fault. No I'm not a Thomas fan and I never liked the Pistons. But what I do know is that we will start winning this season. If you are a true fan prove it. Stop winning! Stop complaining and root for your team.

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    Originally Posted by BRING_BACK_LARRY_BROWN
    Funny comments coming from a flagrant Isiah Thomas blowjob artist.

    (Isiah Thomas --> <--- donchris)

    By the way ... how is the FEDERAL INVESTIGATION into the Isiah Thomas SEXUAL HARRASSMENT charge going?

    The only thing Isiah Thomas has been SUCCESSFULL at was causing the Knicks and MSG to get hit with a SEXUAL HARRASSMENT LAWSUIT.
    I see your faggot ass likes that fellatio smilie so much is your father not doing you too good so you need another man in your life?

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    Originally Posted by donchris
    That's real cute. But you are not for the team if all you do is bitch. That's not loyalty. The Knicks are not a product but they do provide a service. They play th sport of basketball for yours and my entertainment. If you don't like it then don't watch! There are good things about this team. You'd see this if you didn't have your head up your ass. Yes yes, free speech, bla bla bla. You can say any thing you want and God bless America. Save that B.S for a political speech. Your good at throwing insults now try to watch a game or two. If the only achievement you can see is that we are a few games better than last year then you don't know the team! You're talking stats and any one can read a stat in NBA.com or ESPN.

    Let’s set the record straight. Thomas isn't the best coach for NY. I'd rather have Lenny Wilkins back. But that **** is neather here nor there.

    BRING_BACK_LARRY_BROWN you represent everything that is wrong with Knicks fans. Cute lil animation now wipe your mouth off. Any one with half a brain can see that Larry Brown tore this team apart with 50 different starting line ups and gave away Ariza for Francis which added to the cap. And this is the goober you side with? Some how you guys twist that into being Thomas' fault. No I'm not a Thomas fan and I never liked the Pistons. But what I do know is that we will start winning this season. If you are a true fan prove it. Stop winning! Stop complaining and root for your team.
    No body is bitching, I'm voicing my opinion against Isiah/Dolan/Cablevision terrible managament of my favorite team in the NBA. I don't agree with their decisions, I have the freedom to say logically and reasonably how I disagree with their moves. I don't need to be a homer to be the biggest fan. They're not playing the sport of basketball to win, they're playing the sport of basketball just to make money and sell to the consumer. Obviously there are good things about this team, accually alot of good things. But we are far far away from playoff contention. I've stated many times I'm a fanatic of players like David Lee, Balkman, Richardson, Jefferies, all these players Isiah acquired. I'm not saying all his moves are BAD, but most of his decisions were which lets me label him as a terrible GM, most NBA fans would agree, and most Knick fans from the 90s would agree ago. Go root for the Bobcats and go hope Isiah takes over as the PBO in Charlotte. This is NYC, the MECCA of basketball, we deserve the best team available, Isiah hasn't done that for us. I mean we could of had Ron Artest just for CHANNING FYRE. Could you imagine a line up of Marbury/Richardson/Artest/Lee/Curry? Its little things like that annoys me about Isiah Thomas. I know this TEAM. This team was obviously going to improved a slight bit with having the same players from the 2nd half of last year, the more games you play with the same guys, the more they reconize with each other. We could be so much better though, I want the best for the Knicks, while you settle for garbage. This is what makes me a Knicks fan, and you an Isiahsexual.

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    so talent wise starbury+ franchise are better the billups+rip???

    if that is the case.. ****-talent... i'll take the detroit duo... any day

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    Ok Metro. I see your point but here is mine. This is not a pro Isiah statement. The statement I make now is about chemistry. Brining in another coach next year will hurt this team. They need time to adapt. The problem hiring yet another coach is that the players will then have gone through 3 coaches in three years. How can the players be consistent if they don't have consistent leadership? I'm saying this for Thomas and I even said it for Brown. Frankly NY fans don't deserve jack ****. I've lived up and down the east coast and I've seen how other fans respond to their team. There is no other city in this country that has fans that constantly boo their own team. These are what I call the So Called Fans and guess what, NY is loaded with them. They are the main ones talking about what they deserve and the first to complain when things go wrong. These are the same Fans that booed Patrick Ewing time and time again. As a fan I want to see the Knicks win a championship but I can't say I deserve it. I'm not a player right! I'm not out there working my ass off to win. I'm a fan watching a game. So what do I deserve? Patrick Ewing deserves a ring. Karl Malone deserved a ring. Charles Barkley deserves a ring. Even bitch ass Alonso Mourning deserved a ring. You don't deserve ****! You've got the best team available. Believe it or not we can and will get more for Channing Frye then Ron Artest. I'm not settling for anything. Do you actually think Ronnie would make that much of a difference? WTF is he doing now? We're making the best of a bad situation. Houston is coming off the cap after this season, we've got Curry who is projected to be one day the best center in the league, and five solid draft picks in the last two years. We've got the best bench in the NBA and we are loaded with talent. I can see all of these things despite a bad starting season. This is what makes me a knowledgeable fan and you a lil BITCH!!!

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    Originally Posted by donchris
    Ok Metro. I see your point but here is mine. This is not a pro Isiah statement. The statement I make now is about chemistry. Brining in another coach next year will hurt this team. They need time to adapt. The problem hiring yet another coach is that the players will then have gone through 3 coaches in three years. How can the players be consistent if they don't have consistent leadership? I'm saying this for Thomas and I even said it for Brown. Frankly NY fans don't deserve jack ****. I've lived up and down the east coast and I've seen how other fans respond to their team. There is no other city in this country that has fans that constantly boo their own team. These are what I call the So Called Fans and guess what, NY is loaded with them. They are the main ones talking about what they deserve and the first to complain when things go wrong. These are the same Fans that booed Patrick Ewing time and time again. As a fan I want to see the Knicks win a championship but I can't say I deserve it. I'm not a player right! I'm not out there working my ass off to win. I'm a fan watching a game. So what do I deserve? Patrick Ewing deserves a ring. Karl Malone deserved a ring. Charles Barkley deserves a ring. Even bitch ass Alonso Mourning deserved a ring. You don't deserve ****! You've got the best team available. Believe it or not we can and will get more for Channing Frye then Ron Artest. I'm not settling for anything. Do you actually think Ronnie would make that much of a difference? WTF is he doing now? We're making the best of a bad situation. Houston is coming off the cap after this season, we've got Curry who is projected to be one day the best center in the league, and five solid draft picks in the last two years. We've got the best bench in the NBA and we are loaded with talent. I can see all of these things despite a bad starting season. This is what makes me a knowledgeable fan and you a lil BITCH!!!

    You are right, this team needs to adapt. Isiah isn't the best option as coach though. You support Isiah so much, but how many coaches have we had under Isiah Thomas? From Chaney to Herb Williams to Wilkins to Larry Brown...and now Isiah Thomas, obviously this team won't gain chemistry. Its Isiah's fault for us having so many coaches in here the last 2-3 years. So you make a point, which is AGAINST Isiah. Thanks.

    Knick fans boo their team hard the last 3-4 years cause they haven't gave the city the best basketball. We deserve good basketball, I can't really believe you said Knick fans don't deserve jack ****. Oh well, I remember you're not a fan of the Knicks.

    Ron Artest wouldnt help this team? We've struggled defensively. We give up 102 points per game. Its hard to win games when you give up 102 points per game and you don't have a Phoneix or Denver offense. Artest would help the perimeter defense and give us an energy on both sides of the court we never had before since Sprewell. Artest is also a team captain and brings veteranship to the locker room. He's a tough hard nosed player we could definately use. Anyone can easily choose Artest over Fyre. Fyre is a nice young player, but he's not all star caliber player like Ron Artest. I'm a fan here, but lets be REAL. Artest would hep this team.

    Making the best of a bad situation? Signing Jerome James to a 5 year deal was making the best of a bad situation? Trading Cap space with Penny Hardaway and Trevor Ariza for Steve Francis, a team cancer is making the best of a bad situation? Trading an expiring contract Antonio Davis for Jalen Rose (who we end up waiving) was making the best of a bad situation? Trading Charlie Ward, Eisley, Antonio McDysess who are all expiring contracts which gave Phoneix to cap space to sign the two time MVP of the NBA Steve Nash and Q Rich, plus they got three draft picks in return for Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway two of most overpaid contracts in the NBA was making the best of a bad situation? I could go on and on, but I'm not going to. You don't want to understand how many bad situations Isiah has put the Knicks in. Isiah has made the WORST of a bad situation and this is why I'm not happy with him as the President of Basketball Operattions, nor I do not trust him as a coach. I feel its time to change the front office with Dolan/Isiah/Cablevision and get the right guys in there. But you can't see eye to eye with me that. Its chill thoguh, I could care less. Knick fans will continue to want the best for their team, while you focus on much courage Isiah has. Maybe you'll Isiah's popcorn for Christmas too.

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    Originally Posted by NYK Way
    I see your faggot ass likes that fellatio smilie so much is your father not doing you too good so you need another man in your life?
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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    You are right, this team needs to adapt. Isiah isn't the best option as coach though. You support Isiah so much, but how many coaches have we had under Isiah Thomas? From Chaney to Herb Williams to Wilkins to Larry Brown...and now Isiah Thomas, obviously this team won't gain chemistry. Its Isiah's fault for us having so many coaches in here the last 2-3 years. So you make a point, which is AGAINST Isiah. Thanks.

    Knick fans boo their team hard the last 3-4 years cause they haven't gave the city the best basketball. We deserve good basketball, I can't really believe you said Knick fans don't deserve jack ****. Oh well, I remember you're not a fan of the Knicks.

    Ron Artest wouldnt help this team? We've struggled defensively. We give up 102 points per game. Its hard to win games when you give up 102 points per game and you don't have a Phoneix or Denver offense. Artest would help the perimeter defense and give us an energy on both sides of the court we never had before since Sprewell. Artest is also a team captain and brings veteranship to the locker room. He's a tough hard nosed player we could definately use. Anyone can easily choose Artest over Fyre. Fyre is a nice young player, but he's not all star caliber player like Ron Artest. I'm a fan here, but lets be REAL. Artest would hep this team.

    Making the best of a bad situation? Signing Jerome James to a 5 year deal was making the best of a bad situation? Trading Cap space with Penny Hardaway and Trevor Ariza for Steve Francis, a team cancer is making the best of a bad situation? Trading an expiring contract Antonio Davis for Jalen Rose (who we end up waiving) was making the best of a bad situation? Trading Charlie Ward, Eisley, Antonio McDysess who are all expiring contracts which gave Phoneix to cap space to sign the two time MVP of the NBA Steve Nash and Q Rich, plus they got three draft picks in return for Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway two of most overpaid contracts in the NBA was making the best of a bad situation? I could go on and on, but I'm not going to. You don't want to understand how many bad situations Isiah has put the Knicks in. Isiah has made the WORST of a bad situation and this is why I'm not happy with him as the President of Basketball Operattions, nor I do not trust him as a coach. I feel its time to change the front office with Dolan/Isiah/Cablevision and get the right guys in there. But you can't see eye to eye with me that. Its chill thoguh, I could care less. Knick fans will continue to want the best for their team, while you focus on much courage Isiah has. Maybe you'll Isiah's popcorn for Christmas too.
    There are alot of people that agree with your point about Thomas making things worse I just think for the most part they are wrong and here's why. Jerome James was perhaps the ****tiest of all acquisitions. Yet Thomas traded our only center, Kurt Thomas for Quinten Richardson. At that point Curry wasn't yet available. So Thomas over paid James in order to out bid Washington. It turns out that was a very bad move because James is dead weight. Charley Ward was a bum and needed to be traded as did Eisley and McDysess. The best thing to do is exactly what you said. Let the contracts expire. But there was pressure to win NOW as there always is in NY so talent needed to be brought in.

    Knicks so called fans have booed their own team sense the beginning of the franchise. What ever it is it's not enough unless it's all the way. A real fan is down with the team through thick and thin, good play or bad play. How is a fan going to boo the damn team off the court and then say we deserve a ring. Wow! You just killed their home court advantage. Great job! Now you think you deserver a f#$) ring! I am a Knicks fan and a True fan. I've never booed any Knicks player. Not even Alan Houston and I think he stinks. And yes fans don't deserver jack **** other than seeing a good game. I'll say a fan deserves a ring when he gets his ass up and plays some ball for his team. That fan deserve B.S. is said to sell tickets you simple minded prick! That rederick bull****. Make up your mind. Are you on or off the hate wagon? So Zek should go but he's not a bad coach? WTF are you talking about. This is exactly what I said 5 posts ago and you jumped all over it like a lil gay monkey.
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    Originally Posted by donchris
    There are alot of people that agree with your point about Thomas making things worse I just think for the most part they are wrong and here's why. Jerome James was perhaps the ****tiest of all acquisitions. Yet Thomas traded our only center, Kurt Thomas for Quinten Richardson. At that point Curry wasn't yet available. So Thomas over paid James in order to out bid Washington. It turns out that was a very bad move because James is dead weight. Charley Ward was a bum and needed to be traded as did Eisley and McDysess. The best thing to do is exactly what you said. Let the contracts expire. But there was pressure to win NOW as there always is in NY so talent needed to be brought in.

    Knicks so called fans have booed their own team sense the beginning of the franchise. What ever it is it's not enough unless it's all the way. A real fan is down with the team through thick and thin, good play or bad play. How is a fan going to boo the damn team off the court and then say we deserve a ring. Wow! You just killed their home court advantage. Great job! Now you think you deserver a f#$) ring! I am a Knicks fan and a True fan. I've never booed any Knicks player. Not even Alan Houston and I think he stinks. And yes fans don't deserver jack **** other than seeing a good game. I'll say a fan deserves a ring when he gets his ass up and plays some ball for his team. That fan deserve B.S. is said to sell tickets you simple minded prick! That rederick bull****. Make up your mind. Are you on or off the hate wagon? So Zek should go but he's not a bad coach? WTF are you talking about. This is exactly what I said 5 posts ago and you jumped all over it like a lil gay monkey.
    Alot of logical people agree with me, because I'm speaking with facts here. Jerome James is a 16 minute per game player. Now he's a 6-10 minute per game player. He has 4 years left on his deal, and he's in his 30's already. Its one of the worst signings in NBA history. Jackie Butler was more productive than Jerome James. Isiah really THOUGHT Jerome James could be the starting center of this team at the time we didn't obtain Curry? More to add to his bad GM decisions. Charlie Ward was a decent player who knew how to run the offense decently, he was a good role player. You don't understand why his contract had value. Let me explain to you in the most simple way possible. Charlie Ward has an expiring contract. Expiring Contract = Cap space. McDysess = expiring contract. Eisley = Expiring Contract. Are you really dumb enough to believe Phoneix traded their backcourt of Marbury/Hardaway for the amazing all star talent Howard Eisley, Charlie, and Antonio McDysess? No, they wanted expiring contracts. They wanted to rebuild around Amare, and get cap space to sign free agents. Well, Phoneix got the best out of that deal, and Isiah didn't. This is why Isiah was the LOSER of that trade. Phoneix got the opportunity (thanks to Isiah) to sign the two time MVP of the NBA, Steve Nash and Q-Rich. If it wasn't for Isiah, Phoneix would still have Marbury and Penny Hardaway. This is why Isiah isn't a smart GM, he makes other teams better.

    Oh no...Isiah has PRESSURE, man...you're the biggest Isiahseuxal. You're so focused on the pressure Isiah has to face and how much courage has to put up. You're more focused on Isiah Thomas' left testicle than the New York Knicks.

    You don't know what a real fan is, especially you. You don't have the right to question anyone's indentity of a fan in here, when you show complete bias support to Isiah. You insult anyone who speaks badly about Isiah and claim them Knick haters. I'm a KNICKS FAN, I put the jersey first before anything. You support Isiah primary before anything else concerning basketball. This is why I question your status as a Knicks fan, a man, and your sexuality. Its nothing personal, its just how you present yourself.

    Allan Houston stinks? wow. We have some kid from the Carolinas with a fetish for Isiah covered in popcorn saying Allan Houston stinks in a Knicks forum. Allan Houston was a leader in the locker and on the court. Houston was one of the most prolific scorers in Knicks history. Houston ranks 10th on the NBA's all-time list for career 3pt made. His last-second bank-shot in game 7 against the Heat was one of the most memorable momments for Knick fans in the last decade, and all of the Knicks history. The man averaged 23 ppg with bad legs just on his jumpshot in 2003. Remember that year Houston has limited ability to drive and slash, he got most of his points from midrange which was extremely impressive. Including two 50 point games that season. Sorry, you're crazy or you're filled with alot of HATE. Allan Houston doesnt not stink. He, Sprewell and Camby are some of my favorite Knicks of all time. I'm not going to have some Isiahsexual spread his ignorant hate on memorable Knick players who contributed ALOT to this franchise.

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    Progress Progress Progress. Curry this, Nate that Blah Blah Blah.. on paper where it counts, we are no better than last year! All this crap for the same record we had last year!

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    Originally Posted by Starks
    Progress Progress Progress. Curry this, Nate that Blah Blah Blah.. on paper where it counts, we are no better than last year! All this crap for the same record we had last year!
    I agree, I'm tired of losing with a roster where we're paying players all star-type contracts for 3-5 years. Losing is painful, but losing with the highest payroll in the NBA is more painful cause its embarassment. Please Isiah, go.

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    I understand where you all are coming from...because losing obviously is never in the plans. But it's part of a rebuilding process. No one wants to lose but to get better and to develop your young talent...it's part of the journey. With LB nothing was accomplished, the little development that our rookies did receive was self-motivated. When the rookies played well it seemed as if Brown tested there will by putting them on the bench. Curry didn't develop at all. David Lee barely played...I'm proud of him this year, he's proving why he should have played last year regardless if he was a rookie. This is the problem with the common knick fan including myself we never want to see our team struggle or stink up the place but isiah is doing something that GMs were scared to do in the past...he is rebuilding. With talents such at Nate-Rob, Frye, Curry, Lee, and Jeffries we can build a decent team and then sign a big free agent in a couple of years. But if we fire Isiah what will we accomplish? The only coach I'm for if Isiah gets fired is Herb....if it's not Herb than it will hurt us even more. If we bring an outside coach he's going to play an entirely different game than what Isiah did and it will set us that much further back onto the journey of success. All we are seeing are the L's. Last year we saw L's without progress. This year we are seeing L's with progress. The problem is that this year should have been last year and we should actually be winning this year. But instead LB set us back and now we're stuck in the mud...

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