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    I'm all for the art of thread warfare but damn, this **** is getting old. Marbury can not be ranked at this point. Injuries are a factor, **** attitude and lack of playing is a factor. In any case he didn't play so I can't say he's better then this guy or not as good as that guy (with in reason). I think Marbury's still got gas in the tank but he's more of a shooting guard than a point guard. I like Marbury when he's doing what he does best, scoring, not passing the ball. This team has never really been good under Marbury's leadership. That's not really a knock on him. Silvio wasn't as good of a Don as Tony you know!

    Walsh and D'Antoni need to find a point guard and consider trading Crawford and moving Marbury down a spot. With out hate or dickridery this is the only logical way I can see winning with Marbury as even a remote possibility.

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    marbury, has not been top 10, but he does have potnetial to be comeback player of year...if the knicks let him run show and not crawford. I wish they'd trade crawford, draft a real PG to back up steph, let him do his thing and eventually have the rookie take over the point, maybe the year after if marbury is having good year. I think marbury can, but will he? So many factors against him, besides injuries, I feel teamates and coaches are a big issue.
    I believe the coaches will continue this horrible trend of letting crawford control the ball. Even though steph is better, and possibly could regain top 10 placement...it wouldn't be that hard, as metro pointed out there aren't many dominate PG like marbury is capable of being. He could easily jump back up the top 10 with a solid season. But it's up to the coaches and his teamates to give him the chance. It also means crawford has to be out or have a reduced role. WHich unfortunetaly I don't see happening.

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    Originally Posted by jzero29
    I believe the coaches will continue this horrible trend of letting crawford control the ball. Even though steph is better, and possibly could regain top 10 placement.
    The question you have to ask yourself is: why?

    Coaches and GMs spend most of their lives think about basketball or playing basketball. Nobody wants to lose (except to tank a season). I think even Isiah tried his best to win. Unfortuanetly, he didn't know how. So if Pringles and Donnie bench Marbury I assume the have a reason. If they play him, I assume they have a reason as well. Why should anybody let Crawford control the ball, knowing that Marbury is the better option? I think --if so -- it will be more of a question of picking the lesser of two evils.

    No coach or member of the managing staff should get his personal sympathies and antipathies in the way of winning. You could say that this may have been the case last season, but for now, you have to wait and see what Donnie and D'Antoni will do.

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    Originally Posted by jzero29
    marbury, has not been top 10, but he does have potnetial to be comeback player of year...if the knicks let him run show and not crawford. I wish they'd trade crawford, draft a real PG to back up steph, let him do his thing and eventually have the rookie take over the point, maybe the year after if marbury is having good year. I think marbury can, but will he? So many factors against him, besides injuries, I feel teamates and coaches are a big issue.
    I believe the coaches will continue this horrible trend of letting crawford control the ball. Even though steph is better, and possibly could regain top 10 placement...it wouldn't be that hard, as metro pointed out there aren't many dominate PG like marbury is capable of being. He could easily jump back up the top 10 with a solid season. But it's up to the coaches and his teamates to give him the chance. It also means crawford has to be out or have a reduced role. WHich unfortunetaly I don't see happening.
    I like your thinking here, get rid of Crawford to give a young PG prospect a chance to be part of the future here in New York. Thats the direction we need to go. Good post. Hopefully Mayo or Augustin falls to us.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    1. Chris Paul
    2. Deron Williams
    3. Steve Nash
    4. Jason Kidd
    5. Allen Iverson
    6. Baron Davis
    7. Chauncey Billups
    8. Jose Calderon
    9. Tony Parker
    10. Gilbert Arenas
    11. TJ Ford
    12. Devin Harris
    13. Andre Miller
    14. Stephon Marbury

    Marbury is close to the top 10 range, he just needs one good season to back it up.


    Honestly, Marbury is better than guys like

    Jameer Nelson (defensively is terrible, only advantage over Marbury is shooting and youth)
    Rajon Rando (C level player)
    Earl Watson (C level player)
    Jason Williams (C level player)
    Mike Conley(right now) (in the future will eventually pass Marbury)
    Daniel Gibson (C level player)
    Beno Udirh (C level player)
    Derek Fisher (glorified role player)
    Marko Jaric (C level player)
    Jarret Jack (C level player)
    Rafer Alston (Never was and never will be better)
    Mike Bibby (on the decline completely, terrible defender, really has become one of the least athletic PG's in the NBA)
    Raymond Felton (can't shoot, streaky player thats immature as a PG)
    Antonio Daniels(role player)
    Kirk Hinrich (medicore at everything)
    Jamal Tiinsley(injury prone, can't shoot, on the decline)
    Maurice Williams(terrible defensively, really a combo guard)
    I agree with most of your list. We know marbury has the talent. As long as he can remain healthy he will be back to the top 10. Top 15 is nothing to be ashamed of. That means your better then half the other starting point guards in the league.

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