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    Default New coaching options emerge: Avery, Mike D, Sam Mitchell, Flip

    Coaches are getting fired by the minute. All of a sudden Mark Jackson isn't looking like a lock to take the riegns of Knicks next season...

    I used to be a big Avery fan, but I never seem a team fall apart as fast the Mavs did this past week.

    Mike DiAntoni is respected, but I don't know how well he can do without those fast Suns style players.

    Sam Mitchell doesn't impress me much. Just 2 seasons ago he was tryna start fist fights with players on his team.

    Flip might be an interesing option, but if a team like the Pistons phase him out, imagine what these *******s on the Knicks would do.

    If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.

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    I like Mike D'Antoni. This team certainly is not built to run his style. That's okay because this team isn't built to run any style. This team simply stinks. What we need is a new coach and to build a team that follows his style starting with this year's draft. Kinda like what the New Orleans Hornets did when they hired Byron Scott.

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    Avery Johnson has the winnest regular season record in history.

    He is always going to command the team...and if it wasn't for the acquisition of Jason Kidd, he might still be in the playoffs.

    The Mavs fell apart because Jason Kidd didn't care.

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    Originally Posted by easternconferencesupporte
    Avery Johnson has the winnest regular season record in history.

    He is always going to command the team...and if it wasn't for the acquisition of Jason Kidd, he might still be in the playoffs.

    The Mavs fell apart because Jason Kidd didn't care.
    It's fitting Byron Scott took Kidd out with his new and better point guard

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    Originally Posted by Starks
    It's fitting Byron Scott took Kidd out with his new and better point guard
    WOW I never made that connection! Jason has to feel dumb right now

    About the coach search....I think that Avery will end up with the Bulls. I dont think he will go from a playoff team to a rebuilding situation. The Bulls have the peices to be competative right away. Althoug I think Avery would whip players into shape quick

    Mik D is not a realistic option, his no D philosophy will fit our teams structure, but we dont have the pass first PG needed for the Offense to work. Plus the offense still requires team work, which these Knicks show none of.

    Flip Saunders couldnt win with KG, nor could he get past the one man attack of Cle last season.

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    The Knicks should hire Avery Johnson TODAY!
    the day after he was Fired.

    Just to prove Cuban made a BIG mistake trading young Devin Harris for an old Jason Kidd in the uptempo speed of the Western Conference.

    I'm hoping Larry Brown call up Hanner & Herb Williams to come help him out with the Bobcats.
    Then maybe we could hire both Avery Johnson and Mark Jackson as his assistant.

    I dont want Toronto Mitchell, or Bum Karl, or Mike D., or JVG, or Herb Williams. If Walsh would have hired Bum Skiles, I would have started Bashing on him that same day, the same way I did to Isiah when he brang Marbury to the Knicks.

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    Out those people on the list, I think Sam Mitchell would make the best fit.

    1. Sam Mitchell is a former teammate of Stephon Marbury, so I see some team chemistry being made, if Mitchell is signed.

    2. Also, he has coaching experience that led to two consecutive playoff berths(including a Raptor franchise record 47 wins last year).

    3. And if that isn't good enough, he's the 2007 NBA Coach of the Year.

    Another good pick would be Mike D'Antoni, but he played for a team that allowed more points per game than the Knicks. I don't know if you want the kind of coach coaching a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in over 4 years, and that severely lacks defense.

    I still prefer Patrick Ewing and Mark Jackson for the coaching job(s), but I wouldn't mind if Sam Mitchell coached the Knicks, and I could accept if Mike D'Antoni coaches the Knicks, because at least he has coaching experience.

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    check out the radio interview on espn.com with Avery.

    He gets wayy too much crap for the Kidd. Bottom line is that he is a coach not a GM. He doesn't get paid to make personnel moves even if it was true that he pushed for this trade.

    Kidd underperformed and really never came out to play. Players with Kidd's years and background aren't easy to coach since they do things their way. Think about it...what influential coach was Kidd ever with?

    Everyone new the Mavs had no chance in this series. You had Dirk out there talking about his team in the past tense when it wasn't officially over, and then you have Josh Howard passing flyers around about his birthday party after a huge loss. Think about all that. Frankly, if you were a coach that didn't make lose your mind over that, then you are not in the right profession.

    I want that kind of fire that Avery has here in NYC. He's a great personality, media friendly, was a very intelligent hard working point guard, owns a .750 winning percentage, and more importantly was groomed by two Hall of fame coaches in Greg Popovich and Don Nelson.

    With the situation in NYC, forget everything about the current roster because all these heartless stiffs will be on different teams or retired in less than 3 years. This is Walsh's team.

    Go get him Donnie. Sorry Herb, but atleast you can still hold a clipboard and waddle around the bench if you want.

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    KNicks should hire avery johnson as coach and mark jackson as assistant coach.....

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    avery johnson is a no brainer, he doesnt make the trades.

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    I'm not sure Kidd's heart is exactly to blame for the Mavs' collapse. First of all they immediately went against New Orleans. And basically they just didn't click or had enough time to gel. But I sincerely don't think Avery deserved to get the boot. And that was an embarrassing way to get fired - immediately after the last game. That was harsh!

    Honestly I'd rather have Mark Jackson and/or Ewing as assistants but wouldn't mind if Jackson gets the head coaching job. However a better set-up could be Avery at the helm with those two former Knicks as assistants.

    I wouldn't go for D'antoni. I think highly of him. He's a great coach. Just got unlucky. But our players are turtles. They're more suited to a halfcourt style of play. Mitchell is average for me. Really? I didn't know there were rumors of Flip getting fired too.
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    Originally Posted by Starks
    Coaches are getting fired by the minute. All of a sudden Mark Jackson isn't looking like a lock to take the riegns of Knicks next season...

    I used to be a big Avery fan, but I never seem a team fall apart as fast the Mavs did this past week.

    Mike DiAntoni is respected, but I don't know how well he can do without those fast Suns style players.

    Sam Mitchell doesn't impress me much. Just 2 seasons ago he was tryna start fist fights with players on his team.

    Flip might be an interesing option, but if a team like the Pistons phase him out, imagine what these *******s on the Knicks would do.

    If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.
    I agree with you, i think avery is the best option out of that list but his voice rules him out. I like the idea of mark jackson coaching the knicks, either him or tom thibod..u..e..?..uhh

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    Avery is the best canidate out of all them.

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    Originally Posted by lanceroy
    I'm not sure Kidd's heart is exactly to blame for the Mavs' collapse. First of all they immediately went against New Orleans. And basically they just didn't click or had enough time to gel. But I sincerely don't think Avery deserved to get the boot. And that was an embarrassing way to get fired - immediately after the last game. That was harsh!

    Honestly I'd rather have Mark Jackson and/or Ewing as assistants but wouldn't mind if Jackson gets the head coaching job. However a better set-up could be Avery at the helm with those two former Knicks as assistants.

    I wouldn't go for D'antoni. I think highly of him. He's a great coach. Just got unlucky. But our players are turtles. They're more suited to a halfcourt style of play. Mitchell is average for me. Really? I didn't know there were rumors of Flip getting fired too.
    Avery with Jackson and Ewing as his assistants is a great idea. Avery is going to be in demand, not sure if he would like the situation here in NY.

    With Walsh taking his time making this coaching decision, I don't think its going to be a layup that Jackson will be the new coach, seems Walsh is waiting for the playoffs to end to interview potential candidates.

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    Avery got a raw deal and I'm now convinced that Cuban knows dick about basketball. The Mavs were a disaster waiting to happen. They've got no leader, no heart and no defense. There was a time (two years ago) where the Mavs had promise in a weakened Western Conference and Avery inherited at the time, a good team. I want no parts of Mike DiAntoni. Nether coach is defensive minded. That run and gun **** is through.

    I know this is not a popular view, it's not sexy so the media wont jump on it, but the best coach for the Knicks is Tom Thibodeau of the Celtics. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Thibodeau is a defensive specialist with 15 years of experience. We've had big name coaches before. Karl, Avery and DiAntoni can't save us and nether can commentators and sports analysts. Walsh should really be looking at Thibodeau, Herb Williams, Avery Johnson, Paul Silas... I think the list should end there.
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