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    Well, I don't know where you got that I don't watch games, when I watch on average over 50-60 games a season.

    Crawford has a lot of flaws with his ball handling and tries to do much.
    I'm not doubting his ability, but he isn't a guy you want to have the ball in his hands, he's reckless.

    Crawford is one of the biggest reasons why we're such a bad team; do you really want me to go into discussion on that?


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    Originally Posted by metrocard

    Crawford is one of the biggest reasons why we're such a bad team; do you really want me to go into discussion on that?
    there are way bigger problems then crawford on this team, i just believe that da knicks shouldnt give em a big role, he's a great 3rd go to guy

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    Originally Posted by metrocard


    Well, I don't know where you got that I don't watch games, when I watch on average over 50-60 games a season.

    Crawford has a lot of flaws with his ball handling and tries to do much.
    I'm not doubting his ability, but he isn't a guy you want to have the ball in his hands, he's reckless.

    Crawford is one of the biggest reasons why we're such a bad team; do you really want me to go into discussion on that?

    Crawford isnt the problem if a guy can score 20 a game and 5 assist under a team with no chemistry and no confidence...then he isnt a problem...he was a positive last year and dont give that FG percent crap cuz he was the only player the Knicks counted on last year and he didnt always come through. He posted career numbers under Isiah Thomas i feel he'll do good this year and if he doesnt then he sint the guard we thought he could be.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard

    Well, I don't know where you got that I don't watch games, when I watch on average over 50-60 games a season.

    Crawford has a lot of flaws with his ball handling and tries to do much.
    I'm not doubting his ability, but he isn't a guy you want to have the ball in his hands, he's reckless.

    Crawford is one of the biggest reasons why we're such a bad team; do you really want me to go into discussion on that?
    wow....so u miss 22-32 knick games a year? thats a lot of action u missed out on my friend.....
    but on another note....he has ONE problem with his handles, and that is, he palms every now and then....name one other problem...why do opposing coaches put their best defenders on him if he sucks so much? why do they keep the ball out of his hands? opposing coaches know, that if crawford doesnt score, the knicks lose, (it was said on espn after all star break). i have a question, who else would have scored? quinten richardson??? **** outta here man, lets be real about the situation....crawford was the biggest problem??? last year , he was the only guy that didnt cause any problems on or off the court. no secret ratting about his teammates, no fights on the bench, no threatening to tell secrets about his coach(i believe thats the real reason donny dosent want steph, he's a rat ass ***** for threatening isiah, i dont care how much i hate zeke...no snitchin!)....and if u wanna get into that with me, lets get onto it ONE ON ONE, without the support of "team marbury" lets have a one on one, man to man debate about who was the biggest cancer last year causing another losing season....i will tear you apart....whenever ur ready let me kno...or u can just back out now and admit that jamaal was not one of the main causes.

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    isiah gave marbury a 100 million dollar contract....n wat does steph do to thank him/ he threatens to be a taddle tail to the MEDIA, on his own coach, thats kinda bitchass if u ask me

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    Originally Posted by Toons
    isiah gave marbury a 100 million dollar contract....n wat does steph do to thank him/ he threatens to be a taddle tail to the MEDIA, on his own coach, thats kinda bitchass if u ask me
    wasnt isiah who gave em dat contract, isiah just believed in em when nobody else did, dat's all

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    Toons, first of all, I'm being realistic when I say I saw 50-60 Knicks games. By reading your post I doubt you've watched half as many games.

    Time to end this thread debate for once and for all.

    Paul1355, you tripping.

    20 and 5 means nothing.
    Crawford gets 40 minutes a game. Do you think his 20 and 5 out impresses guys like Kobe, Paul, or other all star players who gets 40 minutes a game?

    Crawford isn't efficient.
    He gets 20 and 5 because he was allowed to dominate the ball and take majority of the perimeter shots.

    That lead to a lot of LOSING, fact.
    Why?
    Crawford isn't a player who can lead a team, instead he forces the team to watch himself play like a clown.
    A lot of isolation, missed shots, bad decisions with the ball and a lot of indecisive overall. He's a TERRIBLE first option and was the WORST first option in the NBA last season. Find me someone worse, thank you.

    Crawford wouldn't even be an efficient 3rd option on a WINNING TEAM.
    He belongs on the bench similar to Eddie House.

    You guys act like bitches about "Knicks counting on Crawford"
    Thats 100% bull****.
    Isiah gave this team to Crawford, does that excuse Crawford for playing like a dumbass all the time?
    No.

    Toons,


    Crawford isn't a good ball handler because he tries too hard to be fancy and doesn't make the right decisions with the ball. His basketball IQ is as low as it gets for a guy who's been in this league for so long (Whats this, his 6th or 7th year? Dude is already vet and plays like an 8th grader) and gets so many minutes.

    Who said Crawford sucks?
    He's a C level player.
    Thats average.
    Crawford just sucks **** as being the primary player on your team.
    **** ESPN and you're made up **** you have no SOURCE of providing here, just something you heard in your delusional Crawford-manlove mind. If you could provide an article or vid where a sports journalist said then, then do it; if not shut the **** up about it.
    So yeh, **** ESPN here's a fact.
    When Crawford is the primary option of your team.
    Your team is bound for the lottery.
    Your team is bound for a 50-60 loss season.
    Don't believe me?
    Look at Crawford's glory in the Bulls.
    Look at the Knicks the last 3-4 seasons under Crawford.
    It seems like we got WORSE when Crawford's role got bigger, check out the records.


    Crawford caused a lot of problems on the court, he played like the biggest dumbass on the Knicks and put us in a losing situation every game. But once or twice a season he would hit a game winning shot, while missing 15-20 of those, but still being proclaimed as "clutch" by the Crawfordsexuals. Funny right?

    You acting like a bitch right now, no snitching? **** that Cam'ron ****.
    If you don't like Isiah, how the hell can you like Crawford? Isiah is Crawford's Don. Crawford wore his number in dedication to Isiah and Isiah made Crawford untradable when he should of been traded two seasons ago.
    Crawford didn't say **** because Isiah had his back. So obviously a Crawfordsexual wouldn't beef with Isiah and Isiahsexuals so much.

    Marbury was tired of the losing and the manlove between Crawford/Isiah. He came to NYC to rep his hometown, and these midwest faggots weren't repping the Garden right. Marbury had EVERY RIGHT to call out Isiah's punkass for soiling the Garden with his draft blunders, free agent failures and complete debacles on trading with other teams making them better.

    How DARE you even take defense of a bitch like Isiah just for the sake of your homeboy Crawford. You pick this team first, and Isiah and Crawford hurted this team too much for them to be defended. A Knick fan defending Crawford is like Bush coming to the defense of the Taliban.

    Son, I got like 20 other paragraphs I could DESTROY Crawford with, I've been bashing Crawford for 3+ years already and got a ****load of information and facts that would already make this thread burn more than its already burn.

    Don't challenge me, **** Team Starbury...thats just a sarcastic thing; sensitive Isiahsexuals like you need to fall back and stop taking jokes so serious.

    Crawford has to go.
    LosingEST player in the NBA
    Heres a fact from not too long ago.

    Miami, Minnesota, Memphis, Seattle and New York are on pace to finish below the Crawford Line (.307) this season -- the most teams to finish with fewer than 26 wins since 2000-01. The Crawford Line is named in honor of New York Knicks guard Jamal Crawford, who has a career winning percentage of .307, worst among active players with at least 400 games played.




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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Crawford isnt the problem if a guy can score 20 a game and 5 assist under a team with no chemistry and no confidence...then he isnt a problem...he was a positive last year and dont give that FG percent crap cuz he was the only player the Knicks counted on last year and he didnt always come through. He posted career numbers under Isiah Thomas i feel he'll do good this year and if he doesnt then he sint the guard we thought he could be.
    I'm really tired of hearing about Crawful and his 20 and 5 average...

    20 a game doesn't matter when you let the guy you supposed to be guarding go off for 20-25 points! Guys like Matt Carroll, Mike Dunlevy Jr, and John Salmons, have All-Star like games against this jackass...

    Getting 5 assists a game is not a reason to brag when your tied for third on you team in assist/turnover ratio!

    I don't understand what peoples fasination with this scrub is...

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Toons, first of all, I'm being realistic when I say I saw 50-60 Knicks games. By reading your post I doubt you've watched half as many games.

    Time to end this thread debate for once and for all.

    Paul1355, you tripping.

    20 and 5 means nothing.
    Crawford gets 40 minutes a game. Do you think his 20 and 5 out impresses guys like Kobe, Paul, or other all star players who gets 40 minutes a game?

    Crawford isn't efficient.
    He gets 20 and 5 because he was allowed to dominate the ball and take majority of the perimeter shots.

    That lead to a lot of LOSING, fact.
    Why?
    Crawford isn't a player who can lead a team, instead he forces the team to watch himself play like a clown.
    A lot of isolation, missed shots, bad decisions with the ball and a lot of indecisive overall. He's a TERRIBLE first option and was the WORST first option in the NBA last season. Find me someone worse, thank you.

    Crawford wouldn't even be an efficient 3rd option on a WINNING TEAM.
    He belongs on the bench similar to Eddie House.

    You guys act like bitches about "Knicks counting on Crawford"
    Thats 100% bull****.
    Isiah gave this team to Crawford, does that excuse Crawford for playing like a dumbass all the time?
    No.

    Toons,


    Crawford isn't a good ball handler because he tries too hard to be fancy and doesn't make the right decisions with the ball. His basketball IQ is as low as it gets for a guy who's been in this league for so long (Whats this, his 6th or 7th year? Dude is already vet and plays like an 8th grader) and gets so many minutes.

    Who said Crawford sucks?
    He's a C level player.
    Thats average.
    Crawford just sucks **** as being the primary player on your team.
    **** ESPN and you're made up **** you have no SOURCE of providing here, just something you heard in your delusional Crawford-manlove mind. If you could provide an article or vid where a sports journalist said then, then do it; if not shut the **** up about it.
    So yeh, **** ESPN here's a fact.
    When Crawford is the primary option of your team.
    Your team is bound for the lottery.
    Your team is bound for a 50-60 loss season.
    Don't believe me?
    Look at Crawford's glory in the Bulls.
    Look at the Knicks the last 3-4 seasons under Crawford.
    It seems like we got WORSE when Crawford's role got bigger, check out the records.


    Crawford caused a lot of problems on the court, he played like the biggest dumbass on the Knicks and put us in a losing situation every game. But once or twice a season he would hit a game winning shot, while missing 15-20 of those, but still being proclaimed as "clutch" by the Crawfordsexuals. Funny right?

    You acting like a bitch right now, no snitching? **** that Cam'ron ****.
    If you don't like Isiah, how the hell can you like Crawford? Isiah is Crawford's Don. Crawford wore his number in dedication to Isiah and Isiah made Crawford untradable when he should of been traded two seasons ago.
    Crawford didn't say **** because Isiah had his back. So obviously a Crawfordsexual wouldn't beef with Isiah and Isiahsexuals so much.

    Marbury was tired of the losing and the manlove between Crawford/Isiah. He came to NYC to rep his hometown, and these midwest faggots weren't repping the Garden right. Marbury had EVERY RIGHT to call out Isiah's punkass for soiling the Garden with his draft blunders, free agent failures and complete debacles on trading with other teams making them better.

    How DARE you even take defense of a bitch like Isiah just for the sake of your homeboy Crawford. You pick this team first, and Isiah and Crawford hurted this team too much for them to be defended. A Knick fan defending Crawford is like Bush coming to the defense of the Taliban.

    Son, I got like 20 other paragraphs I could DESTROY Crawford with, I've been bashing Crawford for 3+ years already and got a ****load of information and facts that would already make this thread burn more than its already burn.

    Don't challenge me, **** Team Starbury...thats just a sarcastic thing; sensitive Isiahsexuals like you need to fall back and stop taking jokes so serious.

    Crawford has to go.
    LosingEST player in the NBA
    Heres a fact from not too long ago.

    Miami, Minnesota, Memphis, Seattle and New York are on pace to finish below the Crawford Line (.307) this season -- the most teams to finish with fewer than 26 wins since 2000-01. The Crawford Line is named in honor of New York Knicks guard Jamal Crawford, who has a career winning percentage of .307, worst among active players with at least 400 games played.



    i feel bad that you had to right all this...alotta knicks fans are blind to the fact that crawford is only an average player. They see his 20 and 5 numbers which appear to be good but if you watch him enough and you take a look at his shooting percentages...you know the deal. I knew a knicks fan from my college who was all over crawfords nuts. It made me sick. Hes the most overrated player on this team...EVER with david lee in 2nd place. Some of the white fans stay on Lee's c0ck like a jimmy hat.

    Great post metro...im gonna add this to the Crawford sucks thread....even though i dont think crawford sucks. I felt like it was necessary to use that thread title to get the point across.

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    We just declared jihad on Crawford and his clan.
    Time to load up the ammo.

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    Originally Posted by MSGKnickz33
    i feel bad that you had to right all this...alotta knicks fans are blind to the fact that crawford is only an average player. They see his 20 and 5 numbers which appear to be good but if you watch him enough and you take a look at his shooting percentages...you know the deal. I knew a knicks fan from my college who was all over crawfords nuts. It made me sick. Hes the most overrated player on this team...EVER with david lee in 2nd place. Some of the white fans stay on Lee's c0ck like a jimmy hat.

    Great post metro...im gonna add this to the Crawford sucks thread....even though i dont think crawford sucks. I felt like it was necessary to use that thread title to get the point across.
    Here we go again we love Lee because he is White,Maybe you cant understand respecting a player who works hard maybe thats not a criteria for you,Dont you know us White Fans have a secret society and only want white guys on the team,Honestly Im about done with this site almost everybody on here turns everything into a White and Black issue its a ****ing Joke.You know what Im gonna stop Respecting what Lee does Im gonna start Respecting the other players on the team like Marbury I respect the fact that he cant fit in anywhere and is a complete disruption or how about Curry I Respect how he is the laziest Softest player in the league and that he is gonna eat his way out of the NBA,Or maybe Q Rich who I see in my friends Strip Club almost as much as the Dancers maybe Nate who rather dunk than win and has no problem sitting on the bench down 40 and laughing and joking,or how about Zach he is the perfect role model great teamate never in trouble,Or should I back Crawford who has never once played team basketball since the day he has been here Jerome James now theres someone to get behind,You know even better I should have really Supported Isiah now thats a guy with Class his team is the laughing stock of the league and he is spending all his time trying to bang ****ed up looking interns.I hate to break this to you but most people in the white society Respect hard work its not that we ride anyones **** we dont have to at least I dont have to but obviously unlike you we Respect players that earn there contract and work hard,And just so you dont get it twisted I respect Balkman to they are the only to guys on the team that play hard so dont Hate because this team is full of clowns and there are only two players that are respectable it just so happens that one of them are white.You know I usually like your Posts but that one was a joke.

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    Originally Posted by jimenezz7
    Here we go again we love Lee because he is White,Maybe you cant understand respecting a player who works hard maybe thats not a criteria for you,Dont you know us White Fans have a secret society and only want white guys on the team,Honestly Im about done with this site almost everybody on here turns everything into a White and Black issue its a ****ing Joke.You know what Im gonna stop Respecting what Lee does Im gonna start Respecting the other players on the team like Marbury I respect the fact that he cant fit in anywhere and is a complete disruption or how about Curry I Respect how he is the laziest Softest player in the league and that he is gonna eat his way out of the NBA,Or maybe Q Rich who I see in my friends Strip Club almost as much as the Dancers maybe Nate who rather dunk than win and has no problem sitting on the bench down 40 and laughing and joking,or how about Zach he is .
    Honestly, you should calm down. MSG wasn't trying to be a racist. It's a known fact that racism still exists in this country. Segregation only ended in the United States about 45 years ago. You may not like David Lee, because he's white, but there are people that do. David Lee isn't even as good of a basketball player as Stephon Marbury or Zach Randolph, yet he's currently more popular than both of those players. Just because you probably aren't racist doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Honestly, you should calm down. MSG wasn't trying to be a racist. It's a known fact that racism still exists in this country. Segregation only ended in the United States about 45 years ago. You may not like David Lee, because he's white, but there are people that do. David Lee isn't even as good of a basketball player as Stephon Marbury or Zach Randolph, yet he's currently more popular than both of those players. Just because you probably aren't racist doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist.
    Im always calm,And I thought this was a Knicks site so why is everybody always talking about white this and black that its boering and a joke there are other places to talk that ****.But you know what your right maybe there are whites out there that like Lee because he is white the same way 90% of the Black guys ride Marburys Dick because he is black,I would bet my life if it was a white guy in Marburys place you and 90% of all his other Black fans would want nothing to do with him.So know I just said the same exact thing as MSG lets see how many people including you have a problem with it,Same thing just turned it around,Lets see if there is a double standard.

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    Originally Posted by jimenezz7
    Im always calm,And I thought this was a Knicks site so why is everybody always talking about white this and black that its boering and a joke there are other places to talk that ****.But you know what your right maybe there are whites out there that like Lee because he is white the same way 90% of the Black guys ride Marburys Dick because he is black,I would bet my life if it was a white guy in Marburys place you and 90% of all his other Black fans would want nothing to do with him.So know I just said the same exact thing as MSG lets see how many people including you have a problem with it,Same thing just turned it around,Lets see if there is a double standard.
    1)If Marbury was white, I would still support him. I'm not a biased supporter of Mabury. The facts are there for everyone to see. Marbury has led this team in scoring and assists for most of the time he's been here, and that's why I don't want him traded, waived, or bought out.

    2)I'm not black, so stop jumping to conclusions. There's black people in my family, since my father is dark skinned, but he's Puerto Rican.

    3) My point is you need to stop overreacting and face reality. Racism still exists. If you can't handle this reality, then that's you're problem. 99% of people agree that racism still exists. You go fall into the 1% that thinks the world is perfect and that there's no problems in the world. There's people that like David Lee because he's white. Most people don't like him because he's white, but there's people that do. If you don't believe me then that's your problem. I don't live in fantasy worlds where I think that everything's is perfect.

    Quote from a Knick fan from another blog:
    "What similarities do David Lee and "Diamond Dave" have in common? Well, they're both white. And(I sincerely believe this to be true) they both rock."

    Proof that this statement was mentioned by an actual Knick fan:
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    Another quote:
    "Like I said yesterday, this season David Lee will be the most recognizable white men in the NBA."

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    Another quote:
    "Lee is a rich man's Scalabrine. The fans love him because he's white and hustles, coaches like him because he understands everyone's role and accepts his own."

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    I rest my case.
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