Since when does a guy's personal life have anything to do with basketball? Anthony Mason as I recall got into tons of ****ing trouble in and around NYC...yet people especially KNICK fans love him. Patrick Ewing frequented strip clubs constantly...Lawrence Taylor had drug problems coming out the ass..so did Micheal Ray Richardson......just saying it's really kind of half assed to judge a man passed of a few mistakes in his personal life. He made a mistake damn, let's not re-live it.
Domestic Violence is easy to get into, these days you just verbally argue loud enough with your woman that can be construed as domestic violence. Did it say he constantly abused her? NO. He hit her once....to be blunt that could be any man on this site one time after she pushes too many of your buttons after an very very difficult day..not saying he should have hit her...but **** happens..plain and simple.
I don't see a difference between a man hitting a woman, or a woman constantly slapping the face of a man which by the way seems to be perfectly acceptable in society...but the other way around..seems to cause the most havoc with people's personal opinions. I say if it's socially acceptable for her to hit him, the reverse must hold true. End of story, we are supposed to be equals now...let women grow the **** up. You hit him, and he has more power and a better shot..should hit someone in your own weight class it's that simple. No one should be allowed to hit anyone at all for any reason period. But most men become pussies because it's a woman...and for no other reason deem it to be wrong, then we wonder why there is no full on equality.
But anyway...I would trade for him just not David Lee.
Happy 4th I'm going to get something to eat.
I would rather geranld wallace than artest...
exactly how can the knicks get much worse? the last 2 years havent been mediocre, let alone anything near respectable.....we should have drafted him out of st johnsto begin with....hes a knucklehead, but who knows what happens when you dont get trapped in indiana for years on end....
I agree getting Artest would be HUGE, and give the Knicks one of the meanest front courts in the NBA, but giving up David Lee, who is just coming into his own, is just not worth it. Who's to say DLee won't become a monster unto himself? Jeffries, Nate, Rose, Morris for Artest = OK.
Thanks ShairanXIII for confirming what I've said previously about Artest Vs Wallace. I believe the same thing . If Artest was coachable, he'd be Gerald Wallace. Wallace put up stat stuffing numbers on the Bobcats. With Okafor and May constantly injured, Wallace has been the only bright spot on that roster. The numbers don't lie. When compared to Artest he is ahead. Why would the Knicks would want to babysit another adult (Zach may need this service) is beyond me. Wallace has zero concerns about him. With his style of play, he would probably add 2 more assists a game with Curry and Randolph down low. Balkman is deloping his outside shot. He is working out at
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He and Jared Jefferies are there together. The fact remains I can't wait for summer league to see what they've achieved.
However, with Artest, I personally think that ship has sailed. To try and bring him in would be difficult.
let's not get caught up in artest's immense talent when gerald wallace is available... younger... and doesn't have any head problems...
problem is gerald is a FA and we dont have cap room, while ron we can trade for now. if he comes as a FA hed have to take the mle pretty much, i can see him doing that i guess but finances are an issue. i think a trade with jeffries or rose and a youngster is doable as long as lee or balkman arent thrown in.
"Screw the Zach Randolph Trade"
Gerald Wallace is what Balkman will be in a few years. Ron Artest is someone that can fit the bill until Balkman can take over the reigns. People can say everything they want in regards to his off the court issues, but as has been eluded to already, everyone has skeletons in their closets. As far as Artest letting his off the court issues affect his play, i'm sorry I didn't catch that one. When did his OFF THE COURT issues affect his play on the court?
Looking at the infractions that Artest has had on the court, only the Detroit fight was truly f'd up. THe flagrant fouls and mouthing off at oppossing coaches and the like are things that only the New NBA frowns upon. I personally love that ****. 'OH you think you coming and dunking on me... how bout i throw your azz to the floor' thats the kind of thinking I want the Knicks to have. Yea a flagrant but the balls are hanging through the shorts and onto the court dragging as Artest and the rest of the Knicks jog back up the court.
The knicks will need someone who can spark a fire not only onto himself but the rest of the team... Artest could be that individual
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