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    Default Who do you want to draft?

    As a draft addict, I've come to understand that players with the highest level of skill and work ethic turnout to be the more successful picks.

    at PG, I would prefer D.J. Augustin out of the bunch

    at SG, OJ Mayo can fit as a Ginobili or Larry Hughes with a jumpshot.

    at SF, Joe Alexander would be my choice; he has the ideal size for a SF, really skilled offensively, a good shot blocker/banger in the post.

    at PF, Kevin Love.

    at C, and the most prized prospect that will hopefully land @ 6 for the Knicks would be Brook Lopez

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    PG- Derrick Rose
    SG- OJ
    SF- Joe Alexander
    PF- Mike Beasley
    C- DeAndre Jordan

    I dont like Augustine because he is too short for the league.
    I think Brook is nothing but a role-player, won't be better then what we have. However, I'm not saying DeAndre will. Quite a drought in centers this draft, I just think Jordan has a bigger upside.

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    Good Thread, Metrocard. Since the Knicks have the #6 pick, there's no way that the Knicks will be able to draft Beasley or Rose. This list is only the list of people I want, based on the people that will most likely be available:

    PG DJ Augustin
    SG OJ Mayo(can also play PG)
    SF Anthony Randolph(can also play PF or even C if he gains weight)
    PF Kevin Love(can also play C)
    C Brook Lopez(can also play PF)

    people not on the list who would also be good:
    C De Andre Jordan, PG Russell Westbrook, PF/C Javale McGee
    Last edited by abcd; May 25, 2008 at 21:59.

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    Watsup metro welcome back. We have some new members here, despite the routine members who bitch and complain i think this site continues to improve.


    I hope we draft OJ Mayo. I been doin some studying and i think hes the best fit for this knicks team. Hes a good defender, good scorer, good passer, and a great replacement for jamal crawful. One thing im having a hard time figuring out about him, is he a point guard or a shooting guard? From what i understand hes fully capable of playing both positions.

    Brook lopez is second on my list followed by Alexander.

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    I hope we draft OJ Mayo. I been doin some studying and i think hes the best fit for this knicks team. Hes a good defender, good scorer, good passer, and a great replacement for jamal crawful. One thing im having a hard time figuring out about him, is he a point guard or a shooting guard? From what i understand hes fully capable of playing both positions.
    I've been kinda leaning towards OJ aswell. High profile player with immense upside. I like risk on "character" guys anyway. I think Mike might just be the guy to turn him into a real PG. It might just be the best situation for him.

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    As much as I like OJ Mayo, I'd hate for him to be negatively influenced by some of the guys on this roster. His character is already an issue, but being in the same locker room with Randolph, Nate, and Marbury might not be good.

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    its a shame we dont have a 2nd round pick cause i would love to see Nathan Jawai play for the Knicks. The guy is going to be a solid player and he has a great attitude.

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    Nyk Logo Size doesn't always matter

    turneraddict since when did size matter in basketball? Allen Iverson is the saem height (6'0) as D.J Augustine do u see people sayin AI is to short...dumb excuse to pass a guy up that led Texas and I saw in games DJ Augustine take over in every way an all star can...yes he will be an all star mark my words. And too short? remeber Nate Robinson winning the dunk contest yea (5'9) I think Augustine is the best PG...Mayo is teh best SG i read an article by chad ford about him and this guy reminds me alot of A-ROD all this pressure and can still carry a team. SF is tough but ill give it to the Italian kid...PF is prob Kevin Love...and Center would be Brook lopez because teh knicks need a Center more than any oyher position...Zach Randolph can not play Center if i ran fast enough i could pull a lay up on him. Brook could run the floor, rebound and provide some defense...the knicks need a backup center with some shot blocking skill

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    turneraddict since when did size matter in basketball? Allen Iverson is the saem height (6'0) as D.J Augustine do u see people sayin AI is to short...dumb excuse to pass a guy up that led Texas and I saw in games DJ Augustine take over in every way an all star can...yes he will be an all star mark my words. And too short? remeber Nate Robinson winning the dunk contest yea (5'9) I think Augustine is the best PG...Mayo is teh best SG i read an article by chad ford about him and this guy reminds me alot of A-ROD all this pressure and can still carry a team. SF is tough but ill give it to the Italian kid...PF is prob Kevin Love...and Center would be Brook lopez because teh knicks need a Center more than any oyher position...Zach Randolph can not play Center if i ran fast enough i could pull a lay up on him. Brook could run the floor, rebound and provide some defense...the knicks need a backup center with some shot blocking skill

    DJ Augustin is 5'10" which is far too short to be the 6th pick. Hes not so overly skilled and athletic where it makes up for it. He isn't as quick as Iverson and he doesn't have a vert like Nate. Of course, Nate isn't really that great anyway. Its hard for him (DJ) to get a shot off when he is being guarded by a 6'4" guy who is just as fast.

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    Originally Posted by TunerAddict
    PG- Derrick Rose
    SG- OJ
    SF- Joe Alexander
    PF- Mike Beasley
    C- DeAndre Jordan

    I dont like Augustine because he is too short for the league.
    I think Brook is nothing but a role-player, won't be better then what we have. However, I'm not saying DeAndre will. Quite a drought in centers this draft, I just think Jordan has a bigger upside.
    You're not understanding the thread at all; Rose and Beasley will definitely be gone before the 6th pick. Listing them would be meaningless.

    DJ and Chris Paul are the same height. No one is too short for the NBA. Hardaway, Ford, Felton, Conley ...etc

    DJ Augustine's strengths

    Strengths:

    Strong build
    Basketball instincts
    Mix between scoring/passing
    Outstanding ball-handling skills w/either hand
    Change of gears/Hesitation moves
    Ability to get to free throw line
    Pick and roll play
    Perimeter shooting
    Off the dribble shooting
    Quick release
    Mid-range game
    Transition play
    Court vision
    Unselfishness
    Under control play
    Assist to turnover ratio
    Commitment to playing defense
    Fundamentals
    Intangibles
    Winner

    DeAndre Jordan is terrible offensively(has no post moves, is totally unaware of plays, always confused on offense) and he's as bad defensively (foul prone, terrible post defense).

    Brook Lopez has never been a role player in his life. He has proven he can be used in the clutch and can be utilized as a GO TO GUY. Brook Lopez right now will better than Randolph or Curry will ever be.

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    Chris Paul is 6'0" and far more skilled then DJ, but your obviously biased here.

    I'm not saying Brook WAS a role player, I'm just saying that he WILL be. He isn't a star player. People need to get it through their heads, there aren't twenty allstars in every draft. Honestly, I'm thinking tops 3 allstars in this draft. Oj, Bease, Rose. And Rose is a maybe. Brook never really stood out to me in college when I saw him play. People just have a need to put a 7 footer in the top10.


    Oh, and BTW, you never said that this was for who we could get, the topic is "who do you want to draft." I want to move up and get Mike Beasely.

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    Augustin's sophomore year

    37 mpg
    19.2 ppg
    6.0 assists
    3.0 rebounds
    44% FG
    80% FT
    38% 3 pts
    2.8 TO
    1.2 SPG

    TJ Ford's sophomore year (won national player of the year at Texas)

    33.6 mpg
    15.0 ppg
    7.7 assists
    3.9 rebounds
    40% FG
    82% FT
    27% 3 pts
    3.2 TO

    Chris Paul's sophomore year

    33.4 mpg
    15.2 ppg
    6.6 assists
    ?? rebounds (can't find)
    45% FG
    83% FT
    47% 3 pt
    2.8 TO

    Deron Williams junior year

    33.7 mpg
    12.5 ppg
    6.8 assists
    ?? rebounds (can't find)
    43% FG
    68% FT
    36% 3 pt
    2.8 TO

    Jameer Nelson senior year

    33.9 mpg
    20.6 ppg
    5.3 assists
    ?? rebounds
    48% FG
    79% FT
    39% 3 pt
    2.8 TO


    This a potential Steve Nash clone; passing on him would be ignorant. We need a matured complete PG, with a lot of dimensions. DJ is that guy; the best passer and pure PG in the nation.

    You haven't seen Lopez play enough.




    He's the most fundamental and skilled big man in the draft, along one of the best defenders you can find at his position. A 7 footer with good shooting form and consistency is always valuable, along with Lopez's ability to destroy his man in the paint in a variety of ways.

    Lopez has two weaknesses; rebounding and aggressiveness. Weaknesses doesn't mean something you're terrible at, Lopez is just a B level rebounder. Derrick Rose is a C level shooter, but has other qualities that make him a top 5 pick just like Lopez.

    Size
    Length
    Frame
    Hands
    Coordination
    Timing
    Ability to run the floor
    Ability to establish position in post
    Ability to draw fouls
    Post-scoring
    Jump-hook
    Ability to face-up
    Medium-range jump-shot
    Perimeter shooting potential
    A presence in post defensively
    Lateral quickness
    Intelligence
    Extremely productive
    Plays under control


    Lopez isn't a guy who's going to be at an MVP status, but he'll definately work his way to one of the better centers in the NBA.

    Beasley and Rose are locks for Miami and Chicago, trading up is really unrealistic.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    He's the most fundamental and skilled big man in the draft, along one of the best defenders you can find at his position. A 7 footer with good shooting form and consistency is always valuable, along with Lopez's ability to destroy his man in the paint in a variety of ways.

    Lopez has two weaknesses; rebounding and aggressiveness. Weaknesses doesn't mean something you're terrible at, Lopez is just a B level rebounder. Derrick Rose is a C level shooter, but has other qualities that make him a top 5 pick just like Lopez.

    • Size
    • Length
    • Frame
    • Hands
    • Coordination
    • Timing
    • Ability to run the floor
    • Ability to establish position in post
    • Ability to draw fouls
    • Post-scoring
    • Jump-hook
    • Ability to face-up
    • Medium-range jump-shot
    • Perimeter shooting potential
    • A presence in post defensively
    • Lateral quickness
    • Intelligence
    • Extremely productive
    • Plays under control


    Lopez isn't a guy who's going to be at an MVP status, but he'll definately work his way to one of the better centers in the NBA.

    Beasley and Rose are locks for Miami and Chicago, trading up is really unrealistic.
    Unfortunately for the Knicks, the Timberwolves could use another big man to put in the frontcourt with Al Jefferson.
    I hope the Timberwolves don't draft Lopez, but it's highly unlikely that they'll pass up on him. I think
    DJ Augustin, OJ Mayo, or Anthony Randolph would make a good pick, if the Knicks are unable to draft Lopez.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Unfortunately for the Knicks, the Timberwolves could use another big man to put in the frontcourt with Al Jefferson.
    I hope the Timberwolves don't draft Lopez, but it's highly unlikely that they'll pass up on him. I think
    DJ Augustin, OJ Mayo, or Anthony Randolph would make a good pick, if the Knicks are unable to draft Lopez.
    They'd be dumb to pass him up. Al Jefferson was playing great at C, just imagine him at his natural positioin. Plus having a 7 footer will free him up. Its a good move to just help Al Jefferson.

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    You dont know what to expect from Kevin McFail, being a dumb gm and a former celtic

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