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    Default New coaching options emerge: Avery, Mike D, Sam Mitchell, Flip

    Coaches are getting fired by the minute. All of a sudden Mark Jackson isn't looking like a lock to take the riegns of Knicks next season...

    I used to be a big Avery fan, but I never seem a team fall apart as fast the Mavs did this past week.

    Mike DiAntoni is respected, but I don't know how well he can do without those fast Suns style players.

    Sam Mitchell doesn't impress me much. Just 2 seasons ago he was tryna start fist fights with players on his team.

    Flip might be an interesing option, but if a team like the Pistons phase him out, imagine what these *******s on the Knicks would do.

    If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.

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    I like Mike D'Antoni. This team certainly is not built to run his style. That's okay because this team isn't built to run any style. This team simply stinks. What we need is a new coach and to build a team that follows his style starting with this year's draft. Kinda like what the New Orleans Hornets did when they hired Byron Scott.

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    Avery Johnson has the winnest regular season record in history.

    He is always going to command the team...and if it wasn't for the acquisition of Jason Kidd, he might still be in the playoffs.

    The Mavs fell apart because Jason Kidd didn't care.

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    Originally Posted by easternconferencesupporte
    Avery Johnson has the winnest regular season record in history.

    He is always going to command the team...and if it wasn't for the acquisition of Jason Kidd, he might still be in the playoffs.

    The Mavs fell apart because Jason Kidd didn't care.
    It's fitting Byron Scott took Kidd out with his new and better point guard

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    Originally Posted by Starks
    It's fitting Byron Scott took Kidd out with his new and better point guard
    WOW I never made that connection! Jason has to feel dumb right now

    About the coach search....I think that Avery will end up with the Bulls. I dont think he will go from a playoff team to a rebuilding situation. The Bulls have the peices to be competative right away. Althoug I think Avery would whip players into shape quick

    Mik D is not a realistic option, his no D philosophy will fit our teams structure, but we dont have the pass first PG needed for the Offense to work. Plus the offense still requires team work, which these Knicks show none of.

    Flip Saunders couldnt win with KG, nor could he get past the one man attack of Cle last season.

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    The Knicks should hire Avery Johnson TODAY!
    the day after he was Fired.

    Just to prove Cuban made a BIG mistake trading young Devin Harris for an old Jason Kidd in the uptempo speed of the Western Conference.

    I'm hoping Larry Brown call up Hanner & Herb Williams to come help him out with the Bobcats.
    Then maybe we could hire both Avery Johnson and Mark Jackson as his assistant.

    I dont want Toronto Mitchell, or Bum Karl, or Mike D., or JVG, or Herb Williams. If Walsh would have hired Bum Skiles, I would have started Bashing on him that same day, the same way I did to Isiah when he brang Marbury to the Knicks.

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    Originally Posted by Starks
    Coaches are getting fired by the minute. All of a sudden Mark Jackson isn't looking like a lock to take the riegns of Knicks next season...

    I used to be a big Avery fan, but I never seem a team fall apart as fast the Mavs did this past week.

    Mike DiAntoni is respected, but I don't know how well he can do without those fast Suns style players.

    Sam Mitchell doesn't impress me much. Just 2 seasons ago he was tryna start fist fights with players on his team.

    Flip might be an interesing option, but if a team like the Pistons phase him out, imagine what these *******s on the Knicks would do.

    If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.
    I agree with you, i think avery is the best option out of that list but his voice rules him out. I like the idea of mark jackson coaching the knicks, either him or tom thibod..u..e..?..uhh

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    Avery is the best canidate out of all them.

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    Avery got a raw deal and I'm now convinced that Cuban knows dick about basketball. The Mavs were a disaster waiting to happen. They've got no leader, no heart and no defense. There was a time (two years ago) where the Mavs had promise in a weakened Western Conference and Avery inherited at the time, a good team. I want no parts of Mike DiAntoni. Nether coach is defensive minded. That run and gun **** is through.

    I know this is not a popular view, it's not sexy so the media wont jump on it, but the best coach for the Knicks is Tom Thibodeau of the Celtics. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Thibodeau is a defensive specialist with 15 years of experience. We've had big name coaches before. Karl, Avery and DiAntoni can't save us and nether can commentators and sports analysts. Walsh should really be looking at Thibodeau, Herb Williams, Avery Johnson, Paul Silas... I think the list should end there.
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    Originally Posted by donchris
    Avery got a raw deal and I'm now convinced that Cuban no's dick about basketball. The Mavs were a disaster waiting to happen. They've got no leader, no heart and no defense. There was a time (two years ago) where the Mavs had promise in a weakened Western Conference and Avery inherited at the time, a good team. I want no parts of Mike DiAntoni. Nether coach is defensive minded. That run and gun **** is through.
    Originally Posted by donchris
    Walsh should really be looking at Thibodeau, Herb Williams, Avery Johnson, Paul Silas... I think the list should end there.
    You said neither D'antoni nor Avery were defensive minded coaches but you still included Avery on your short list at the end.

    Anyway I agree with you on Tom Thibodeau. He's a very promising coach. Reason why I've stopped mentioning his name was because I'm starting to doubt he'll end up with the Knicks. But I'd rather he stay with the Celtics than end up with the Bulls if we can't get him (I'd want the Bulls to play awful for a few more seasons just so we could call it quits after Isiah's one-sided transactions with them). Thibodeau's definitely a perfect fit for the Knicks. I have a feeling he'll be like Jeff Van Gundy without the feistiness. And I hope we get Jackson and Ewing as assistants.

    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    With Walsh taking his time making this coaching decision, I don't think its going to be a layup that Jackson will be the new coach, seems Walsh is waiting for the playoffs to end to interview potential candidates.
    Let's hope so. Though I wouldn't mind Jackson being the head coach, I sincerely believe he still has more of the caliber of an assistant coach.

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    Originally Posted by lanceroy
    You said neither D'antoni nor Avery were defensive minded coaches but you still included Avery on your short list at the end.

    Anyway I agree with you on Tom Thibodeau. He's a very promising coach. Reason why I've stopped mentioning his name was because I'm starting to doubt he'll end up with the Knicks. But I'd rather he stay with the Celtics than end up with the Bulls if we can't get him (I'd want the Bulls to play awful for a few more seasons just so we could call it quits after Isiah's one-sided transactions with them). Thibodeau's definitely a perfect fit for the Knicks. I have a feeling he'll be like Jeff Van Gundy without the feistiness. And I hope we get Jackson and Ewing as assistants.



    Let's hope so. Though I wouldn't mind Jackson being the head coach, I sincerely believe he still has more of the caliber of an assistant coach.
    On the strength that Avery was coach of the year two seasons ago, he's got to get a look. But I agree, Thibodeau would be the best choice. To me Mike D'antoni's philosophy is too close to what Isiah was trying to do, that was Zek's blueprint and for us that would be going backwards. Let Mike go to Toronto just to be fired in another three years. I wouldn't touch Flip with a 10 foot poll.

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    Clean the whole roster, I say, and start afresh!

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    Knicks need a coach who knows how to develop young players and TEACH. A coach with patience who enforces strong work ethic and a guy with high standards for his players.


    STOP LOOKING AT NAMES...its more than just the name. Larry Brown sucked **** in New York because he wasn't the right fit for the type of team Knicks had, or whatever you called that disaster Isiah created.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Knicks need a coach who knows how to develop young players and TEACH. A coach with patience who enforces strong work ethic and a guy with high standards for his players.


    STOP LOOKING AT NAMES...its more than just the name. Larry Brown sucked **** in New York because he wasn't the right fit for the type of team Knicks had, or whatever you called that disaster Isiah created.
    lol To this day, I don't know one thing the Knicks are good at. They have no defense. They sometimes go through long droughts without scoring. 70% of the players are 1 dimensional. The players that aren't 1 dimensional are inconsistent. The "team" rarely plays as a team(30th in the NBA in assists per game). There is no team chemistry, because some of the players like to run up and down the floor, and other players like to post up in the half court. 3/5 of the Knick starting lineup has players who are overweight. Half of the Knick roster can't shoot free throws, and 1/4 of the Knick roster has problems making layups and shooting wide open jump shots.
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    I think D'atoni is a better fit than Avery IMO

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