Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18

Thread: Can we finally make it now?

  1. #1
    Member NYKnicks20's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    ON
    Posts
    71
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Can we finally make it now?

    Bringing in Zach Randolph was a good move, even though I'll miss Channing Frye. It's not a good trade for the long run, but for now that's alright.

    What I am worried about is defense. We never had trouble on offense besides bad shooting, now we have a good perimeter shooter who's automatic from 19 feet and in.

    Wilson Chandler was a good move, you all were spot on and you knew Thomas was going to draft him.

    We have a good nucleous of offensive talent. But can they play defense? Defense gives you easy points on the other end. And with this team, you don't need to worry about points.

    Are we all mature enough now to be consistent on a daily bases? We need 100% consistent for 82 games of the season.

    I like this team alot, but the doubts on defense keeps haunting me.

  2. #2
    Superstar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    519
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    "**** the Zach Randolph trade"
    Can they make it now to where? Championship no! Conference finals NO!.. The playoffs yes, but they could have made it last year as well if they weren't hit with the injuries. I personally don't like the Chandler pick only because now the Knicks have 5 small forwards. they are still mising crucial pieces that will assist them in getting better. Who knows what the rest of the post season has in store, but as it stands right now the knicks are a possible 2nd round playoff team
    Last edited by lilman_bklyn; Jul 05, 2007 at 01:35.

  3. #3
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Philly
    Posts
    955
    Rep Power
    11

    Default

    5 small forwards? jeffries balkman chandler q is really a sg. whose the fifth? nichols?

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    255
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by pyotrveliky
    5 small forwards? jeffries balkman chandler q is really a sg. whose the fifth? nichols?
    The thing about our SF's are they can play other positions. Jefferies 3,4,5,and 2 if we really needed 2. Balkman 3,2,4. Chandler 3 and 4 (Where he'd play @ his best) Q-3 or 2. Nichols 3 or 2.

  5. #5
    Superstar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    519
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    "**** the Zach Randolph trade"
    5 small forwards are the ones mentioned, and with the exception of Q-Rich and possibly balkman, none have proven they can play any other postion. Jefferies can only play the 3, frm what we saw last season, he would get abused at the 4 and blown away at the 2. chandler and Nichols have yet to play a game in the NBA, but from what they have said about them, their primary positions are 3's in college o lets not go assuming 6'8 dudes can automatically go and play 2
    Last edited by lilman_bklyn; Jul 05, 2007 at 12:30.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    255
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    According to scouting reports, Chandler would be a Great shotblocker if he played in the paint.

  7. #7
    Veteran nyk_nyk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    3,529
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    The playoffs yes, but they could have made it last year as well if they weren't hit with the injuries.

    Agree %100 that the Knicks could have and should have made the playoffs last season, but unfortunatlely injuries and awful play doomed us in the end. This current roster is definitley good enough to make the playoffs without a doubt. Everyone should look for Q to be healthy coming into the season and performing at a high level because he is our wild card. No one is really worried about any other position. If the Knicks can just play decent defense it will take this team places.

  8. #8
    is the Bo$$ Toons's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Bahamas
    Posts
    2,379
    Rep Power
    13

    Default

    The randolph trade was definitely an upgrade. Our team is pretty solid to make it to the finals.....i definitely think that our team can see the cavs in 7. Think of it, last year curry scored through tripple teams...y do we need a super small foward to knock down midrange if we have randolph? thomas said that curry is developing his midrange, so if randolph gets it down low, if he's doubled, curry can make a 15 footer....i love our team as it stands. We have the best 4-5 tandem in the east. if we can get either artest, gerald wallace, or mo peterson, without giving up lee, balkman we are perfect. I dont see dickou and jones staying long, i think zeke has them as trade pieces

  9. #9
    Superstar The 1 and Only's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    995
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    We still need perimeter shooting...midrange shooting isn't going to be enough when getting double teamed. The midrange can easily be defended since it is only a couple of steps from the post but we need a legit three point shooter at the SF. If not Randolph and Curry are constantly going to get doubled teamed since we can't make them pay with open 3s.

  10. #10
    Next season, keep waiting donchris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Raleigh NC
    Posts
    1,689
    Rep Power
    12

    Nyk Logo

    You can't shut down Randolph and Curry unless David Robinson makes a come back with Duncan. As long as they learn to pass out of double teams we'll be straight. Right now we've still got Crawford Richardson and Marbury. I know how every one feels about Crawford but he will get less touches and will make better shots. If we keep him that is.

  11. #11
    Superstar ShairanXIII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    501
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    and steph's 3 point shooting did improve last season... give this squad a chance to play before condemning it...

  12. #12
    Superstar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    519
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    "**** the Zach Randolph Trade"

    I don't have to give a team a chance to know **** aint right. I still can't believe you guys don't see what I am seeing. I feel like i'm on the titanic I see the iceberg & i'm trying to warn the capt. and every1 who will listen but you guys go on partying thinking everything is cool.
    I'm going to say this plain and simple... When Curry was double teamed for the majority of the season, that second defender was not a power forward. So you guys who think curry is going to get doubled and kick it out to Zach, guuess what, that dude is gonna be covered by whoeva the **** is guarding him. so, no open shots for him.
    Now I want to run something else by you guys. I really, truly want you to be honest and objective when answering... Do you guys remember last seasons team? Did you watch any games? If the answer is yes to both then I want you to answer this, WHAT IN THE ****, DID THE KNICKS COACHES SHOW YOU LAST YEAR, THAT WOULD MAKE YOU BELIEVE THEY WILL HAVE ANY KIND OF PLAYS TO CALL THAT WILL BENEFIT BOTH CURRY AND RANDOLPH? They don't play calls. That is not the kind of team they are. If the knicks ran a well oiled play calling team, they would have won at least 10 more games. so now all of a sudden after one off season, they are going to learn how ot make it work where 2 big azz post players can play and dominate together?

  13. #13
    Member GiantsKnickFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    104
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Listen, isiah has coached a team to the playoffs b4, its not like this is his 1st go around.
    And if eddie is double teamed then Randolph will see open shots, he plays the same position as frye, and wasnt frye open all day and night for his jumpers?
    Its called ball rotation. Move the ball side to side. Thats it. Saying that doubling curry and randolph wont be open makes absolutely no basketball sense. If curry is doubled by the center and the SG then jamal would be open for the 3 or to penetrate, forcing the next defender to rotate leaving one player open for a quick shot. Who? the PF or SF. at times frye would be open, at times it would be jj/q/balkman etc. With randolph being a PROVEN scorer in this league (23/10 if u didnt notice) PFs wont be as quick to leave him to rotate to the other guy. It happens all the time. That means more open looks for jamal and whoever is playing SF.
    its 5on5 basketball lilman, do the math.

  14. #14
    Superstar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    519
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Originally Posted by GiantsKnickFan
    Listen, isiah has coached a team to the playoffs b4, its not like this is his 1st go around.
    And if eddie is double teamed then Randolph will see open shots, he plays the same position as frye, and wasnt frye open all day and night for his jumpers?
    Its called ball rotation. Move the ball side to side. Thats it. Saying that doubling curry and randolph wont be open makes absolutely no basketball sense. If curry is doubled by the center and the SG then jamal would be open for the 3 or to penetrate, forcing the next defender to rotate leaving one player open for a quick shot. Who? the PF or SF. at times frye would be open, at times it would be jj/q/balkman etc. With randolph being a PROVEN scorer in this league (23/10 if u didnt notice) PFs wont be as quick to leave him to rotate to the other guy. It happens all the time. That means more open looks for jamal and whoever is playing SF.
    its 5on5 basketball lilman, do the math.
    "**** the Zach Randolph Trade"
    Okay so that is your position on the matter, and I will take it that you are being objective and honest. that's good. But again I want to ask if you were watching games . Listen, the reason why Channing was open was because more or less this past seasonhe was a jump shooter. And again I want to point out that the majority of the points that zach randolph scores are in the paint, this is where he is most dangerous. If the knicks make him a jump shooter solely, i'm sure all knick opponents will be thrilled @ that. But again I bring up play calling. the theory you provided was all well and dandy, but that is not what the knicks have shown . I do believe Curry will be a better passer this upcoming season, but at the same time, if no plays are ran where does the benefit come in?

    P.S. What dies Zeke having coached a playoff team have to do with anything? He also won wo nba championships...AND?

  15. #15
    Member IcEWaTEr123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    287
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Originally Posted by The 1 and Only
    We still need perimeter shooting...midrange shooting isn't going to be enough when getting double teamed. The midrange can easily be defended since it is only a couple of steps from the post but we need a legit three point shooter at the SF. If not Randolph and Curry are constantly going to get doubled teamed since we can't make them pay with open 3s.
    i agree.. with curry and randolph get doubled the knicks need a solid 3 point shooter to knock those shots down and i think that guy is nichols.. if the knicks could knock down the 3 wen curry and randolph get doubled the knicks will make the playoffs

Similar Threads

  1. Isiah Must Make Trade to Save His Job
    By furious lord in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: Dec 18, 2006, 19:35
  2. Yes!!!!!!!! Finally he's gone!
    By Knicks_fan_4_eva92 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Oct 30, 2005, 01:00
  3. Replies: 12
    Last Post: Sep 16, 2005, 19:54
  4. Will the Knicks make a trade before the season starts?
    By portega1968 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: Aug 31, 2005, 16:36
  5. FINALLY
    By Skyhi300 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: Jan 29, 2005, 23:03

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •