View Poll Results: Which Knick starter has been the worst so far?

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  • Stephon Marbury

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  • Jamal Crawford

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  • Quentin Richardson

    7 30.43%
  • Zach Randolph

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  • Eddy Curry

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Thread: Which Knick has been the biggest problem so far?

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    Default Which Knick has been the biggest problem so far?

    For me its between Crawford, Curry, and Zach Randolph. As bad as Zach has been, I think i can narrow it down to Curry and Crawford. From here, its a tough choice. Crawfords defense and shooting percentages are both horrible, and he turns the ball over alot. Curry is a bad defender, rebounder, and he also turns the ball over alot. Im gonna pick Curry mainly becuz of his poor defense. Being a center, you have to use your size. Curry is blessed with every physical attribute it takes to dominate but yet hes too soft in the head. He needs to have that pitbull mentality, Aint no one takin it in on me tonight. Im gonna stop everyone, Im too big and too strong. Instead of thinkin like that, Curry only worries about offense. He is still a one dimensional player and he didnt just come into the league.

    Crawford is also blessed with physical attributes that should make him a better defender and a better scorer but his problems are also in his head. Curry and Crawford are both mentally weak. I dont expect any changes, these guys are role players. They dont belong in no starting lineups unless you got a shot blocker next to Curry.

    Theres some hope for Richardson. I can at least see the effort for the most part with him.

    Marbury has been the best starter and the only good starter.

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    Isiah's inability to understand our biggest weakness is on defense (Perimeter and in the paint) and turnovers(including the poorest turnover assist ratio and lack of assist being made). He hasn't address this issue in 3 years. Why should he stll be GM? Let go of Isiah and give the job to a GM who can answer our problems.

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    Default Q-Rich aweful.

    Quentin Richardson, has been absent. He hasn't really had a good game, he may be decent defender, but his shots are not falling. Maybe it's his elbow?

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    I dont know if its his elbow, his back surgery after last year, or sumthin else. I hope he gets better soon cuz they need someone else to step up. You dont know what to expect with everyone in the starting lineup, the only one whos been consistent the past week or 2 has been Marbury (except Boston game)

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    Q played played good offensively last game

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    It is his elbow.. but he is not consistant anyway.. He is a average player and will always be an average player. The player that is the biggest problem is Marbury, Z Bo, and Crawford. Not liking that combo. Marbury is not with the right crew, making him a below average PG this year. See it helps if a PG has other players on the team with some leadership skills. Nobody has any and Marbury needs players to step up.

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    Tough question. Being that that whole team is a disaster take your pick. What interests me more is what the Knicks can do to get back on track. Curry needs to improve his game but right now he's our best option. Trading him for trash wont improve the team. I'd say the worse Knick right now, sadly is Marbury.

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    Yall know Im a big Marbury fan and the only problem I have with him is that hes not vocal enough. He needs to be the one callin team meetings and talkin to the team about what is not acceptable. Hes not the best leader but I still believe he ranks last on this list. In other words, the other 4 players are bigger problems then he is. Marburys been the best player in my opinion since bein reinserted into the starting lineup. Hes been scorin and playin defense. Hes not the best assist guy but ive seen him set up his teammates and they miss easy shots. If a couple of guys could hit layups and open jumpshots hed be averaging more assists.

    I give Crawford some credit for talkin to the team after the Celtics game, but Curry bein a captain is a joke. Crawford is to, but Currys an even bigger joke. At least Crawford says the right things like what he said to the fans after the Bucks game. Curry had a recent quote where he admitted that not gettin enough touches because of Zach takes him outta the game. If hes not gettin enough touches he cant cry about it. He needs to rebound and play defense. If I was Isiah I would tell Curry to forget about offense, just focus on playin defense and rebounding the next couple of games. It seems like they aint puttin the right thoughts in Currys head, he talks to much about offense. They shouldnt say **** about offense, they should be sayin the word "defense" to him 1000 times everyday.

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    Marbury has been the best and most consistent player for the Knicks this year. But he is the biggest "problem" for the team. Sometimes it is not all about play, but about trusting your teammates and playing well with them. Marbury has not proven that he can do that anywhere. The sooner he goes and is replaced with an adequate, pass-first, team oreinted PG the better the Knicks will be.

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    not one of the poll choices, but my write in candidate.



    DOLAN!!!!!!!!!

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    yea i agree...DOLAN! and q rich

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    I have been a BIG Basher of Marbury, Crawford, and Curry, altough I seen some somewhat improvements in their trying to co-exist with their teammates this season but its not enough.
    So I imagined if SF-Ron Artest, SF-Richard Jefferson, or SF-Prince was Starting alongside of them, these three SF take the pressure off their Guards and Center on offense/defense, and that is what this team is lacking by giving Q.Richardson 34 MPG. Q.Rich performance helps NO one on this team this season.
    On the Knicks 16th game Q.Rich finally gave out 4 assists, this is something that the average decent SF in the league average in dimes per game.
    We all seen how Q.Rich has been stealing rebounds from Zach, Lee, and Curry to make it look like he is a sufficient rebounder. The Knicks got good rebounders, the team needs desperate help in scoring & passing from the SF-Position like other NBA teams have in SF-Pierce, Carmelo, Lebron, AK47, Redd, Turk, Odom, Diaw, Ginobli, and Steve Jackson.

    Q.Richardson is the Knicks BIGGEST Problem in the Starting-5 lineup...

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    Marbury has had some good games of late but his all around play from the begining of the season has been a bit under-whelming. I truly believed that after his season last year, he would be the leader to take the Knicks over the top. So it is for this reason, I vote for Marbury. Zach's play has been very suspect as well, though his numbers are strong, his all around play, bad shots, bad defense, bad passes, has been abysmal.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Isiah's inability to understand our biggest weakness is on defense (Perimeter and in the paint) and turnovers(including the poorest turnover assist ratio and lack of assist being made). He hasn't address this issue in 3 years. Why should he stll be GM? Let go of Isiah and give the job to a GM who can answer our problems.
    I'm with you and I said in another thread that they should bring back Jeff Vangundy as the coach and hire West for the GM spot. I think they should retain Isiah as a scout for the draft, since we did give him a contract extension.
    As far as who has been the biggest disappointment so far this season I would have to say Curry hands down! I would say Marbury is a close second but then again I feel he lets the team down every season so I guess he is actually consistent and delivers exactly what we expect him to give us.

    Crawford - He is what he is... instant offense in spurts and that's why I feel his best roll on this team is coming off the bench and playing both the 2 and 1 spots as well as being a change of pace player. When Crawford is on the floor for long periods of time, he ends up becoming a liability but when he is used in spots, he can be very effective! No D at all, though he comes up with a steal from time to time.

    QR - If his back problems are limited this season I feel QR is a solid 3 for the Knicks. He has shown he can play D when the coach and the system demands it from him. He also has shown that he can run and gun if the coach/system demands it from him. QR's performance is key for this lineup. If he has back issues all season and misses a bunch of games, the Knicks will feel it big time!

    Zach - Zach is a pure isolation player that can generate high offensive numbers. While on any given night he can put up a double double (rebounds and points), he is not a good post defender. He can rebound and score but he can't body up anyone and he does not posses any lateral quickness so he can't box out in the paint either.

    Curry- Curry plays lack luster ball period! His play is uninspiring and while at times he has shown that there is a blip of a defender buried within that 300 pound frame, we have only caught the slightest of glimpses and it is tiring already. The dude should have his WAY in the paint but he just does not have the killer instinct that a 6' 11" 300 pound center should have. I remember people complaining about Ewing being soft and too much of a jump shooter; Curry make Ewing look like Bill Russel on D! I think Curry is better suited for a fast paced western team. If I was the GM that's what I would focus on, trying to pull off a block buster trade sending Curry to a Western team for some position guys that the Knicks need (a STARTING perimeter defender).

    Lee - Lee has shown me that he could very well be a yearly candidate for the 6th man award. His role on this team is perfectly defined and it exploits his strengths and guards against exposing his weaknesses. He can not score consistently unless it is on put backs and dunks; yet that is exactly what this team needs. Like Randolph, he has trouble bodying-up his man in the paint but he is better at it than Zach. He is, in my opinion, becoming another Charles Oakley and that is a good thing. If he can continue his strength training so that he can body-up his man, he could be one of the best players that Isiah has ever drafted.

    Balkman - Like Lee he has shown that he can rebound the ball and doesn't mind the less "showy" role on the team. I feel Balkman is a better defender than Lee; more agile and versatile. He has to develop his offense, specifically a mid range jumper, so that he can keep his man on him and not doubling another player. Balkman can also play, in my opinion, 3 spots (3, 4 and 2). He is quick enough to guard the perimeter, whether a guard or small forward and he has shown that he can grind it out down in the paint when playing the 4. What he lacks in strength he makes up for in quickness and just pure will. If he can show this type of play consistently, he could make Lee expendable if needed to make a KEY trade, but it would be great if the Knicks could keep both Lee and Balkman.

    Nate - I'm going to reserve my opinion right now. The jury is still out on him and I want to see how he does subbing for Marbury while he deals with the loss of his dad.

    The Knicks problem is not talent it is cohesion and this team has way too many players that are 1 on 1 type guys and want to be featured. In my opinion Curry, Crawford or Marbury and Robinson should be shopped around. Lee should only be used if the trade is yielding a top notch player that also FILLS a NEED. The needs are a big man that just wants to grind and a starting perimeter defender. Artest's name is thrown around for that perimeter player and I would take a chance on him. Is he worth giving up Lee?? Yes if Lee is the only player in the trade. Like Malik rose and Lee for Artest. Who would I trade Curry for? I heard an interview with Mark Cuban a few months back saying that he loved Curry. I would see if I could stir up interest from Dallas. Maybe see what it would take to make a deal for Howard and say Dampier. If Curry and Crawford could get talks opened up. I might see if the Nets would be interested in pairing Curry with Kidd. If so would they part with RJ in that deal.

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    I don't quite understand why people are as down on Curry as they are based on this year's result to date. I realize and totally agree that he doesn't give 100% every night, turns the ball over too much, doesn't play great defense, doesn't rebound well for a guy his size, and looks a little sluggish out there at times.

    But this is the exact same guy as last year so far.

    The only reason his stats are down is because we added Zach.

    Zach is getting some of the touches and shots that Curry got last year and he's also picking up a rebound here or there that Curry would have gotten if Zach wasn't on the floor because Zach is so good on the boards.

    Curry is what he is.

    The only valid complaint is that he didn't improve.

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