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    New York Times:
    Whether Marbury will be traded, bought out of his contract or simply waived is yet to be determined. But people with close ties to Donnie Walsh, the team president, and Coach Mike D’Antoni consider Marbury’s departure a near certainty.
    Even before signing Duhon, the Knicks had resolved that they could not move forward while Marbury was still in the locker room. In their brief time with the franchise, Walsh and D’Antoni have learned how incredibly unpopular Marbury is with his teammates.
    For all of Marbury’s talent, the Knicks have not had a winning record since he joined the team in January 2004. He has played for five head coaches in four seasons and famously clashed with the last two, Larry Brown and Isiah Thomas. As team president, Thomas acquired Marbury in a blockbuster trade. They considered each other close friends. But their relationship soured in November and derailed the Knicks’ season.
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    Short of finding a team willing to take Marbury's $21.9-million expiring contract in a trade, the only other possibility is a buyout.

    "We've been given all assurances that they're not bringing Chris here to sit on the bench," Bradbury said.
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    Duhon had narrowed his choices down to New York and Orlando and he elected to sign with the Knicks because the club promised him a starting job. That promise suggests that the Knicks are prepared to release Marbury, whose contract expires in 12 months. Although Marbury is supremely more talented, the controversial point guard has alienated teammates as well as Garden chairman James Dolan, who remains loyal to former team president and coach Isiah Thomas.

    Duhon's arrival forces the Knicks to make a move with one of their guards and the likely candidate is Marbury. The Knicks would only trade Marbury if they can acquire a player who is in the final year of his contract.

    Otherwise, the team can either negotiate a buyout or release him outright. Nate Robinson and Mardy Collins are two point guards also under contract, and starting shooting guard Jamal Crawford can play the position.
    Could this really be the end of the Starbury era? I got just one comment I'd like to say regarding Duhon and all this expectations on their side of him starting, does this remind you guys of Jerome James' signing? LOL! I remember him bragging about being the new starter of the Knicks and we all know how that ended up - a waste of money. LOL! But of course I'm not saying Duhon's gonna meet the same fate. It just crossed my mind, but that's it. I'm actually starting to like Chris Duhon. And I'm glad Nash thinks Duhon's gonna learn well from D'Antoni the same way he did. I'm surprised about his night life problems though.. Hope it doesn't become an issue.

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    Yeah, I'd say Stephon is done. Thats too many writers saying there's a fire for Steph not to go. Signing Duhon also adds more fuel to the rumors.

    Flat out releasing Steph doesn't seem like the logical move but if the Knicks brass thinks he has negative value then he's done.

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    sadly or not so sadly stephon marbury WILL be gone before camp. his contract will either be waived or traded in an attempt to take perhaps a 2 year bad contract that will still expire before 10-11 in hopes of getting draft picks or a valuable piece. i think that is less likely to happen compared to just waiving him and calling it a day

    im sure a few teams even say the cavs for say wally and ben wallace would jump on this deal. ps im not saying id take that wally deal unless it involved a pick or two but im just giving you an idea. portland possible as well or even chicago

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    only way i see marbury being gone is by being bought(which i dont want), i dont see any team interested in marbury even though he's an expiring contract, all star break he'll get traded if he dont turn it around and i expect em to get bought out wit what ever team decides to get em

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    As long as he behaves himself and is not minimized by his injuries, I believe it is senseless simply to let Marbury go. Duhon is not at Marbury's level of physical ability. There will still be plenty of playing time for Duhon and perhaps he wil be the starter in his second year with the Knicks.

    Marbury could well be worth something at the trading deadline, partilcularly if he plays anywhere close to his potential. I think the writers are all jumping to the wrong conclusions. Marbury will be on a short leash, but the Knicks are not simply going to pay him and let him go.

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    Sorry, I had nothing noteworthy to post...
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    Stephon Marbury is the best player on this team, and whoever thinks otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. If the Knicks plan on waiving Marbury and starting Chris Duhon, I guarantee that the Knicks will finish with a franchise low 22 wins, if not less. The Knicks are a combined 22-66, in games that Marbury has missed, over the last 3 years. We will see a continuation to that, if they get rid of Marbuy and keep Chris Duhon.

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    Originally Posted by NYKnicks15
    sadly or not so sadly stephon marbury WILL be gone before camp. his contract will either be waived or traded in an attempt to take perhaps a 2 year bad contract that will still expire before 10-11 in hopes of getting draft picks or a valuable piece. i think that is less likely to happen compared to just waiving him and calling it a day

    im sure a few teams even say the cavs for say wally and ben wallace would jump on this deal. ps im not saying id take that wally deal unless it involved a pick or two but im just giving you an idea. portland possible as well or even chicago
    Yes all roads seem to lead to Marbury leaving, right even before the season. It's surprising, but maybe the situation in the team is worse than we all think despite his talent. One good point I read somewhere was that with him having a contract year, and hence would be wanting to push himself and showcase himself, he'd most likely be a detriment to the other guys especially the young ones, and obviously a disruption to the D'Antoni offense. Chicago could be a possible destination for Zach. As for Marbury, I'm not sure.

    Originally Posted by abcd
    Stephon Marbury is the best player on this team, and whoever thinks otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. If the Knicks plan on waiving Marbury and starting Chris Duhon, I guarantee that the Knicks will finish with a franchise low 22 wins, if not less.
    True Marbury is the best player on this team, or at least the 2nd best player, but without a doubt much much better than Duhon. But like I said it has probably come to the point when the "best player" isn't even worth keeping. And I think that tells a lot about Marbury's character. It's just amazing how his exit comes in the form of Duhon.

    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Signing Duhon also adds more fuel to the rumors.
    Yup. The turning point seems to be when the Knicks appeared to have promised Duhon the starting job.

    Originally Posted by datruth
    only way i see marbury being gone is by being bought(which i dont want), i dont see any team interested in marbury even though he's an expiring contract, all star break he'll get traded if he dont turn it around and i expect em to get bought out wit what ever team decides to get em
    I'm really surprised his expiring contract isn't worth much, or maybe other teams just don't want to give the Knicks what they want in return - draft picks and contracts that expire by 2010. But I just hope we don't just simply waive him.

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    If more reports pop up that Duhon is GURANTEED a starting spot then you'd have to say Marbury is out...but it's really risky putting all your faith to a kid that's never been a legit starter and pass up one more year with a veteran who i personally think wants a comeback and is a little hungry for this basketball season to start. And we all know when Marbury wants to play and take over, he does just that, and does it well. I think signing Duhon to 2 year 12 million was big for a guy like him but that's what you get for coming to the Knicks...big contracts. But being that Walsh is planning for most of his players contracts to expire 2010 he has a vision and and a plan...and Duhon is just a gurantee that Walsh doesnt turn out looking like an Isiah an getting no body in free agency. Buying out Marbury is foolish unless he becomes a distraction off the bat but being what he's gone through recently with his father dieing, i think Marbury is growing up a little bit and might show some leadership this year i expect a turn around for him...maybe my hopes are too high for this guy because his ego is the size of a planet...but this year is dif for Marbury...off the court troubles personally for him...new coach (players coach), new management, i think he'll want to impress more than ever.

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    Default Marbury to Boston?! San Antonio?! Miami?

    LOL! The media right now are pulling off ideas that Marbury might very well end up as a back-up in Boston, San Antonio, or in Miami! Boston and San Antonio? No way. Boston has always needed a back-up point guard but in now way are they gonna be interested with Marbury. They don't need any distractions now that their team chemistry and defense are solid and unbreakable. And San Antonio? They're still a championship-caliber team. Don't see why they'd take that much of a risk on Marbury, who isn't even past his prime yet. He'd most certainly try to take the limelight instead of being a reliable player off the bench. And more importantly, can you envision Marbury playing off the bench?? As for Miami.. maybe just maybe.. he could end up there and start alongside Wade. If he ends up there then great and good luck to him. He might even flourish there. But I just can't see it happening.

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    yo there is no way stephon is leaving NY before then end of the season. It would be THE stupidest move by the knicks in recent history. And I'm tired of hearing it all over the news too cuz all the dumb ass sportscasters who know nothing about the knicks see stephon as a selfish player just because all they have heard about is when steph left after being benched for MARDY COLLINS.and isiah didn't help his reputation neither. The guy is our best player Sure he's a little over paid but so is everybody on this team.he's gonna have a career year this year with isiah out of his hair.

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    Nyk Logo Not sure, think it's a bad move

    This is a terrible move. Duhon BLOWS. He shoots worse then crawford.
    Marbury has talent and if he's been working his @ss off to get back to top form, maybe they should at least give him a shot?
    His contract is valuable if you were tryingto aquire another player, you could trade for another player signed long term, but thats not what the KNicks are trying to do. A team would gladly take a 20mil exp contract, and to get ride of 20 mill of contracts that term more then a year.
    But the knicks don't want to add contract years, they will only trade for an equal amount of exp contracts, which makes it a player for player or players deal. and makes steph not valuable to us or other teams. Unless we let him play and he produces, then he will be valuable, but then why trade him?

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    Originally Posted by jzero29
    This is a terrible move. Duhon BLOWS. He shoots worse then crawford.
    Marbury has talent and if he's been working his @ss off to get back to top form, maybe they should at least give him a shot?
    His contract is valuable if you were tryingto aquire another player, you could trade for another player signed long term, but thats not what the KNicks are trying to do. A team would gladly take a 20mil exp contract, and to get ride of 20 mill of contracts that term more then a year.
    But the knicks don't want to add contract years, they will only trade for an equal amount of exp contracts, which makes it a player for player or players deal. and makes steph not valuable to us or other teams. Unless we let him play and he produces, then he will be valuable, but then why trade him?
    Amen, I'm glad somebody finally pointed out Duhon's terrible fg%(a career 38.4%).

    I'd also like to point out the fact that Chris Duhon was about to get waived by the Bulls, earlier in the 07-08 season. They only kept him, because he had a 22 point, 15 assist game, and they thought that they could package him in a trade, after his performance. Duhon ain't all that. 12 million dollars was too much money for him. We could've probably signed Royal Ivey for less money(also a good defender who can play the point or two guard) or Mikael Pietrus(a better shooter than Duhon).

    Here's the link of the article where the Bulls were planning on waiving Duhon:
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    It's on the 7th paragraph.

    I thought it would've been good to sign Duhon, but the money he was given is rediculous.

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    marbury is a goner. i like stephon, as a person not so much as a teammater and of course as a player though. but hell end up in miami, if we can somehow swing a marion for marbs trade with the bad contract of blount included theyd be incredible. but highly unlikely unless we include dlee.

    anyway, i dont understand why we are bashing the duhon signing? he is a pure point guard.. isnt that what weve been asking for. not another scorer. a pure point guard who plays d and can run a team. we got one and we are gonna complain? and what does it matter on how much we spent for him? hell be off the books in 10-11 when we need him to be and his contract is an expiring one next season. big deal ppl. is it coming out of your paychecks? no. and if orlando made this signing van gundy and crew would look like geniuses.

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    Originally Posted by NYKnicks15
    marbury is a goner. i like stephon, as a person not so much as a teammater and of course as a player though. but hell end up in miami, if we can somehow swing a marion for marbs trade with the bad contract of blount included theyd be incredible. but highly unlikely unless we include dlee.

    anyway, i dont understand why we are bashing the duhon signing? he is a pure point guard.. isnt that what weve been asking for. not another scorer. a pure point guard who plays d and can run a team. we got one and we are gonna complain? and what does it matter on how much we spent for him? hell be off the books in 10-11 when we need him to be and his contract is an expiring one next season. big deal ppl. is it coming out of your paychecks? no. and if orlando made this signing van gundy and crew would look like geniuses.
    Duhon would make a good backup but not a starter. Like I said earlier, if the Knicks waive Marbury and start Duhon, they will finish with a franchise low 22 wins, if not less. Chris Duhon is not capable of being a starter on a successful team. The only team I could see him starting on is the Lakers(because they have Kobe) or the Miami Heat(because they have Dwyane Wade). The Knicks don't have Kobe or Wade. We have Crawford. A lineup of Duhon and Crawford will get crushed by 95% of the NBA's backcourts.

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