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    Default Last 7 seasons of the Knicks graphed out

    http://home.comcast.net/~newyorker200/nykplots.jpg

    It starts out with the Ewing trade and ends in the 06-07 season.

    2000-2001

    09/20/2000 - TRADE - Ewing, Dudley, 2001 1st round Pick -- for --- Longley, Rice, Knight, Maxwell, Stepania, Borrell, 2001 1st round pick, two 2001 2nd round picks, 2002 1st round pick.
    *
    11/19/2000 - INJURY - Camby Out - 7-4 (+3)
    11/30/2000 - 9-7 (-1)
    12/30/2000 - RETURN - Camby In 19-12
    12/30/2000 - 19-12 (+5)
    01/30/2001 - 26-16 (+3)
    01/30/2001 - TRADE - 2001 1st round pick, 2001 2nd round pick -- for -- Othella Harrington, Erick Strickland. - 26-16
    02/22/2001 - 31-22 (-1)
    02/22/2001 - TRADE - Chris Childs, 2002 1st round pick, -- for -- Mark Jackson, Muggsy Bogues - 31-22
    02/30/2001 - 33-23 (+1)
    03/30/2001 - 42-30 (+2)
    04/13/2001 - INJURY - Camby Out 47-32 (+3)
    04/30/2001 - 48-34 (-1)
    05/30/2001 - 2-3 (-1) - PLAYOFF

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    2001-2002

    07/18/2001 - TRADE - Clarence Weatherspoon aquired FA
    08/10/2001 - TRADE - Rice, Bogues -- for -- Anderson, Eisley
    *
    10/29/2001 - INJURY - Camby Out - 0-0 (+/- 0)
    11/26/2001 - RETURN - Camby In - 7-8 (-1)
    11/30/2001 - 8-8 (+1)
    12/08/2001 - 11-9 (+2)
    12/08/2001 - RESIGNED - Jeff Van Gundy - 11-9
    12/10/2001 - SIGNED - Don Chaney
    12/30/2001 - 13-17 (-6)
    01/30/2002 - 18-25 (-3)
    02/02/2002 - INJURY - Camby Out 18-26 (-1)
    02/30/2002 - 20-35 (-7)
    03/25/2002 - INJURY - Houston Out - 26-43 (-2)
    03/30/2002 - 27-45 (-1)
    04/02/2002 - RETURN - Houston In - 28-45 (+1)
    04/30/2002 - 30-52 (-5)



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    2002-2003


    06/26/2002 - TRADE - McDyess, Frank Williams, 2003 2nd round pick -- for -- Camby, Mark Jackson, Nene
    *
    10/29/2002 - EXTENDED - Don Chaney 1 year - 0-0 (+/- 0)
    11/30/2002 - 4-10 (-6)
    12/30/2002 - 10-17 (-1)
    01/30/2003 - 20-25 (+2)
    02/30/2003 - 25-33 (-3)
    03/30/2003 - 32-42 (-2)
    04/15/2003 - EXTENDED - Don Chaney 2 years 37-44
    04/30/2003 - 37-45 (+2)

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    2003-2004

    06/11/2003 - INJURY - Allan Houston surgery.
    07/23/2003 - TRADE - Latrell Sprewell -- for -- Keith Van Horn
    10/09/2003 - TRADE - Dikembe Mutombo FA
    11/30/2003 - 7-10 (-3)
    12/06/2003 - INJURY - Houston Out - 7-14 (-4)
    12/10/2003 - RETURN - Houston In - 7-16 (-2)
    12/22/2003 - FIRED - Scott Layden
    12/22/2003 - HIRED - Isiah Thomas - 10-18 (+1)
    12/30/2003 - TRADE - Weatherspoon -- for -- Norris, Amechi
    12/30/2003 - 14-19 (+3)
    [B]01/05/2004 - TRADE - McDyess, Eisley, Lampe, Ward, Milos, 2004 1st round pick, future 1st round pick -- for -- Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway - 14-21 (-2)
    01/14/2004 - FIRED - Don Chaney
    01/14/2004 - HIRED - Lenny Wilkens - 15-24 (-2)
    01/30/2004 - INJURY - Houston Out
    01/30/2004 - 22-27 (+4)
    02/15/2004 - TRADE - Keith Van Horn -- for -- Tim Thomas, Nazr - 25-29 (+1)
    02/29/2004 - RETURN - Houston In
    02/30/2004 - 26-35 (-5)
    03/19/2004 - INJURY - Houston Out - 32-37 (+4)
    03/29/2004 - RETURN - Houston In
    03/30/2004 - 35-40 (+/- 0)
    04/17/2004 - INJURY - Houston Out
    04/30/2004 - 39-43 (+1)
    05/30/2004 - 0-4 (-4) PLAYOFF

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    2004-2005

    08/05/2004 - TRADE - Deke, Othella, FWill -- for -- Crawford, JYD
    *
    11/01/2004 - INJURY - Houston Out - 0-0 (+/- 0)
    11/30/2004 - 7-6 (+1)
    12/08/2004 - RETURN - Houston In - 9-9 (-1)
    12/23/2004 - INJURY - Crawford Out - 13-13 (+/- 0)
    12/30/2004 - 16-13 (+3)
    01/17/2005 - RETURN - Crawford In - 17-20 (-6)
    01/21/2005 - INJURY - Houston Out
    01/22/2005 - FIRED - Lenny Wilkens - 17-22 (-2)
    01/22/2005 - HIRED - Herb Williams
    01/30/2005 - 18-26 (-3)
    02/24/2005 - TRADE - Nazr, Jamison -- for -- Malik, 2005 1st rounder, 2006 1st rounder
    02/24/2005 - TRADE - Baker, Norris -- for -- Taylor - 22-33 (-3)
    02/30/2005 - 24-33 (+2)
    03/30/2005 - 29-41 (-3)
    04/30/2005 - 33-49 (-4)

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    2005-2006


    06/25/2005 - TRADE - Kurt Thomas -- for -- Quentin Richardson, Nate Robinson
    07/28/2005 - HIRED - Larry Brown
    08/02/2005 - SIGNED - Jerome James MLE
    10/04/2005 - TRADE - Tim Thomas, Sweetney, 2006 1st round pick, 2007 1st round pick swap, 2007 2nd round pick, 2009 2nd round pick -- for -- Eddy Curry, Antonio Davis, 2007 1st round pick swap.
    *
    11/30/2005 - 5-9 (-4)
    12/06/2005 - INJURY - QRich Out - 6-11 (-1)
    12/12/2005 - RETURN - QRich In - 6-14 (-3)
    12/30/2005 - INJURY - QRich Out
    12/30/2005 - 7-21 (-6)
    01/06/2006 - INJURY - Crawford Out - 9-21 (+2)
    01/08/2006 - RETURN - QRich In - 10-21 (+1)
    01/10/2006 - RETURN - Crawford In - 11-21 (+1)
    01/18/2006 - INJURY - Marbury Out - 13-24 (-1)
    01/25/2006 - RETURN - Marbury In - 13-27 (-3)
    01/30/2006 - 14-30 (-2)
    02/03/2006 - TRADE - Antonio Davis -- for -- Jalen Rose, 2006 1st round pick - 14-31 (-1)
    02/03/2006 - INJURY - Marbury Out
    02/22/2006 - TRADE - Penny, Ariza -- for -- Steve Francis - 15-38 (-6)
    02/22/2006 - RETURN - Marbury In
    02/30/2006 - 15-41 (-3)
    03/15/2006 - INJURY - QRich Out - 18-45 (-1)
    03/21/2006 - RETURN - QRich In - 19-47 (-1)
    03/22/2006 - INJURY - Frye Out - 19-48 (-1)
    03/24/2006 - INJURY - QRich Out - 19-49 (-1)
    03/30/2006 - 19-52 (-3)
    04/02/2006 - INJURY - Marbury Out - 19-53 (-1)
    04/30/2006 - 23-59 (-2)


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    2006-2007

    08/07/2006 - SIGNED - Jared Jeffries MLE
    *
    11/25/2006 - INJURY - Frye Out - 5-10 (-5)
    11/30/2006 - 6-11 (+/- 0)
    12/11/2006 - RETURN - Jared Jeffries - 8-15 (-2)
    12/16/2006 - INJURY - QRich Out - 9-17 (-1)
    12/16/2006 - RETURN - Frye In
    12/18/2006 - BRAWL - Jeffries, Collins, Nate, James = Suspended - 10-17 (+1)
    12/29/2006 - REINSTATED - Jared Jeffries - 13-19 (+1)
    12/30/2006 - 13-20 (-1)
    01/02/2007 - REINSTATED - Mardy Collins - 13-21 (-1)
    01/10/2007 - RETURN - QRich In - 16-21 (+2)
    01/10/2007 - REINSTATED - Nate Robinson
    01/30/2007 - 20-28 (-3)
    01/30/2007 - INJURY - QRich Out
    02/03/2007 - RETURN - QRich In - 21-28 (+1)
    02/25/2007 - INJURY - Lee Out - 25-32 (+/- 0)
    02/27/2007 - INJURY - Crawford Out - 26-32 (+1)
    02/30/2007 - 26-33 (-1)
    03/09/2007 - INJURY - QRich Out
    03/10/2007 - 8th Seed - 29-34 (+2)
    03/30/2007 - 31-42 (-6)
    04/07/2007 - INJURY - Marbury Out - 32-44 (-1)
    04/30/2007 - 33-49 (-4)


    As you see, we had a playoff team in 2004-05...what if Isiah didn't make any deals after that. Let the expiring contracts expire. Saved all his draft picks, and let the team develop and get out of a cap hell. WHAT IF...don't you love the ifs?

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    What a herrible trade Camby, Nene, and Jackson. for Mcdyess and Frank Willams. wow.

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    what if amare stoudamire was drafted and got the chance to play alongside camby?

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    damn wat happened to frank williams, i liked em, he was pretty good, i saw em in chicago, looked kinda overweight

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    WHAT IFS are always a bitch in the big apple... what if starks could hit a shot... what if charles smith could make a basket... what if ewing's layup didn't roll out... we absolutely be a better team today if IT didn't make any moves... but this is where we're stuck... we should get jerry west ASAP... but i doubt IT would stay on as just coach/GM... i would like to see him keep coaching... but let someone else control the pen...

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    Originally Posted by ShairanXIII
    WHAT IFS are always a bitch in the big apple... what if starks could hit a shot... what if charles smith could make a basket... what if ewing's layup didn't roll out... we absolutely be a better team today if IT didn't make any moves... but this is where we're stuck... we should get jerry west ASAP... but i doubt IT would stay on as just coach/GM... i would like to see him keep coaching... but let someone else control the pen...
    Man, did you die or something? You were a big Isiahsexual.



    MSGKnickz33, what if my friend. Knicks could of been an elite NBA team if it wasn't ran by idiots.

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    When Layden was Fired, and the throne went to Isiah Thomas his first move should've been a long discussion conference with Head Coach Don Chaney and Assistant Coach Herb Williams about the keepers on the roster and how to get a better success of the rotation he was using.
    Isiah Thomas was suposed to give Coach Don Chaney the rest of that season, plus untill the last week before the February 14 trading deadline to make his first trade using the Knicks five expiring contracts.

    If the inherited Layden roster was as bad as Isiah Thomas said it was he should have let it lead the Knicks to a LOTTERY Pick that season.
    He would have had plenty of time that season to think of a decent Head Coach with a plan, a MLE FA, and two decent draft picks in the offseason.

    Out of all the trades Isiah Thomas made in the last 4 years he still have not come up with a better pair of Guards than "Allan Houston & Ward", or a better Bigman lineup than Mutombo, Doleac, Mcdyess, Kurt Thomas, and KVH...

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    Y DIRINT WE DRAFT AMARE?!!? and Mcdyess was bound 2 be and all star...BUT he got injured >_>

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    **** Amare, not drafting Artest set us back 50 years. Not drafting Bynum ****ed us up too.

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