Camby gets his blocks mostly off help defense, but when he can't afford to help as much, he is useless. He can't score all that much, No post game. He came in having avg 19 rebounds a game. Soon as he deals with a guy who can score and rebound (Zach) His numbers go down. Hence his value.
We all know Curry does not defend well or rebound well, But he has two of the best rebounding pf's in the game on his team, which means he can be free to do what he does best. That is concentrate on his scoring. And NO ONE CAN STOP HIM. We have seen Camby Nullified. NO ONE CAN STOP CURRY FROM SCORING.
I think you guys need tp start realizing how valuable it is to have a player no one can stop.
I do not have pessimistic views on Curry, I have realistic views on Curry. I see things for what they are. I've like Curry all along, since we got him. When he needs to be praised, thats what I'll do and he deserves praise for what he did last night. When he needs to be criticised, thats why were all part of knicksonline.com, so we can say what we like and what we dont like. I know when you said "to the haters" it was directed at me, metrocard, and a couple others. I do often criticize Curry but its because of ignorant posts that give him to much credit. I dont consider myself to be a hater of anyone on the team (including Isiah, excluding Jerome James). Im hard on Crawford (no homo) sometimes too but were all on here to point out the strenghts and weaknesses of the knicks indivually and as a team.
We all need to positive about our team!!
Curry lets not forget is still a young kid even though he has been in the league for a minute now!! He hears the boos!! He reads the critics words and as a kid he is affected !! If you think about he should be a second or third year player at best!! If last year was his second year would you be as hard on him??
We are all entitled to our opinion right or wrong!!( Curry critics will be proven wrong) I believe in time Curry will be the second best Big in the east
I would however would trade Curry in a package for Kobe if Bynum came along !!!
You didn't say **** after that.
Camby WOULD look ****ing awesome on the Knicks.
PG - Iverson
SG - Richardson
SF - Anthony
PF - Nene
C - Chubby
PG - Marbury
SG - Crawford
SF - Balkman
PF - Randolph
C - Camby
This line up is a perfect mix of offense, defense, and energy.
Camby would fill in the gaps we're missing...every weakness Curry has, its Camby's strength. We get a huge upgrade and Camby would be the super compliment for a superstar like Zach Randolph. Zach Randolph is the best big man on the Knicks, we need to understand this. Curry's future is limited because of his limited abilities as a basketball player. He doesn't give you the total package. Randolph/Camby would be the best big man duo since Duncan/Robinson. Both are experienced and all star caliber players.
Camby did look great on the Knicks and probably look good again but not over Camby!! Look I remember the hardships Camby had in NY!! Still loved him!! Even if Van Gundy did not share my opinion!!
Thing is Camby plays in Denver now and yes is a much more accomplished player then Curry but Curry is who we have and has played well for us!!
He has a long way to go but I believe if you watch our games (dont read or look at stats) you would see that Curry gets no love!! Not from the Fans (till the forth last night that is), Not anyone not named Crawford on our team till now And Definitely not any one of these goons Stern calls refs!! when he does though watch out!! WATCH OUT!!!
His size, athleticism and skills are all there!! His understanding of the game is growing every time he plays!! If he can get the respect of a star player then and only then will all the haters change face!!
Curry over Camby is not even a need for debate what is a worthy debate
is Why Not Get Kobe????
Camby and God wont = Duncan - Robinson!!
Did you forget Karl Malone and Shaq??
Rasheed and Ben Wallace???
Bet there might even be more bigs since that are better dawg !!!
Ahh. Owned me because you laid down stats. Yet when you had no stats to back up your argument over who is better defensively Wade or Lebron, you conveniently ran in the corner you must have lived most of your life in (isolated and very lonely) And said "Stats don't tell the whole story" Sigh. I remember when I was 19 though.
Camby is a solid player. Nothing more, nothing less. Whenever he has to d up a player with offensive prowess, he crawls into a little shell, and is much less of what he appears to be. Vs the Knicks we've seen this, and tonight in Boston vs KG and KO. WHERE IS ONE OF THE MOST TALENTED CENTERS WHO CAN DOMINATE ON DEFENSE WHEN YOU NEED HIM? How is he helping Denver now? This means every time they play an opponent with good front line men, he is a no show. He has been that way since he was a Knick, and it continues throughout.
HE IS O.K.
Let's see you reply to a post without spewing on adolescent insult.
Everybody should just get over it. Metro will never write a post that doesn't contain a insult towards Crawford, Curry, or Isiah. The night after Curry plays one of his best games as a pro all we have to hear is how Camby is a better asset to the team then Curry.
Every Knick fan loves Camby. He was probably the second most important player in our magical run to the 1999 finals, so Camby is always going to have a great place in every fans heart. But lets face the facts. Hate Curry or not hes a good player. He can't be guarded one on one, and although slight he has shown improvements on defense and the boards. Camby is one hell of a help shot blocker but he's not at all a great post defender, its actually kind of a joke that he beat out a guy like Bruce Bowen for defensive player of the year.
Just a few things to consider when comparing Curry and Camby. Age and durability. Camby is much older and always hurt.
Who cares about my age? What the hell, you some 30 year old sitting in his undies butt naked eating doritos? God bless me I'm 19; and superior to you.
STFU, a defensive player of the year who's an all star and top 3 center isn't "solid". Normally I don't tell people to STFU, I come read the opinions of my Knicks nation. But damn guy, you need to stop posting.
Do you even watch basketball, or do you have your head in your ass continuously eating doritos? Nothing you said in this post really makes sense.
I understand Curry is talented and one of the best scorers in the paint, but you can't even give Camby any credit, which really shows your bias and how far your views are from reality.
When you're wrong, you're wrong. Get over it. I killed you, stop trying to come back from the dead.
BTW, Camby is averaging like 20 rebounds, 4 blocks, and 4 assist and like 1.7 turnovers. Dude is efficient as anyone at his position. EFFIENCY = + 27.25
Camby is a beast; all the true hardcore Knick fans would welcome Camby back, a center with winning experience, and can help this team more than Curry can 10x.
Also i'd like to see your list of top 5 centers Metro I'm curious to see who your top 5 are. I'm not saying Curry is # 1 but he's a top 5 center.
Shaq is number one? The man can barely stay on the balls of his feet. Have you been following the NBA or still having problems with getting "realstic"?
Okur and Curry aren't better than Camby. Camby is in his prime; He's been averaging 17-20 rebounds and 4-5 block shots so far. He can pass, and play within the offense(not score 19 points, but he won't hurt you offensively). You're not a quality poster, so I'm not surprised you didn't even explain your rankings
Duncan(Best big man in the NBA, one of the greatest big's in our era)
Yao(no explanation needed)
Howard(Has polished his defense and offense, one of the best rebounder and athlete at his position)
Camby(best rebounder, shot blocker, defensive player, passer at his position. Basically a prime Ben Wallace with polished offense; defensive player of the year, one of the most talented C's in the game, has an all around game)
Boozer(Yes, at 6"9 Boozer plays C, and is the best scorer at this position, amazing rebounder and smart player who doesn't commit errors often)
Amare (Injury has set him back, but is still one of the most talented players in the NBA, a break out season will put him at back at the top 3 where he was 2 years ago)
Emeka Okafor (Extremely underrated)
Paul Gasol (Consistent, 20 and 9 type of player)
Jermaine O'Neal (a two side player; offense and defense. Needs to work on his FG%
Tyson Chandler (Marcus Camby without the offense)
Camby has played over 70 games twice in his career. But i'm done getting into this stuff with you. I'm going to follow everyone elses advice and just ignore you.
Last edited by GetRealistic; Nov 07, 2007 at 23:04.