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    1. Kidd (Could play in ANY sytem and do what he does)
    2. LaBron James (If he played PG 82 games he would be the Best PG in the NBA)
    3. Nash (Kind've iffy on him cause of the system he plays in)
    4. Parker (Bling Bling)
    5. Deron Williams (He almost avg. 10asts in his 2nd yr OMG!!!)
    6. Billups(He's getting older)
    7. B Diddy (Can carry a team)
    8. Steph (He'll prove me right next season)
    9. Paul (Dude can Ball)
    10. Ford (If he wasn't injury prone he'd be top 5)

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    Jason Kidd had microfracture surgery in July 1, 2004. Since then, he's only managed to put up 28 more triple doubles. That is the combined total of these players career totals:

    Steve Nash 3
    Kevin Garnett 14
    Lebron James 10

    Now I think I made my point. Feel free to leave a rep point cause this discussion should be over. Jason Kidd is the best PG in the league. As for leadership J Kidd takes based on the fact he got his team to the NBA finals, something Nash has never done. He's still amongst the league leaders in steals as a PG. Oh by the way, this year in the playoffs Jason Kidd averaged a triple double.

    2007 Playoffs Statistics
    PPG 14.6 RPG 10.90 APG 10.9

    after this I should be sitting at at least 10 points. (IMHO, LOL)

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    Marbury doesn't even make my top 10.


    1.) Gary Payton-- Will be a HOF'er...outstanding offensive/defensive player every single season for well over a decade...role player now...but he to me has been the best PG overall for quite some time when he was in his prime. Championship ring gets him over.

    2.) Jason Kidd-- number 2 only to Payton. Great hustler, great passer, steady handed. Triple double kingpin. Led team to Finals what 2x? another HOF'er with Payton.

    3.) Tony Parker... he himself has won 3 championships in 5 years...he's got to be doing something right, not to mention 1 Finals MVP.

    4.) Baron Davis---can play all phases of the game..offense, passing, scoring...get's over looked because of injuries last few years.

    5.) Steve Nash-- same as Baron..cept plays no defense...but he hustles his ass off, and without him the Suns fizzle out.

    6.) Mike Bibby- led his team to several playoff appearances. Always a key member. Just ran into much better LA teams when he had his best chance to win a title. One of the most consistent to ever play. And started every game of his career.

    7.) Sam Cassell- everywhere he has gone. He was won..maybe not a title but playoff appearances. When healthy 100% and in the playoffs few are better than him. Constantly overlooked, and underrated.

    8.) Gilbert Arenas-- would rank him higher but not starting for I think 2 seasons holds him back on my list. But his talent is bananas.


    9.) Chris Paul-- the engine that runs NO. Period. He very well could be the next Oscar Robertson with his talent level. He could very well pull off averaging a triple double for one season.


    10.) Derron Willams- has the killer instinct, can set up teammates, hit the 3, drive the lane. Can do it all...he works on his D...could be the next GP minus the trash talking.

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    Thank you. Y'all must be smokin' dat goody good to put Marbury anywhere near the top ten PG's in the NBA. At least 16 PG's are better because those teams make the playoffs. Can you Imagine Marbury on Dallas or Phoenix?? Yeah he is buried on the bench and only gets mop up minutes. Marbury had a better season last year than I thought but to put him anywhere near the top ten PG's in the league buy any rank but salary is a joke. Top 10 point guards LEAD their teams into the playoffs instead of riding the pine down the stretch with a towel on the thier head. Look how Baron Davis played in the playoffs hurt and lead his team to an improbable upset. You can't even put Baron and Marbury in the same sentence. I'm a true Knicks fan but damn, Marbury might not even be the best PG on the team, let alone top ten in the league.

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    Originally Posted by jimkcchief88
    Thank you. Y'all must be smokin' dat goody good to put Marbury anywhere near the top ten PG's in the NBA. At least 16 PG's are better because those teams make the playoffs. Can you Imagine Marbury on Dallas or Phoenix?? Yeah he is buried on the bench and only gets mop up minutes. Marbury had a better season last year than I thought but to put him anywhere near the top ten PG's in the league buy any rank but salary is a joke. Top 10 point guards LEAD their teams into the playoffs instead of riding the pine down the stretch with a towel on the thier head. Look how Baron Davis played in the playoffs hurt and lead his team to an improbable upset. You can't even put Baron and Marbury in the same sentence. I'm a true Knicks fan but damn, Marbury might not even be the best PG on the team, let alone top ten in the league.
    maybe you 2 should start smokin that good stuff to help your cataracts out. because if u dont think a player with a 11 year career average of 19.9ppg and 7.9 apg doesnt fit any where in your top 10 then you're either dumb or blind as hell. 'possibly not the best pg on the team'??? watch sum games u so called fans then your allowed to have an opinion that counts.

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    1.) Sebastian Telfair
    2.) Smush Parker
    3.) Marcus Banks
    4.) Eric Snow
    5.) Jordan Farmar
    6.) Luke Ridnour
    7.) Damon Jones
    8.) Shaun Livingston
    9.) Steve Francis
    10. Jameer Nelson

    ...cough...cough...That's some good sh*t dude...

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    Originally Posted by sxmarbury516
    maybe you 2 should start smokin that good stuff to help your cataracts out. because if u dont think a player with a 11 year career average of 19.9ppg and 7.9 apg doesnt fit any where in your top 10 then you're either dumb or blind as hell. 'possibly not the best pg on the team'??? watch sum games u so called fans then your allowed to have an opinion that counts.
    Been watchin' Marbury play since his days at GT. How old were you then??? Even in middle school yet??? I doubt it. I know that Marbury is a hometown boy and all that but seriously the rest of the basketball country would double over laughing while reading this thread. You and me have been over this before and I hate beating dead horses so I am through here but rest assured when the KNICKS get some real backcourt talent besides has beens and never beens the rest of the KNICK fans that don't get the games for FREE while start watching again.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    1.) Sebastian Telfair
    2.) Smush Parker
    3.) Marcus Banks
    4.) Eric Snow
    5.) Jordan Farmar
    6.) Luke Ridnour
    7.) Damon Jones
    8.) Shaun Livingston
    9.) Steve Francis
    10. Jameer Nelson

    ...cough...cough...That's some good sh*t dude...
    I just laughed my food up looking at this list. lol

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    Originally Posted by nyk_nyk
    I just laughed my food up looking at this list. lol
    yea same here dude lol

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    The most productive PG's are

    1. Kidd(All around)
    2. Nash(Most valuable)
    3. Arenas(Best scoring)

    These two guys are the future of the PG position in the NBA, they're both at the same level. Paul is underrated. Hornets were banged up, but like I said before, injuries are part of the game
    4. Paul
    5. Williams

    These two guys are some of the most productive/talented offensive PG's you can find in the NBA, both has similar styles, both strong PG's that can pass and score.
    6. Marbury
    7. Davis

    These are winning PG's who had their sucess in the playoffs.
    8. Parker(playing with Duncan helps, Parker is still a great PG)
    9. Billups

    He's overrated a big, solid defender.
    10. Hinrich
    I'd put AI at #4 and switch 6 & 7... but otherwise... I co-sign...

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    The fact some of you did not even mention Gary Payton is astonishing...head to head in their primes...GP atleast 3x better than Marbury.

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    Originally Posted by jimkcchief88
    Thank you. Y'all must be smokin' dat goody good to put Marbury anywhere near the top ten PG's in the NBA. At least 16 PG's are better because those teams make the playoffs. Can you Imagine Marbury on Dallas or Phoenix?? Yeah he is buried on the bench and only gets mop up minutes. Marbury had a better season last year than I thought but to put him anywhere near the top ten PG's in the league buy any rank but salary is a joke. Top 10 point guards LEAD their teams into the playoffs instead of riding the pine down the stretch with a towel on the thier head. Look how Baron Davis played in the playoffs hurt and lead his team to an improbable upset. You can't even put Baron and Marbury in the same sentence. I'm a true Knicks fan but damn, Marbury might not even be the best PG on the team, let alone top ten in the league.
    soooo... you rank these guys ahead of Steph:

    (1) T. Parker (SA) (2) Nash (Pho) (3) Terry (Dal) (4) Alston (Hou) (5) Williams (Uta) (6) AI (Den) (7) Smush Parker (LAL) (8) Baron Davis (GS) (9) Chauncey (Det) (10) Nelson (Orl) (11) Larry Hughes (Cle) (12) Antonio Daniels (Was) (13) Ford (Tor) (14) J. Kidd (NJ) (15) Jason Williams (Mia) (16) Hinrick (Chi)

    This also means that guys like Chris Paul and Cassell are worse points than Smush Parker... see how stupid that logic is? Steph might not be the top 3 player he once was... but he's still top 10 (IMO)... remember how bad his numbers were in November and December when Isiah was benching him? Discount those months and steph had a very good year... don't sh*t on steph cuz we haven't made the playoffs in a while...

    Originally Posted by KnicksFan4Realz
    The fact some of you did not even mention Gary Payton is astonishing...head to head in their primes...GP atleast 3x better than Marbury.
    This list is based on last season...

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    I would consider Marbury, I hate calling him "starbury", one of the top pgs in the league. However when its all set and done he will be one of those players who will put up great stats but has little to show for it. He hasn't lead any team to anything other than a quick playoff exit. He doesn't have 2 mvp trophies like Nash, he doesn't have 80+ career triple-doubles like Kidd. Hell, he hasn't even made it to any type of conference finals let alone sniff the NBA fianls. Marbury has a good career with great stats but little to no trophies to show for it.

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    Originally Posted by KnicksFan4Realz
    Marbury doesn't even make my top 10.


    1.) Gary Payton-- Will be a HOF'er...outstanding offensive/defensive player every single season for well over a decade...role player now...but he to me has been the best PG overall for quite some time when he was in his prime. Championship ring gets him over.

    2.) Jason Kidd-- number 2 only to Payton. Great hustler, great passer, steady handed. Triple double kingpin. Led team to Finals what 2x? another HOF'er with Payton.

    3.) Tony Parker... he himself has won 3 championships in 5 years...he's got to be doing something right, not to mention 1 Finals MVP.

    4.) Baron Davis---can play all phases of the game..offense, passing, scoring...get's over looked because of injuries last few years.

    5.) Steve Nash-- same as Baron..cept plays no defense...but he hustles his ass off, and without him the Suns fizzle out.

    6.) Mike Bibby- led his team to several playoff appearances. Always a key member. Just ran into much better LA teams when he had his best chance to win a title. One of the most consistent to ever play. And started every game of his career.

    7.) Sam Cassell- everywhere he has gone. He was won..maybe not a title but playoff appearances. When healthy 100% and in the playoffs few are better than him. Constantly overlooked, and underrated.

    8.) Gilbert Arenas-- would rank him higher but not starting for I think 2 seasons holds him back on my list. But his talent is bananas.


    9.) Chris Paul-- the engine that runs NO. Period. He very well could be the next Oscar Robertson with his talent level. He could very well pull off averaging a triple double for one season.


    10.) Derron Willams- has the killer instinct, can set up teammates, hit the 3, drive the lane. Can do it all...he works on his D...could be the next GP minus the trash talking.


    Pass that **** man.

    You talk about winning so much, but doesn't even have a Finals MVP like Billups on your list? Talk about an inconstant view on things


    Originally Posted by ShairanXIII
    I'd put AI at #4 and switch 6 & 7... but otherwise... I co-sign...
    AI = SG most of career, Snow played most of the PG in Philadephia, Blake in Denver. But you can also come back at me saying AI was the lead guard most of his career and basically was the offense of his team, meaning the leader.


    Baron Davis has been injury prone, if he wasn't, I would agree also.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard


    Pass that **** man.

    You talk about winning so much, but doesn't even have a Finals MVP like Billups on your list? Talk about an inconstant view on things




    AI = SG most of career, Snow played most of the PG in Philadephia, Blake in Denver. But you can also come back at me saying AI was the lead guard most of his career and basically was the offense of his team, meaning the leader.


    Baron Davis has been injury prone, if he wasn't, I would agree also.
    I'm not inconsistent. Billups does not impress me at all overall. Payton has 1, Parker has 3, Cassell has 2...championships. Billups as won 1 title...1 finals mvp. My list was made in conjunction with career, and post season accomplishments. I figured any fool could see that...

    Every player on my list with the exception of Williams and Paul...those two being projections...has a great career and some playoff heroics to go along with them....Williams last playoff series doesn't count till he does it a few more times..and he was strong against SA.

    Chauncey in my view is a one hit wonder...he wasn't doing **** till he got to Detroit..and when he hooked up with LB. Hell, Avery Johnson has 2 titles...had a long career...and he's not on my list. Kenny Smith is not on my list either...

    My scores are composites between career, playoffs, and finals if applicable...all Chauncey has is 1 title...yeah yeah they have been to the Eastern Conference finals 5 times in row. They key to those teams was everyone none of the Pistons really stand out, at all.

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