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    oh, and jamal got a killer cross-over... i mean killer.

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    ask d.wade... he only dropped 52 on him.

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    If Denver would go for it, I'd like to see IT make a trade for Marcus Camby and Kenyon Martin for Randolph Morris, Nate Robinson, Wilson Chandler, Jared Jeffries, Jerome James and Q-Rich.

    That would open up a position to play either David Lee or Renaldo Balkman and give both Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry some serious backups defensively. Limit Camby's minutes to prevent injury. Maybe even move K-Mart to SF to tighten up the D.

    Would you think that move would make the Knicks a .500 team again?

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    Originally Posted by wymm
    If Denver would go for it, I'd like to see IT make a trade for Marcus Camby and Kenyon Martin for Randolph Morris, Nate Robinson, Wilson Chandler, Jared Jeffries, Jerome James and Q-Rich.

    That would open up a position to play either David Lee or Renaldo Balkman and give both Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry some serious backups defensively. Limit Camby's minutes to prevent injury. Maybe even move K-Mart to SF to tighten up the D.

    Would you think that move would make the Knicks a .500 team again?
    6 for 2 for camby and k. martin, that's steep... if this happens denver would have a 19-man roster, that's not just a little off that's way off... k. martin hates ny and ny hates k. martin, he's damaged goods anyway... his game is all athletecism and when he blew his knees out he was pretty much done...
    is denver really shopping camby? he's their best defender... remember the brawl? there's bad blood there... you think they want to deal with us?

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    Originally Posted by donchris
    Yawn! Crawford is not as bad as you guys make him out to be. The only part of his game that needs work is his shot selection. Crawford is solid on defense, has great handles and works well with Curry and Marbury. You do not want to leave Crawford open. He's a solid clutch player. He aint Houston or Ray Allen but Crawford is good. That being said I'd trade him and Richardson for the right player.
    On what planet is Crawford solid on defense??? Someone who has "great handles" should never cough the ball up as much as he does....For every positive in Crawfords' game, you can point out two or three negatives....Flashy as hell, but little or no basketball IQ.

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    we haven't seen anything Chandler can do in the pros yet... D-Nice dominated... but so did Skita (remember him) and even Lampe looked aiight at times during SL... my point is... i wouldn't give up any good, young talent for a 33 year old with 4 years left on a hefty contract (Q is 27 making about 7 mil)... K Mart is 31 with two bad legs and a bad attitude... I'd keep our youngsters unless we get an immediate starter... otherwise I'd trade our expiring contracts if Denver is trying to shed salary... I think we could get them to bite on Jones, Dikau and Rose... strengthens three of their weaknesses... 1, 2 and Rose could back up Nene... and be a good locker room influence... I think Denver might bite on that unless they get better offers elsewhere...

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    Hypothetically speaking, what if Isiah Thomas Knicks have a forth season (in a row) where they could not WIN more than 33 games this 2007-8 season? or they made it to a 38 WIN season in the 2007-8 season?
    This is hypothetical speaking, but has some strong facters in it that may become a reality with the poor defensive effort, and the lack of team chemistry amongst the players inwhich we been seeing the last three seasons.

    Do the Knicks have one of the Deepest Benches in the NBA? Yes or No?
    How well is the Knicks Starters vs NBA Team Starters? 60%? 50%? 40%? or are we waiting to see by being optimistic because we have a new additional player in the Starting lineup that we assume Stat sheet record says he is better with this Knick roster than the guy he is replacing?

    As a Knick-Fan what 6 to 7 Players on this Knick Roster you depend on the most for well consistent performances? please dont add Zack Randolph we have not seen him play in a Knick Uniform.

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    Our chemistry has been improving every year and this season might be the first for me to say chemistry shouldn't be a major problem...but I could be wrong.

    We have a bench full of young talent. Lee and Balkman are the only proven players that can come off the bench consistently and change the game with there play. Collins finished the season off strong but it's up in the air on how he'll play this season. And Nate Rob is inconsistent...that's just how he plays...erratic.

    Marbury
    Balkman
    Lee
    Randolph
    Curry
    Q-Rich
    Collins

    These are the guys that we must depend on. Randolph MUST be included because he is our best scorer in the post. Not including him would show lack of IQ...

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    The key to the Knicks will be health, chemistry and defense.

    They certainly have the talent, but Marbury's health is especially key, as is Crawfords and Q's.

    We essentially lost much of our backcourt at times last year. And that is what kept this team from being .500.

    We are stacked up front, but it would be nice if Eddy Curry finally got in shape and learned to box out, jump for rebounds, and block shots. I don't think that is asking too much from a guy with his body and natural athleticism. If Curry ever really focused on his conditioning, he could become an all star, untill then, he is simply a low post load with nice hands.

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    EXACTLY. Curry was almost on the all-star team just because of his natural talents...just think if he put some effort in conditioning and on defense and the other natural 5 position's responsibilities...he will be an all-star every year. It'll click in his head soon because he's seeing flashes of what he can become

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    Originally Posted by The 1 and Only
    Our chemistry has been improving every year and this season might be the first for me to say chemistry shouldn't be a major problem...but I could be wrong.

    We have a bench full of young talent. Lee and Balkman are the only proven players that can come off the bench consistently and change the game with there play. Collins finished the season off strong but it's up in the air on how he'll play this season. And Nate Rob is inconsistent...that's just how he plays...erratic.

    Marbury
    Balkman
    Lee
    Randolph
    Curry
    Q-Rich
    Collins

    These are the guys that we must depend on. Randolph MUST be included because he is our best scorer in the post. Not including him would show lack of IQ...
    I ask not to put Zack Randolph in the lineup of the consistent Knick Players that we seen last season to see if alot of Members in this forum have simular lineups as each other, and specifically if Coach Isiah Thomas plays these players alot with Zack Randolph to get him to be consistently.

    David Lee
    Balkman
    Crawford
    Nate (is the suprise weapon if not monitored)
    Collins
    Marbury (plays consistent with Crawford)
    Curry (plays consistent with Lee)
    And Q.Richardson is a consistent player when he is playing alongside of certain Teammates.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Hypothetically speaking, what if Isiah Thomas Knicks have a forth season (in a row) where they could not WIN more than 33 games this 2007-8 season? or they made it to a 38 WIN season in the 2007-8 season?
    This is hypothetical speaking, but has some strong facters in it that may become a reality with the poor defensive effort, and the lack of team chemistry amongst the players inwhich we been seeing the last three seasons.

    Do the Knicks have one of the Deepest Benches in the NBA? Yes or No?
    How well is the Knicks Starters vs NBA Team Starters? 60%? 50%? 40%? or are we waiting to see by being optimistic because we have a new additional player in the Starting lineup that we assume Stat sheet record says he is better with this Knick roster than the guy he is replacing?

    As a Knick-Fan what 6 to 7 Players on this Knick Roster you depend on the most for well consistent performances? please dont add Zack Randolph we have not seen him play in a Knick Uniform.
    1. We have one of the deepest benches outside of SA or dal or phx. in the east i would say were top 3 or 4 in terms of depth after det or chi and maybe nj.

    2. I would say our starters are about better than 40-50% of other teams, but I dont think thats very important because our strength is in how deep our team bench goes.

    3. I would say you know what youre getting every night from lee, balkman, marbury to some extent, i can count on curry to put up 15-25 a night. in terms of positive those are about the only names i can give. but i can count on the 2 jjs to contribute next to nothing every game.... so i guess thats 6 players you can count on for consistent performances.

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    Originally Posted by highesthigh
    ask d.wade... he only dropped 52 on him.
    Its one game. Allan Houston (one of my favorite Knicks of all time) dropped over 50 points on George and Kobe, so the **** what?

    I laugh at you again, Crawford has a sick killer cross over, so???

    Wow, lets get Rafer Alston and Carlos Arroyo on the team now.

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    Teams with Playoff Locks

    1) Cleveland (Lebron)
    2) Chicago (got youth and veteran leadership)
    3) Nets (The Big-3 got lots of help to stay healthy)
    4) Detroit (got both side of the court Chemistry)
    5) Toronto (building great chemistry)
    6) Boston (KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen)
    7) Miami (Wade return in January)
    8) Wizards (Arenas), Bucks (Redd), Bobcats (Jason Richardson)

    With all the potential-talent, with such a deep long bench the Knicks could knock-out any team above from the 4th-spot to the 8th-spot.
    But last season showed "POOR-COACHING" that could not put together a simple rotation of players to build a chemistry on offense, so Knick oponents took advantage of the NonDefensive effort that was never established to these Knick Players as a team-defense.

    I see a crucial WINNING Lineup on this Knick-Team that could WIN alot of games next season in Zach, Lee, Balkman, Crawford, and Nate Robinson.
    We all could find a different WINNING lineup with all the talented players on this Knick Team.
    Hopefully, in Zeke second season coaching he too could find a winning lineup so he could make a drastic change in his coaching that involves more Wins then loses...

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Teams with Playoff Locks

    1) Cleveland (Lebron)
    2) Chicago (got youth and veteran leadership)
    3) Nets (The Big-3 got lots of help to stay healthy)
    4) Detroit (got both side of the court Chemistry)
    5) Toronto (building great chemistry)
    6) Boston (KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen)
    7) Miami (Wade return in January)
    8) Wizards (Arenas), Bucks (Redd), Bobcats (Jason Richardson)

    how can you say the bobcats are a lock with a weaker bench and less chemistry? i also am not sold on miami without wade. was' defense is horrible and im not sure how theyre gonna do this year. toronto is not a lock because unless they win the atlantic im not sure they make it. half the teams in the east got better i think and they are lacking down low outside of bosh (who isnt a big inside player anyway). i agree with cle, chi, nj, det, bos and think mia will sneak in.

    your positivity continues.

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