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    Since we're approaching the all-star break I thought it would be a good time for everybody to give their first half grades on the players, coaching, and team as a whole.

    Marbury- I’ll be the first to admit I'm not much of a Marbury fan but since December he's played extremely well. He's defense has been good and He's been aggressive on offense but not to the point where he hasn't gotten others involved.
    Grade B

    Crawford- Crawford likes normal has been up and down. He's had is great 4th quarters and of course the 50 point game but his defense and decision making has been awful at many points. Despite all his flaws he's still fairly young and has a knack for making big shots.
    Grade C

    Q Rich- Q has definitely shown signs this year. He's our best perimeter defender by far and until recently has really been stroking the 3. As of late he's been in shooting slumps but he's also been battling injuries. My only thing with him is he should post up and drive more. He's extremely strong and can post a lot of two guards when he is playing the 2 spot.
    Grade B-


    Fyre- Disappointing start for Fyre. The first month of the season he was downright awful but since then he's been better, offensively at least. A lot of people bad mouth Curry for not rebounding or playing defense. But Fyre definitely has shown no improvement in either of those areas.
    Grade C -

    Curry- 19.8 ppg 7 bounds. And that’s counting the first month of the season where he played like the Eddy Curry of the past few seasons. Like it or not guys he's a huge part of our future. He's a big time low post presence who commands a double team. Also as of late he's become better at passing out of the post. When we made this trade we all hoped for numbers like this and now he's producing. The defense and rebounding are obviously nowhere near where we need it but he's still young and getting better.
    Grade A-


    David Lee- I really don't even have to explain anything about my grade for him but ill give some reasons. He's our best rebounder, hardest worker, and hustles the most and the list goes on. If he can devolve a mid range jumper we're talking about a future all-star for years to come.
    Grade- A


    Jefferies- what can I say, as of right now he's a bust? He at times has looked completely lost on the court. I knew he wasn’t a great offensive player but he's looked downright pitiful at that end. I'm hoping he can provide us with a defense presence but at this point I'd rather see Balkman take his minutes.
    Grade F

    James- basically what I said for Jeffries goes for James. Total waste of money. Wouldn't Jackie Butler look wonderful playing 8 min a night right now? The only bright spot is at least he's garnering a few minutes these days.
    Grade D -

    Nate- I was a big Nate fan but I’ve definitely soured on him. He's just stupid on the court at times and makes stupid plays, fouls, and shots. Last season and early on this year he was at least giving us a spark of the bench, but since the fight his aggressiveness is gone. He's a good 3 shooter but he's much more dangerous when he drives to the basket.
    Grade C

    Francis- He’s been hurt and its obvious he's nowhere near what he was. Against Utah he played pretty well, but we don't need to be paying this type of money for a backup point guard. Since he's been hurt I won't bother giving him a grade.
    Grade- Inc

    Balkman- when we drafted him my first reaction was who the **** is he? But I’ve been pleasantly surprised. He hustles, rebounds, plays D, and runs the court. He really has no offense other then dunks and put backs but I’m pretty happy with him.


    Cato, Collins, Malik- I really don't have much to say about these guys. Mainly because other then Malik they rarely get minutes. I'd much rather see Cato play then James but I understand the money commitment and why we have to play James over him. I really have no opinion on Collins other then he's a Temple guy who most likely plays good D

    Isiah AS A COACH NOT A GM-
    And I’ll point it out yet again so Metro doesn't try to give me ****. This grade is on the on the court coaching not his general manger duties. I must tell you I have no complaints with his coaching. Were obviously a much better team and we definitely seem to have a sense of unity. I like how he runs the offense through Curry. My only complaint is on the last second shots. But that may be Crawford’s fault for not penetrating.
    B

    The team-

    I know we're not contenders and probably won't be legit contenders for a few years. But I'm happy with this team. We've lost plenty of winnable games but you can definitely see improvement. Just think back to last year this time and how un-watchable this team was.
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    Originally Posted by GetRealistic

    The team-
    I know we're not contenders and probably won't be legit contenders for a few years. But I'm happy with this team. We've lost plenty of winnable games but you can definitely see improvement. Just think back to last year this time and how un-watchable this team was.
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    good post... except for this last para... we are not contenders, and won't be for years... but you are happy???

    we are in cap hell and will be for years to come... interesting that the bobcats salary this year is 39m, 27m next year and 'zero' the following year. now i am not suggesting we go to this extreme, but sure could make things interesting..

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    Originally Posted by paris401
    good post... except for this last para... we are not contenders, and won't be for years... but you are happy???

    we are in cap hell and will be for years to come... interesting that the bobcats salary this year is 39m, 27m next year and 'zero' the following year. now i am not suggesting we go to this extreme, but sure could make things interesting..

    i get what your saying man. I didn't really mean it like that. I"m happy that we're atleast getting improvement. And we deffinately are in cap hell but i think with some smart moves patient moves their is a nuclues to build on here.

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    I agree...this is why Dolan is cutting out any more trades or signings. We don't need anymore changes. There is nothing wrong to make a move here and there to get what you need i.e. a real defensive C....none of this garbage Jerome James stuff. In fact I'd love to see Cato start. He's our best defensive Center and he's a lot more active than James. Some of you might be too young to remember this lol but a while back Cato had to grind out a playoff series against shaq. Ultimately they the Lakers won, but the defense that Cato put on Shaq was tremendous...

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    Good post. I agree about 98%. Not to ride Marbury but I think this season he's really stepped it up and silenced his critics by playing unselfishly. For this reason I'd give him and A but your post and reason for the grade is straight. Regarding Thomas as a GM/Coach, it's almost like you need to grade him twice. As a coach, no question he's solid and brings the best out of the team. As a GM, I'm really not sure. I'd say C or C- maybe but over all B average is right.

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    Thank you. To read a well thought out post that isn't cuss filled is an absolute delight. Isiah risked with Jefferies and James, and though it hasn't been what I'm sure he hoped, there is still hope that these guys can except a role, and learn to excel in it. Thanks again for a great post.

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    Originally Posted by dr.carpy
    Thank you. To read a well thought out post that isn't cuss filled is an absolute delight. Isiah risked with Jefferies and James, and though it hasn't been what I'm sure he hoped, there is still hope that these guys can except a role, and learn to excel in it. Thanks again for a great post.

    there is no hope for jerome... unless u put a burger king under each basket.. as to jefferies i fear he is another disaster, but will withhold final judgement as he has been hurt/suspended/hurt again..

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    Marbury= B+
    Crawford=B
    Curry=A
    Jeffries=D
    Richardson=C+
    Frye=C+
    Robinson=C
    James=F-
    Lee=A+
    Balkman=C
    Collins=F+(because of the low blow move on JR Smith, and he isn't doing good in the training sessions)
    Cato=..dont know
    Francis=D+(I'm expecting more from him since he is being paid so much)
    Ross=D

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    Default First Half Grades

    Marbury= B
    Crawford= C (can`t shoot)
    Curry= B- (Can`t still play defense. Scoring is not a big thing)
    Jeffries= D (disappointment)
    Richardson= C+
    Frye= C- (He is young. He needs time to develop.)
    Robinson= F (He behaves like 10 years old boy)
    James=F- (I would love to have his job. No performance but a lot of money. I like it)
    Lee= A+ (In my opinon he is the future of the franchise. I love his game.
    Balkman= D- (Bad draft decision)
    Collins= F- (Bad draft decision)
    Cato= (Garbage Player)
    Francis= F
    Rose= F (We don`t need him anymore)

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    Originally Posted by Musa
    Marbury= B
    Crawford= C (can`t shoot)
    Curry= B- (Can`t still play defense. Scoring is not a big thing)
    Jeffries= D (disappointment)
    Richardson= C+
    Frye= C- (He is young. He needs time to develop.)
    Robinson= F (He behaves like 10 years old boy)
    James=F- (I would love to have his job. No performance but a lot of money. I like it)
    Lee= A+ (In my opinon he is the future of the franchise. I love his game.
    Balkman= D- (Bad draft decision)
    Collins= F- (Bad draft decision)
    Cato= (Garbage Player)
    Francis= F
    Rose= F (We don`t need him anymore)
    Good grades. I kinda thought the same

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    Marbury
    Improved offensive facilitator, improved defense and much better leader than previously in his career... this is what LB wanted out of him... glad Isiah could coax this performance from him... more critical to our success than most people give him credit for
    B+

    Crawford
    Makes boneheaded decisions with the ball... but is insanely brilliant at times... his inconsistency keeps him from being a superstar...
    B-

    Curry
    Said this before... lousy defense, bad passing, sub par rebounding... however... he's growing game to game and may very well be an A before the season's out...
    B+/B

    Jeffries
    Someone should have told JJ that #20 usually gets reviled in NY... add that to the fact that he can't defend, rebound or score (so far) and you see why he scores so low...
    D

    Richardson
    In a shooting slump currently... but he's a good defender, excellent rebounder and hard worker...
    B

    Frye
    Good shooting big man... can spread the floor giving Curry, Marbury and Crawford more room to manuever... has similar holes as curry (defense, rebounding)... but is a better passer...
    C+

    Robinson
    Needs to grow the hell up... not as bad as some people think... but if Isiah can get him to buy into the system... could be a spark plug off the bench...
    C-

    James
    This was a bad idea when I heard Isiah talking about signing him after good 6 game series in Seattle (where he outplayed an injured Tim Duncan)... it's an even worse idea to watch him play...
    F--

    Lee
    Hustle... Rebounding... Heart... Energy... Enthusiasm... he reminds me of Camby without the defensive ability... a wee bit overrated I think... but definately a buidling block for the franchise...
    B+

    Balkman
    Same comments as Lee... except he's a better defender and less polished offensively... however, this kid's future is bright...
    C-

    Collins
    Haven't seen enough of him to grade him...
    INC

    Cato
    I would play him ahead of either of the JJs...
    D

    Francis
    Hasn't done anything since becoming a knick... just chashing checks...
    D-

    Rose
    Could be productive... but we don't use him enough... would play him more than the JJ twins... but not Cato...
    D-

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    Over rated? wow never heard that one before... What makes you say Lee's a wee bit overrated??

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