View Poll Results: When will you say/admit that the Knicks are a better team without Stephon Marbury?

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  • If the Knicks get to ten games over .500 in games played without him

    2 8.70%
  • ... 5 games over .500 in games played without him

    1 4.35%
  • ... get to .500 in games played without him

    3 13.04%
  • No matter how much they win or lose they're already better.

    9 39.13%
  • Just coincidence/bad luck that its happened for the 4th time in his career, should change his #to 13

    0 0%
  • Pfft you know nothing about basketball, he is and always will be Starbury so **** all you haters.

    8 34.78%
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Thread: At What Point Will You Say The Knicks Are Better Without Steph?

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    Default At What Point Will You Say The Knicks Are Better Without Steph?

    A 3 game win streak and an overall record of 6-8 without him is not a fair enough sample to judge however talk amongst Knicks fans is rampant now ,more then ever that this team is better off without Stephon Marbury. What do you think?


    I will now self destruct after posting this thread...

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    i def think they r not better off with him not playing but we have played some good ball the last 3 games while he has been injured.
    i would like to see us play a few more games against quality sides to see how we run the ball and that before i make my mind up.
    The 3 wins have come against Detroit who was coming off back to back matches including OT against Charlotte, then Washington who was coming off a back to back and then the Nets who we r now 3-0 against this season so i still havent been moved away from Marbury.
    Its a good question though, im not sure how long it will take to find out if this is the case or not.

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    I cant believe you made this thread.

    At no point will I think the Knicks are better without Marbury. They were starting to play better before he got hurt. Alot of it is because of the month that Robinson and Crawford are having (check my game thread for stats) and because Balkman is finally playin. I think if Marbury had been playin the past 3 games we still wouldve won but all I can do their is speculate.

    If we continue to play well, then Marbury comes back and we start to lose then I will say we are a better team without him. I see this not goin away no matter what, people will continue to bring up Marburys name. Some of us will have fair criticism, some of us will have unfair criticism, and others like myslef will continue to defend him.

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    I cant believe you made this thread.

    At no point will I think the Knicks are better without Marbury. They were starting to play better before he got hurt. Alot of it is because of the month that Robinson and Crawford are having (check my game thread for stats) and because Balkman is finally playin. I think if Marbury had been playin the past 3 games we still wouldve won but all I can do their is speculate.

    If we continue to play well, then Marbury comes back and we start to lose then I will say we are a better team without him. I see this not goin away no matter what, people will continue to bring up Marburys name. Some of us will have fair criticism, some of us will have unfair criticism, and others like myslef will continue to defend him.
    I made it for the poll, I had no idea the thread gets posted before the poll does.

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    I already said it about 6 months ago after the season ended. I just was pissed to see a professional athlete drunk and high on television "trying" to make a good name for himself sellin Starbury's.

    Plus his previous teams he didn't lead them up to anything special. He is a talent don't get me wrong ,but a right team has to find him at one point. Do I see him a success in another team? That question will be answered as "No". He is simply done. No one NO ONE wants him....

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    Originally Posted by nyKnicks126
    I already said it about 6 months ago after the season ended. I just was pissed to see a professional athlete drunk and high on television "trying" to make a good name for himself sellin Starbury's.

    Plus his previous teams he didn't lead them up to anything special. He is a talent don't get me wrong ,but a right team has to find him at one point. Do I see him a success in another team? That question will be answered as "No". He is simply done. No one NO ONE wants him....
    NyKnicks126 me and and you have had numerous arguements and for the most part rarely agree, but i couldn't agree with you more on this post. You are 100 % right

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    Yeah thats true. Its weird.. But I think one day we will come along and agree on more things.

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    All the Marbury fans need to just let it go. I never once said the guy doesn't have talent, but he just doesn't fit in with the culture and the players we have here. Personally I think he's to ME first to fit in anywhere he goes(just listen to KG's interview about Marbury)

    Are we a good team without Marbury? No were still not a good team, but you guys have to be honest we are better without him then with him. Jamal is far from the protypical PG but i like him much better on the ball then off the ball. Everybody says Marbury can drive by almost anybody, but Jamal is close to uncoverable one on one, his cross over is rediculous. If he ever realizes this and drives to the basket more he has the potential to be a good player.

    But back to Marbury, his time here has passed. I know some of you love him for some reason or another, but hes never done anything positive here so just let it go.

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    you cant really jjudge by tht record, b/c our overall record sucks. But we are NOT a better team witout steph. He is a top 10 pg no doubt. When healthy he his the best player on this team. Steph steps up when needed the most. Do i have to bring up the stats from last year again??? There is no way this team is better without stephon marbury. period. wate a minute, i will bring up those stats one more time for all the haters:

    DECEMBER

    12/1 - 13 pts, 6 assists
    12/2 - 15 pts 4 asst
    12/4 - 16, 6
    12/6 - 16, 4
    12/9 - 2, 9assists
    12/16 - 31, 8
    12/18 - 29, 8
    12/20 - 10, 9
    12/22 - 19, 8
    12/27 - 41, 8
    12/29 - 14, 8

    JANUARY

    1/2 - 17, 8
    1/3 - 17, 7
    1/5 - 28, 4
    1/10 - 24, 6
    1/12 - 28, 5
    1/15 - 25, 8, 4 STEALS
    1/17 - 9, 8
    1/19 - 23, 7
    1/20 - 22, 6
    1/26 - 9, 13
    1/28 - 15, 8
    1/30 - 22, 1


    FEBRUARY

    2/3 - 14, 2
    2/6 - 15, 7
    2/10 - 7, 6
    2/13 - 8, 9
    2/14 - 7, 8
    2/23 - 22, 8
    2/25 - 22, 2
    2/28 - 23, 6

    MARCH

    3/2 - 34, 5
    3/3 - 38, 9, 5 STEALS
    3/6 - 40, 3
    3/10 - 15, 5
    3/14 - 31, 9
    3/16 - 8, 5
    3/18 - 21, 9
    3/22 - 17, 6
    3/26 - 32, 4
    3/28 - 16,8
    3/30 - 43, 3

    APRIL

    4/4 - 30, 6
    4/6 - 6, 0 (12 MINUTES)

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    Originally Posted by GoKnIcKsDLEE42
    you cant really jjudge by tht record, b/c our overall record sucks. But we are NOT a better team witout steph. He is a top 10 pg no doubt. When healthy he his the best player on this team. Steph steps up when needed the most. Do i have to bring up the stats from last year again??? There is no way this team is better without stephon marbury. period. wate a minute, i will bring up those stats one more time for all the haters:

    DECEMBER

    12/1 - 13 pts, 6 assists
    12/2 - 15 pts 4 asst
    12/4 - 16, 6
    12/6 - 16, 4
    12/9 - 2, 9assists
    12/16 - 31, 8
    12/18 - 29, 8
    12/20 - 10, 9
    12/22 - 19, 8
    12/27 - 41, 8
    12/29 - 14, 8

    JANUARY

    1/2 - 17, 8
    1/3 - 17, 7
    1/5 - 28, 4
    1/10 - 24, 6
    1/12 - 28, 5
    1/15 - 25, 8, 4 STEALS
    1/17 - 9, 8
    1/19 - 23, 7
    1/20 - 22, 6
    1/26 - 9, 13
    1/28 - 15, 8
    1/30 - 22, 1


    FEBRUARY

    2/3 - 14, 2
    2/6 - 15, 7
    2/10 - 7, 6
    2/13 - 8, 9
    2/14 - 7, 8
    2/23 - 22, 8
    2/25 - 22, 2
    2/28 - 23, 6

    MARCH

    3/2 - 34, 5
    3/3 - 38, 9, 5 STEALS
    3/6 - 40, 3
    3/10 - 15, 5
    3/14 - 31, 9
    3/16 - 8, 5
    3/18 - 21, 9
    3/22 - 17, 6
    3/26 - 32, 4
    3/28 - 16,8
    3/30 - 43, 3

    APRIL

    4/4 - 30, 6
    4/6 - 6, 0 (12 MINUTES)
    those r some serious stats lol. the kid can play when he wants to.
    It will be interesting to see what happens when Crawford and Nate have a bad game at the same time and see fi we r missing him cause this scenario will happen at some time. Do u think Jones will step up and lead from the front?? i dont know, maybe but i would like Marbury there or someone of his calibre helping us

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    the only reason these guys are saying we're better wihtout steph is cuz jamal and nate are shootin great. once they hit cold streaks, i wanna hear what they gotta say then

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    Originally Posted by GoKnIcKsDLEE42
    the only reason these guys are saying we're better wihtout steph is cuz jamal and nate are shootin great. once they hit cold streaks, i wanna hear what they gotta say then
    CORRECT!!!!
    im enjoying the ride though, sometimes when u win games u shouldnt cause ur a avg team they mean more then when ur a gun side and wins r wins.

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    Originally Posted by nyKnicks126
    Locally Marbury doesn't say anything. Guess what I saw yesterday Jamal actually was being a local leader by yellin "Box OUT!" He is comin along well.
    If this is true then it can only be a good thing for the Knicks, has taken a while but im happy about that

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    Yeah I deleted that post cause this thread had nuttin to do wit Stephon.

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    Great stats, what a year he had last year. He almost led us to the playoffs until he got injured. You cant go by what he did in the past i think hes a changed man and hes ready to lead whoever wants him to the playoffs and hopefully further. Im goin to the gym rite now but Im sure theres gonna be alot more hate in here then there already so we'll see whatsup when I get back.

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