New coaching options emerge: Avery, Mike D, Sam Mitchell, Flip

Starks

Starter
Coaches are getting fired by the minute. All of a sudden Mark Jackson isn't looking like a lock to take the riegns of Knicks next season...

I used to be a big Avery fan, but I never seem a team fall apart as fast the Mavs did this past week.

Mike DiAntoni is respected, but I don't know how well he can do without those fast Suns style players.

Sam Mitchell doesn't impress me much. Just 2 seasons ago he was tryna start fist fights with players on his team.

Flip might be an interesing option, but if a team like the Pistons phase him out, imagine what these assholes on the Knicks would do.

If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.
 

KnicksFan112

Benchwarmer
I like Mike D'Antoni. This team certainly is not built to run his style. That's okay because this team isn't built to run any style. This team simply stinks. What we need is a new coach and to build a team that follows his style starting with this year's draft. Kinda like what the New Orleans Hornets did when they hired Byron Scott.
 
Avery Johnson has the winnest regular season record in history.

He is always going to command the team...and if it wasn't for the acquisition of Jason Kidd, he might still be in the playoffs.

The Mavs fell apart because Jason Kidd didn't care.
 

Starks

Starter
Avery Johnson has the winnest regular season record in history.

He is always going to command the team...and if it wasn't for the acquisition of Jason Kidd, he might still be in the playoffs.

The Mavs fell apart because Jason Kidd didn't care.

It's fitting Byron Scott took Kidd out with his new and better point guard
 

New New York

Quiet Storm
It's fitting Byron Scott took Kidd out with his new and better point guard

WOW I never made that connection! Jason has to feel dumb right now

About the coach search....I think that Avery will end up with the Bulls. I dont think he will go from a playoff team to a rebuilding situation. The Bulls have the peices to be competative right away. Althoug I think Avery would whip players into shape quick

Mik D is not a realistic option, his no D philosophy will fit our teams structure, but we dont have the pass first PG needed for the Offense to work. Plus the offense still requires team work, which these Knicks show none of.

Flip Saunders couldnt win with KG, nor could he get past the one man attack of Cle last season.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
The Knicks should hire Avery Johnson TODAY!
the day after he was Fired.

Just to prove Cuban made a BIG mistake trading young Devin Harris for an old Jason Kidd in the uptempo speed of the Western Conference.

I'm hoping Larry Brown call up Hanner & Herb Williams to come help him out with the Bobcats.
Then maybe we could hire both Avery Johnson and Mark Jackson as his assistant.

I dont want Toronto Mitchell, or Bum Karl, or Mike D., or JVG, or Herb Williams. If Walsh would have hired Bum Skiles, I would have started Bashing on him that same day, the same way I did to Isiah when he brang Marbury to the Knicks.
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Out those people on the list, I think Sam Mitchell would make the best fit.

1. Sam Mitchell is a former teammate of Stephon Marbury, so I see some team chemistry being made, if Mitchell is signed.

2. Also, he has coaching experience that led to two consecutive playoff berths(including a Raptor franchise record 47 wins last year).

3. And if that isn't good enough, he's the 2007 NBA Coach of the Year.

Another good pick would be Mike D'Antoni, but he played for a team that allowed more points per game than the Knicks. I don't know if you want the kind of coach coaching a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in over 4 years, and that severely lacks defense.

I still prefer Patrick Ewing and Mark Jackson for the coaching job(s), but I wouldn't mind if Sam Mitchell coached the Knicks, and I could accept if Mike D'Antoni coaches the Knicks, because at least he has coaching experience.
 

Starks

Starter
check out the radio interview on espn.com with Avery.

He gets wayy too much crap for the Kidd. Bottom line is that he is a coach not a GM. He doesn't get paid to make personnel moves even if it was true that he pushed for this trade.

Kidd underperformed and really never came out to play. Players with Kidd's years and background aren't easy to coach since they do things their way. Think about it...what influential coach was Kidd ever with?

Everyone new the Mavs had no chance in this series. You had Dirk out there talking about his team in the past tense when it wasn't officially over, and then you have Josh Howard passing flyers around about his birthday party after a huge loss. Think about all that. Frankly, if you were a coach that didn't make lose your mind over that, then you are not in the right profession.

I want that kind of fire that Avery has here in NYC. He's a great personality, media friendly, was a very intelligent hard working point guard, owns a .750 winning percentage, and more importantly was groomed by two Hall of fame coaches in Greg Popovich and Don Nelson.

With the situation in NYC, forget everything about the current roster because all these heartless stiffs will be on different teams or retired in less than 3 years. This is Walsh's team.

Go get him Donnie. Sorry Herb, but atleast you can still hold a clipboard and waddle around the bench if you want.
 

lanceroy

Benchwarmer
I'm not sure Kidd's heart is exactly to blame for the Mavs' collapse. First of all they immediately went against New Orleans. And basically they just didn't click or had enough time to gel. But I sincerely don't think Avery deserved to get the boot. And that was an embarrassing way to get fired - immediately after the last game. That was harsh!

Honestly I'd rather have Mark Jackson and/or Ewing as assistants but wouldn't mind if Jackson gets the head coaching job. However a better set-up could be Avery at the helm with those two former Knicks as assistants.

I wouldn't go for D'antoni. I think highly of him. He's a great coach. Just got unlucky. But our players are turtles. They're more suited to a halfcourt style of play. Mitchell is average for me. Really? I didn't know there were rumors of Flip getting fired too.
 
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MSGKnickz33

The Gold Mac
Coaches are getting fired by the minute. All of a sudden Mark Jackson isn't looking like a lock to take the riegns of Knicks next season...

I used to be a big Avery fan, but I never seem a team fall apart as fast the Mavs did this past week.

Mike DiAntoni is respected, but I don't know how well he can do without those fast Suns style players.

Sam Mitchell doesn't impress me much. Just 2 seasons ago he was tryna start fist fights with players on his team.

Flip might be an interesing option, but if a team like the Pistons phase him out, imagine what these assholes on the Knicks would do.

If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.

I agree with you, i think avery is the best option out of that list but his voice rules him out. I like the idea of mark jackson coaching the knicks, either him or tom thibod..u..e..?..uhh
 

tiger0330

Legend
I'm not sure Kidd's heart is exactly to blame for the Mavs' collapse. First of all they immediately went against New Orleans. And basically they just didn't click or had enough time to gel. But I sincerely don't think Avery deserved to get the boot. And that was an embarrassing way to get fired - immediately after the last game. That was harsh!

Honestly I'd rather have Mark Jackson and/or Ewing as assistants but wouldn't mind if Jackson gets the head coaching job. However a better set-up could be Avery at the helm with those two former Knicks as assistants.

I wouldn't go for D'antoni. I think highly of him. He's a great coach. Just got unlucky. But our players are turtles. They're more suited to a halfcourt style of play. Mitchell is average for me. Really? I didn't know there were rumors of Flip getting fired too.
Avery with Jackson and Ewing as his assistants is a great idea. Avery is going to be in demand, not sure if he would like the situation here in NY.

With Walsh taking his time making this coaching decision, I don't think its going to be a layup that Jackson will be the new coach, seems Walsh is waiting for the playoffs to end to interview potential candidates.
 

donchris

Next season, keep waiting
Avery got a raw deal and I'm now convinced that Cuban knows dick about basketball. The Mavs were a disaster waiting to happen. They've got no leader, no heart and no defense. There was a time (two years ago) where the Mavs had promise in a weakened Western Conference and Avery inherited at the time, a good team. I want no parts of Mike DiAntoni. Nether coach is defensive minded. That run and gun shit is through.

I know this is not a popular view, it's not sexy so the media wont jump on it, but the best coach for the Knicks is Tom Thibodeau of the Celtics. http://www.nba.com/coachfile/tom_thibodeau/index.html
Thibodeau is a defensive specialist with 15 years of experience. We've had big name coaches before. Karl, Avery and DiAntoni can't save us and nether can commentators and sports analysts. Walsh should really be looking at Thibodeau, Herb Williams, Avery Johnson, Paul Silas... I think the list should end there.
 
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lanceroy

Benchwarmer
Avery got a raw deal and I'm now convinced that Cuban no's dick about basketball. The Mavs were a disaster waiting to happen. They've got no leader, no heart and no defense. There was a time (two years ago) where the Mavs had promise in a weakened Western Conference and Avery inherited at the time, a good team. I want no parts of Mike DiAntoni. Nether coach is defensive minded. That run and gun shit is through.

Walsh should really be looking at Thibodeau, Herb Williams, Avery Johnson, Paul Silas... I think the list should end there.

You said neither D'antoni nor Avery were defensive minded coaches but you still included Avery on your short list at the end.

Anyway I agree with you on Tom Thibodeau. He's a very promising coach. Reason why I've stopped mentioning his name was because I'm starting to doubt he'll end up with the Knicks. But I'd rather he stay with the Celtics than end up with the Bulls if we can't get him (I'd want the Bulls to play awful for a few more seasons just so we could call it quits after Isiah's one-sided transactions with them). Thibodeau's definitely a perfect fit for the Knicks. I have a feeling he'll be like Jeff Van Gundy without the feistiness. And I hope we get Jackson and Ewing as assistants.

With Walsh taking his time making this coaching decision, I don't think its going to be a layup that Jackson will be the new coach, seems Walsh is waiting for the playoffs to end to interview potential candidates.

Let's hope so. Though I wouldn't mind Jackson being the head coach, I sincerely believe he still has more of the caliber of an assistant coach.
 

pat

Starter
If I had to pick, I'm going to give Avery a second chance with Walsh keeping a close eye on him.

Nah, I don't like Avery. He relies on isos too heavily. I think that is the main point why the whole Kidd thing didn't work out in Dallas. As far as I watched their games, the basic idea was to put the ball in Dirk's and Josh Howard's hands and see what happens. But you don't need Jason Kidd for that. They would have been better of keeping that extra one-on-one Harris could deliver from time to time. I don't think that the Knicks have the right roster for this style of coaching (or will have in the near future).
 

Blas

Benchwarmer
I like Tom Thibodeau too. If the celtics loose to the hawks in the first round (BIG IF) then we may have a chance at him.

The only thing I'm scared of... I am not sure if Tom can handle the corruption or crap that happens in that front office. Going back to Avery, I am not sure he wants to even deal with it.

If we start winning games, I'm sure Dolan will become more hands-off making life easier for our coach.
 

donchris

Next season, keep waiting
You said neither D'antoni nor Avery were defensive minded coaches but you still included Avery on your short list at the end.

Anyway I agree with you on Tom Thibodeau. He's a very promising coach. Reason why I've stopped mentioning his name was because I'm starting to doubt he'll end up with the Knicks. But I'd rather he stay with the Celtics than end up with the Bulls if we can't get him (I'd want the Bulls to play awful for a few more seasons just so we could call it quits after Isiah's one-sided transactions with them). Thibodeau's definitely a perfect fit for the Knicks. I have a feeling he'll be like Jeff Van Gundy without the feistiness. And I hope we get Jackson and Ewing as assistants.



Let's hope so. Though I wouldn't mind Jackson being the head coach, I sincerely believe he still has more of the caliber of an assistant coach.

On the strength that Avery was coach of the year two seasons ago, he's got to get a look. But I agree, Thibodeau would be the best choice. To me Mike D'antoni's philosophy is too close to what Isiah was trying to do, that was Zek's blueprint and for us that would be going backwards. Let Mike go to Toronto just to be fired in another three years. I wouldn't touch Flip with a 10 foot poll.
 

dre48ny

Rotation player
Avery Johnson's resume is very respectable. He did a fine job as a player and coach. Many say he got outcoached in the finals, but the refs had some to do with the outcome of a game or two. The guy can coach man. I gotta admit though that his voice is too damn funny, his press conferences are hard to focus on sometimes. New York is pretty hostile and the media would have a blast with him. All fun aside, I would not mind having him as a coach. I think if D'Antoni gets fired, he'll end up in Dallas. I think it's between Jackson and Johnson; Ewing has to be in the mix though at least as an assistant.
 
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