If Marbury gets bought out I Will Leave Knicksonline

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abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Knick overall record with Marbury: 113-168(.402)
Knick overall record without Marbury: 38-91(.294)

This is why the **** i can't stand Marbury supporters. Cats are seriously co-signing Marbury like the KNICKs are .700 with him in the games. I mean we are talking about 11%!!!!

11% better with him...equates to him still being on the team, and being paid 20 million dollars? It breaks my heart to say this...but shit I'd rather have Allan Houston back on the team for that price. Atleast when he failed...he didn't get in other people's way and show up the franchise with dissing the coaches, the management, and the fans.

How shitty have things gotten when 11% better with one player is acceptable to a TRUE KNICKS FAN?

Man it's like being happy to get a handjob, and she promised you pussy.The **** kind of Mickey Mouse shit is this!!!

Marbury has had 5 seasons to show me something...In the words of Riley Freeman...

"Looking real gay my *****"
Calm down, darth vader. Your bootleg style on this website makes you look like a joke. Try acting like yourself. This isn't I love New York. Acting like an idiot isn't going to get you any fame. My point was that the team plays better w/ Marbury than they do without him. The numbers prove my case. I also said, if you read my post carefully, that if Isiah made good trades, we might've made the playoffs. Is it easier to make moves and become a playoff team with a .402 team, or a .294 team? It's common sense. Try using some.

ps-the only gay person in here is you. I bet you watch the gay channel all the time, and you probably have hundreds of dollars in gay porn stashed in your bra.
 

metrocard

Legend
I've made myself pretty clear as to how much I hate Isiah. For some reason you think disliking Marbury means you're an Isiahsexual.

How long will you cry like a little girl when Marbury is gone? You said you would leave KOL for 2 months because he will no longer be on the team. Now that's just f*cking pathetic. Like I said before, a Marbury fan over a Knick fan. No more Marbury in a Knicks uniform. What will you masturbate too?

Everyone on this site proclaimed you as an Isiahsexual though, so you'll have to get over it and move it. We may not agree on everything, but you were an Isiahsexual who got burnt back in the day. Don't forget about your history.

I'm a Knick fan, everyone in this site knows my passion for this team. My statements are directed for the best for the Knicks.


I will lose all respect for you two if you boycott KOL if Marbury is traded or released. What does KOL have to do with that. It's not our decision to release Marbury. If it were mine, I'd shift him to the two and trade Crawford, but it's not. Not that I necessarily want you guys to keep posting because I appose nonsense and dickridery but don't bitch out. Pull your skirt back down B. People get traded every month B.


Calm down, I'll leave for two months or even more because I'll be working two jobs and going to school full time and won't have the time to post like I do now.

Knick overall record with Marbury: 113-168(.402)
Knick overall record without Marbury: 38-91(.294)

This is why the **** i can't stand Marbury supporters. Cats are seriously co-signing Marbury like the KNICKs are .700 with him in the games. I mean we are talking about 11%!!!!

11% better with him...equates to him still being on the team, and being paid 20 million dollars? It breaks my heart to say this...but shit I'd rather have Allan Houston back on the team for that price. Atleast when he failed...he didn't get in other people's way and show up the franchise with dissing the coaches, the management, and the fans.

How shitty have things gotten when 11% better with one player is acceptable to a TRUE KNICKS FAN?

Man it's like being happy to get a handjob, and she promised you pussy.The **** kind of Mickey Mouse shit is this!!!

Marbury has had 5 seasons to show me something...In the words of Riley Freeman...

"Looking real gay my *****"

40% > 29%.

Its a fact and a huge difference in team play. What would you rather have, a 49% team or a 60% team? Exactly, 11% is a huge difference, stop being depressed and just accept ABCD roasting you, it happends. You lack the facts, so when other dudes come in here with heavy facts that outweighs your irrelevant opinion, it becomes a slaughter.

Dissing the coaches?
Are you an Isiahsexual too?

I would diss Isiah on a daily basis if he was my coach.

He lets his players get out of shape.
Has no game plan.
Has no playing style.
Lets the worst defenders get the most playing time.
Puts his best player under the bus and uses him as the scapegoat.
Has new players every month.
Mad reasons to diss Isiah.

So you crying about Stephon dropping ether on Isiah makes you an Isiahsexual.

You caught feelings in defense for Isiah, you've been exposed now.

Ha, "True Knicks fan" If you're a "true Knicks fan", then me and many others would rather be "nontrue KNicks fan".

You've been getting slayed, b; its not looking pretty :lol:
 

Blumatic

Rotation player
This Marbury love fest is ridiculous. I have rooted for Steph for so long, but he always has beef with his coaches, if its not Steph's way it's the highway. That Chart that was posted was the worst kind of supporting evidence i've ever seen. I hope you never counsel for Steph.

Granted he never had the help, but you CAN NOT say that Steph is a leader of men. He lost me when he threatened to expose Isiah. Now, Isiah is an ass as well, but WOW, blackmailing?

Steph may need to be on a team where he is not that man and he has no clout. I still feel he has some power over this franchise, even though the regime has changed. Steph said he changed last year for the better, he found Christ, and all that stuff, and he just threatens his coach.

For the past 3 years he's been on the bench in the 4th quarter. I really don't see the point in Steph playing for the Knicks except to showcase for a deal.

If anybody still believes Steph will save this franchise, such a person has taken a blow to their basketball knowledge credibility.

Now Duhon, I dont believe in him either, but it's a good move, because the nature of the contract means he is he for the very short term. Cheap deal, short deal, younger player, i've heard of some run ins with coaches, but he is not the man here and it is short term.

GO KNICKS
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
This Marbury love fest is ridiculous. I have rooted for Steph for so long, but he always has beef with his coaches, if its not Steph's way it's the highway. That Chart that was posted was the worst kind of supporting evidence i've ever seen. I hope you never counsel for Steph.

Granted he never had the help, but you CAN NOT say that Steph is a leader of men. He lost me when he threatened to expose Isiah. Now, Isiah is an ass as well, but WOW, blackmailing?

Steph may need to be on a team where he is not that man and he has no clout. I still feel he has some power over this franchise, even though the regime has changed. Steph said he changed last year for the better, he found Christ, and all that stuff, and he just threatens his coach.

For the past 3 years he's been on the bench in the 4th quarter. I really don't see the point in Steph playing for the Knicks except to showcase for a deal.

If anybody still believes Steph will save this franchise, such a person has taken a blow to their basketball knowledge credibility.

Now Duhon, I dont believe in him either, but it's a good move, because the nature of the contract means he is he for the very short term. Cheap deal, short deal, younger player, i've heard of some run ins with coaches, but he is not the man here and it is short term.

GO KNICKS
The deal was short, but it was not cheap. Donnie Walsh had to spend 12 million dollars on Duhon, and he spent all of the MLE exception that was left. We could've got Keyon Dooling, Royal Ivey(defensive player of the year in college and would've cost less than 12 million dollars) or Mikael Pietrus, with that kind of money. We could've also got a free agent center-something that the Knicks desperately need with fat Curry, fat James, and free agent Morris on the team. Primoz Brezec or 76ers' Herbert Hill would've been a nice pickup for little money.
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Worst insult ever.
See, this is why we always have arguments. You always seem to get into people's business. I didn't even say anything to you, and you're already attacking me. lol Not only is what you're saying not true, I wasn't even talking to you. If this is one of your feeble attempts at becoming popular in this forum, because you're jealous of me, it's not working. If you wanna be at my level, I understand. A lot of people respect me on this site and they think I'm a good poster. You'll get there, too. Just post more often. No need to hate. And actually, I'm pretty sure there's people on this site that already like your posts. You do have a rep point, after all.
 

dr.carpy

Benchwarmer
Here's my point so that ABCD can shut up. The Knicks winning % with Marbury is .402. Great. Do you think that acceptable, I'd hate to see your report card. The personal attacks, their simply weak son. Do you believe Marbury is the greatest Knick ever? Cause peep this. Patrick Ewing, Walt Frazier, Mark Jackson, Charles Oakley all better Knick players have been traded. So **** Marbury! He shouldn't even be mentioned with those class of winners. If those guys aren't untouchable, why is Marbury? I'd love tosee this answer......
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Here's my point so that ABCD can shut up. The Knicks winning % with Marbury is .402. Great. Do you think that acceptable, I'd hate to see your report card. The personal attacks, their simply weak son. Do you believe Marbury is the greatest Knick ever? Cause peep this. Patrick Ewing, Walt Frazier, Mark Jackson, Charles Oakley all better Knick players have been traded. So **** Marbury! He shouldn't even be mentioned with those class of winners. If those guys aren't untouchable, why is Marbury? I'd love tosee this answer......
I just graduated High School, and I got accepted into CUNY. My grades are good. I wasn't making any personal attacks. Tuneraddict came out of left field and tried to insult me, and I didn't even say anything to him. You tried to insult me, and said if my mother gave me permission to stay up on the internet this late. You don't know me. You don't know my mother. So that's that. Stop trying to act like you're this angel that didn't say or do anything. People have fights with you on this website for a reason. I'm not the only one that has had arguments with you. You've also tried starting fights with MSG and metrocard on numerous occasions.

PS- Patrick Ewing was untouchable, at the time he was playing basketball. Scott Layden just made a stupid trade.
 

Paul1355

All Star
I just graduated High School, and I got accepted into CUNY. My grades are good. I wasn't making any personal attacks. Tuneraddict came out of left field and tried to insult me, and I didn't even say anything to him. You tried to insult me, and said if my mother gave me permission to stay up on the internet this late. You don't know me. You don't know my mother. So that's that. Stop trying to act like you're this angel that didn't say or do anything. People have fights with you on this website for a reason. I'm not the only one that has had arguments with you. You've also tried starting fights with MSG and metrocard on numerous occasions.

PS- Patrick Ewing was untouchable, at the time he was playing basketball. Scott Layden just made a stupid trade.

yo abcd you take this site too personal bro. Of course if someone wants to make you look like a fool there gonna say that your bedtime has passed or some shyt. Were messin around with eachother but trying to prove a statment...try to get around the insults of what people have said to you and just answer the questions best you can. No one cares if you graduated highschool or not or if you Mom gave you persmission to be on the internet...i dont care...but if you have a view i dont agree with im going to let you and everyone know about it. If people think your insults suck than thats their opinion let them say it, dont think that every insult is a personal attack that's just bein paranoid. The more you take everything personal the more everyone on this site will kill you verbally because everyone loves to mess wit the paranoid kid know what i mean? Just some advice.
 

metrocard

Legend
Here's my point so that ABCD can shut up. The Knicks winning % with Marbury is .402. Great. Do you think that acceptable, I'd hate to see your report card. The personal attacks, their simply weak son. Do you believe Marbury is the greatest Knick ever? Cause peep this. Patrick Ewing, Walt Frazier, Mark Jackson, Charles Oakley all better Knick players have been traded. So **** Marbury! He shouldn't even be mentioned with those class of winners. If those guys aren't untouchable, why is Marbury? I'd love tosee this answer......

Can you make a point without sounding sexually frustrated?


All ABCD pointed out was that Knicks are far worse without Marbury and he had the stats to back it up.
Its a PROVEN fact, so why not be a man and accept it and continue debating?

The problem with some people here is that they don't know when to accept when they're wrong or not, despite how much information is against them.

ABCD does his research for a reason.

Now you got him in a diss argument because you guys fail to understand simple facts.
 

dr.carpy

Benchwarmer
Since Metro and ABCD can't read I'll help y'all. THE KNICKS HAVE NEVER WON WITH MARBURY. Is that the truth or a lie? Have we hung a banner in the Marbury era? No. Will we? No. To point out a 40% win rate to support he's a winner is flat out stupid. Would you two dummies want the Knicks to keep rockin a hot .402 win rate? Marbury doesn't play D, doesn't distribute the ball to teammates where they can be effective (Kurt Thomas, Tim Thomas and KVH all complained of this). Plus he quit on the team last year and lied that he was told to go home! What is he, a 5 year old? If Isiah had said to stand in the corner, would he have done that too? Marbury is a career loser, and nobody can dispute that. The numbers ABCD supplied on reiterated what I've always said since day 1.
 

metrocard

Legend
A lie.

Knicks went 23-18 with Marbury after the trade.

So they won 23 times.

Basketball is a team sport, and over the last 5 years Marbury has had the whackest teammates you could find in the NBA.

Not even the top 10 players in the NBA could make the Knicks a .500 team, so whats the point of all this bitching?

Marbury isn't responsible for all the losing, I'm hoping your not as retarded as ugly and fat you are. So this shouldn't be one of your crazy ass beliefs no one would co-sign with.
 

GetRealistic

Starter
A lie.

Knicks went 23-18 with Marbury after the trade.

So they won 23 times.

Basketball is a team sport, and over the last 5 years Marbury has had the whackest teammates you could find in the NBA.

Not even the top 10 players in the NBA could make the Knicks a .500 team, so whats the point of all this bitching?

Marbury isn't responsible for all the losing, I'm hoping your not as retarded as ugly and fat you are. So this shouldn't be one of your crazy ass beliefs no one would co-sign with.


False. Subtract Marbury and add one of the top 10 players in the league and the Knicks would have been a 500 team no doubt about. Heres a few players that would have made the Knicks a .500 if it wasn't for Marbury.

Lebron
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq a few years back
Chris Paul
KG

Theres more but we'll leave it at that. Stop living for the one 3 month period Marbury had success here.
 

Blumatic

Rotation player
Who said that?

Find who said that or get out.

Get Out? Wow

Did I say anybody said it? No.

If anybody believes than yes. I was responding in general. So YOU must have an emotional attachment to Steph. I seen you post before an you are very knowledgeable. But to react to my post in attacking and personal matter matter proves you are an emotional dude.

So telling me to "Get Out" is a John Amaechi move. You have no ground for you words. You have just exposed yourself as an emotional one.

And if ANYONE HERE believes Steph will save this franchise or important to the Knicks on a basketball level is sadly mistaken. His still being a Knick is a financial strategy move.
 

datruth

Your Best Bet is B Ez
A lie.

Knicks went 23-18 with Marbury after the trade.

So they won 23 times.

Basketball is a team sport, and over the last 5 years Marbury has had the whackest teammates you could find in the NBA.

Not even the top 10 players in the NBA could make the Knicks a .500 team, so whats the point of all this bitching?

Marbury isn't responsible for all the losing, I'm hoping your not as retarded as ugly and fat you are. So this shouldn't be one of your crazy ass beliefs no one would co-sign with.

worst in da league??u gotta be kiddin me, theres talent on this team, this team is just missing a LEADER, something obviously marbury cant seem to be
 

metrocard

Legend
False. Subtract Marbury and add one of the top 10 players in the league and the Knicks would have been a 500 team no doubt about. Heres a few players that would have made the Knicks a .500 if it wasn't for Marbury.

Lebron
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq a few years back
Chris Paul
KG

Theres more but we'll leave it at that. Stop living for the one 3 month period Marbury had success here.


The 3 month period showed what Marbury is capable of. Why deny that fact?

Frank Williams
Shandon Anderson
Lebron James
Kurt Thomas
Nazr Mohammed

Frank Williams
Shandon Anderson
Tim Thomas
Tim Duncan
Nazr Mohammed

Frank Williams
Kobe Bryant
Tim Thomas
Kurt Thomas
Nazr Mohammed


Are you serious?

All of those rosters wouldn't get passed the Eastern Conference Champions NJ Nets.

The Knicks got WORSE as the seasons went by.

Marbury never had a real supporting cast to begin with, blaming him for the losing is straight up ignorant.

worst in da league??u gotta be kiddin me, theres talent on this team, this team is just missing a LEADER, something obviously marbury cant seem to be

DaTruth, the talent on this team has been overrated by Isiah since day 1. Crawford and Curry just aren't that good
 

lanceroy

Benchwarmer
23-18? And that's... hmm.. oh a total of 41 games! HALF A SEASON. And don't forget the playoff sweep where during that lone game we could have won, Marbs kept chucking up threes with us hanging on to a measly lead. And after that season?? Nothing.

We have to understand here that all that excitement from the 2nd half of that season was all spur of the moment. After what seemed like an enternity of having Eisley as the Knicks starting PG, we finally had a supposed star and leader, and that time we just weren't used yet to missing the playoffs. Right now there's practically no point hanging on to that 23-18 record and consider it one of the "good times" or evidence of Marbury's greatness. It's freakin' 2008 already! We've learned enough of him.

I've said this before, but why hold on to someone for one year, if it means nothing and he pisses his teammates off? With or without Marbury the Knicks are not going anywhere next year.

The only reason Donnie would buy out Marbury is because he is "incredibly unpopular with his teammates". It wouldn't make sense to buy out your best player in the final year of his contract unless he was negatively effecting the team.

I'm starting to wonder if you guys are Knick fans, or Marbury fans.

Don't know why some people keep ignoring this. A couple of Marbury supporters get all defensive and hostile thinking it's us who introduced the idea of buying him out in the first place.
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
yo abcd you take this site too personal bro. Of course if someone wants to make you look like a fool there gonna say that your bedtime has passed or some shyt. Were messin around with eachother but trying to prove a statment...try to get around the insults of what people have said to you and just answer the questions best you can. No one cares if you graduated highschool or not or if you Mom gave you persmission to be on the internet...i dont care...but if you have a view i dont agree with im going to let you and everyone know about it. If people think your insults suck than thats their opinion let them say it, dont think that every insult is a personal attack that's just bein paranoid. The more you take everything personal the more everyone on this site will kill you verbally because everyone loves to mess wit the paranoid kid know what i mean? Just some advice.
You don't know Dr. Carpy. He's started stuff with numerous people on this site. He called metrocard the B word on another thread. How is that playing around? I know what you're saying, cause you're probably not like Dr. Crappy, but he does like to start stuff with other people. I didn't insult Tuneraddict. He said things to me on two different threads, which led to arguments, and this is the third thread where he's said something to me. On a previous thread, he told me to stop crying about something that he didn't agree with me on, and I didn't even say anything to him. Then he was saying some stuff to me on the farewell Marbury thread. It sounds to me like he's trying to harass me, but I'm not into all that nonsense.
 

GetRealistic

Starter
The 3 month period showed what Marbury is capable of. Why deny that fact?

Frank Williams
Shandon Anderson
Lebron James
Kurt Thomas
Nazr Mohammed

Frank Williams
Shandon Anderson
Tim Thomas
Tim Duncan
Nazr Mohammed

Frank Williams
Kobe Bryant
Tim Thomas
Kurt Thomas
Nazr Mohammed


Are you serious?

All of those rosters wouldn't get passed the Eastern Conference Champions NJ Nets.

The Knicks got WORSE as the seasons went by.

Marbury never had a real supporting cast to begin with, blaming him for the losing is straight up ignorant.



DaTruth, the talent on this team has been overrated by Isiah since day 1. Crawford and Curry just aren't that good


You said that no superstar could have made this team .500 over the last 5 seasons Metro. You never said that no superstar would have helped us beat the Nets in one season.

Your telling me if we did an even up trade last season Lebron for Marbruy or Duncan for Marbury we wouldn't have been in .500 last season? Your nuts.

Superstars are supposed to make players better. And Marbury has never done that. The end

You also fail to mention during the 3 month period that Keith Van Horn probably was playing the best basketball of his career before being traded (forced out by Marbury) and Micheal Doleac and Kurt Thomas were in the mist of there best seasons.

Also what has he done since that 3 month period. The Knicks record with Marbury not counting that half a season is 90-150 thats 60 games under .500. Marbury has never even made an all-star team as a member of the Knicks. That means he's never been one of the 12 best players in the Eastern Conference.


Face the facts the "best player"/face of the franchise is blamed when the team does bad. If an NFL team is struggling the QB is blamed. If the Yankees struggle A-Rod gets the blame. When the Knicks are awful the highest paid, face of the franchise, "best player" gets blamed.
 
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