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    Default Ravi Zacharias..brilliant debator for Christianity

    This is in the Knicks area becuase the site wouldnt let me make this thread in the hangout section so if someone can move it please do.

    Ravi Zacharias is one of the most brilliant debators i have ever seen. He has disproved a Muslim in front of an audience and that Muslim later converted to Christianity in a short time. He has debated Evolutionist and proving them wrong in a one day discusiion with them realizing that they are wrong on all accounts. He is great at finding debates when the person debating Ravi actually winds up proving Ravi right, becuase Ravi once said if someone agrues on a topic long enough they will wind up contradicting themselves. He usually talks in front of audiences that give him random questions so his knowledge of the Koran, Bible, Evolution, etc is tremendous. Watch some of teh videos it's worth it. There many different topics as well so choose whatever you want.

    Speaking at University of Michigan with Q and A from students. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Why the Bible? Speaking at the University of Illinois
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    Tells story about debate with Evolutionist Hans Lindgaard and about the debate and Evolution itself.
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    Is the Koran Accurate? Ravi has terrific knowledge about the Koran and what it really teaches and talks about a debate with the #3 Muslim debator in the world. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    How do you know there is a God? Ravi addresses the "cause" argument and the odds of the Atheist view of Creation.
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    Ravi addresses Evil in this Q and A session at a university. Ravi talks about a debate about Evil, good, and Moral Law. Very interesting.
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    What is Sin?
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    Ravi met with members of the UN and their views and talked about Christianity to them. And story about college presentation.
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    The Law of Non-Contradiction and the Trinity. Huge crowd at Penn State University.
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    Penn State Q and A part 2.
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    Muslim student begins to believe in Christianity due to Ravi's words. Very powerful for anyone who has a Muslim friend. Talks about Original Sin.
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    Purpose of life with Ravi answering questions by Atheist and Muslim students.
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    Is the Bible True?
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    Josh Mcdowell Videos


    Josh Mcdowell, and former Atheist debator against Christianity, became a Christian and talks about the Resurrection and what he use to believe as an Atheist. Good for all you Atheist out there and I know there are many of you on this site.
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    A New Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh Mcdowell part 1
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    The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict part 2
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    threads like this go on realgm.com forums

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    watch the vids and if u dont want to then dont even bother commenting plain and simple

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    I saw some of the videos, and he is a good speaker. He has a lot of knowledge of the Bible and other religious books.

    The reason why I don't believe in God is because I don't think the Bible is sufficient proof for me to believe. The reason why I don't think it's sufficient proof is, because there are tons of gods and holy books that people follow. The odds of all of those books being true are not high, because many of those books claim that they're the true religion and that the other religions are false. In my opinion, deciding a religion to follow is like picking a needle out of a haystack. There's too many religions for me to know which one(s) are true, and that's why I decided not to follow any religion. I respect people's beliefs, though.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I saw some of the videos, and he is a good speaker. He has a lot of knowledge of the Bible and other religious books.

    The reason why I don't believe in God is because I don't think the Bible is sufficient proof for me to believe. The reason why I don't think it's sufficient proof is, because there are tons of gods and holy books that people follow. The odds of all of those books being true are not high, because many of those books claim that they're the true religion and that the other religions are false. In my opinion, deciding a religion to follow is like picking a needle out of a haystack. There's too many religions for me to know which one(s) are true, and that's why I decided not to follow any religion. I respect people's beliefs, though.

    Reasons
    to Trust the Bible
    1.
    Historical Soundness

    It would be hard to trust a book that is found to contain inaccuracies. Imagine reading a modern history book that dated the second world war to the 1800’s or that called the president of the United States a king. Would such inaccuracies not raise questions in your mind about the overall reliability of the book?
    NO ONE has ever successfully challenged the historical accuracy of the Bible. It refers to real people and real events.
    People.
    Bible critics questioned the existence of Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Judea who handed Jesus over to be impaled. (Matthew 27:1-26) Evidence that Pilate was once ruler of Judea is etched on a stone [1] discovered at the Mediterranean seaport city of Caesarea in 1961.
    Before 1993, there was no proof outside the Bible to support the historicity of David, the brave young shepherd who later became king of Israel. That year, however, archaeologists uncovered in northern Israel a basalt stone [2], dated to the ninth century B.C.E., that experts say bears the words "House of David" and "king of Israel."
    Events.
    Until recently, many scholars doubted the accuracy of the Bible’s account of the nation of Edom battling with Israel in the time of David. (2 Samuel 8:13, 14) Edom, they argued, was a simple pastoral society at the time and did not become sufficiently organized or have the might to threaten Israel until much later. However, recent excavations indicate that "Edom was a complex society centuries earlier [than previously thought], as reflected in the Bible," states an article in the journal Biblical Archaeology Review.

    Proper
    titles. There were many rulers on the world stage during the 16 centuries that the Bible was being written. When the Bible refers to a ruler, it always uses the proper title. For example, it correctly refers to Herod Antipas as "district ruler" and Gallio as "proconsul." (Luke 3:1; Acts 18:12) Ezra 5:6 refers to Tattenai, the governor of the Persian province "beyond the River," the Euphrates River. A coin produced in the fourth century B.C.E. contains a similar description, identifying the Persian governor Mazaeus as ruler of the province "Beyond the River."
    Accuracy in seemingly minor details is no small matter. If we can trust the Bible writers in even small details, should that not bolster our confidence in the other things they wrote?

    2.
    Candor and Honesty

    Honesty provides the foundation for trust. A man who has a reputation for honesty may win your trust, but if he lies to you even once, he may lose it.
    THE Bible writers were honest men who wrote with openness of heart. Their candor gives their writing the clear ring of truth.
    Mistakes
    and shortcomings. The Bible writers openly admitted their own failures and weaknesses. Moses told of a mistake he made that cost him dearly. (Numbers 20:7-13) Asaph explained that for a time he found himself envying the prosperous life of the wicked. (Psalm 73:1-14) Jonah told of his disobedience and the bad attitude he initially had when God showed mercy to repentant sinners. (Jonah 1:1-3; 3:10; 4:1-3) Matthew freely related that he had abandoned Jesus on the night of Jesus’ arrest.—Matthew 26:56.
    The writers of the Hebrew Scriptures laid bare the repeated grumbling and rebellion of their own people. (2 Chronicles 36:15, 16) The writers spared no one, not even the rulers of their nation. (Ezekiel 34:1-10) With similar candor, the letters of the apostles reported the serious problems experienced by individual Christians, including responsible ones, as well as by some congregations in the first century C.E.—1 Corinthians 1:10-13; 2 Timothy 2:16-18; 4:10.
    Unflattering
    truth. The Bible writers did not try to gloss over what some might have viewed as embarrassing truth. The first-century Christians frankly acknowledged that they were not admired by the world around them but were looked upon as foolish and ignoble. (1 Corinthians 1:26-29) The writers noted that Jesus’ apostles were seen as "unlettered and ordinary."—Acts 4:13.
    The Gospel writers did not color the facts in order to cast Jesus in a more favorable light. Rather, they reported honestly that he was born under humble circumstances into a working-class family, that he did not study at the prestigious schools of his day, and that the majority of his listeners rejected his message.—Matthew 27:25; Luke 2:4-7; John 7:15.
    Clearly, the Bible gives ample evidence that it is the product of honest writers. Does their honesty win your trust?

    3.
    Internal Harmony

    Imagine asking 40 men from varied backgrounds to write a book, each writing a section. The writers live in a number of lands and do not all know one another. Some do not know what the others have written. Would you expect a book thus produced to be harmonious?
    THE Bible is such a book. Written under even more unusual conditions than those described above, its internal harmony is nothing less than profound.
    Unique
    circumstances. The Bible was written over a span of some 1,600 years, from 1513 B.C.E. to about 98 C.E. Many of the approximately 40 writers thus lived centuries apart. Their occupations were varied. Some were fishermen, others were shepherds or kings, and one was a physician.
    A
    harmonious message. The Bible penmen developed one central theme: the vindication of God’s right to rule mankind and the fulfillment of his purpose by means of his heavenly Kingdom, a world government. That theme is introduced in Genesis, expanded on in the books that follow, and brought to a climax in Revelation.—See "What Is the Bible About?" on page 19.
    Agreement
    on details. The Bible writers agreed on even minute details, but often this harmony was clearly unintentional. Note an example. The Bible writer John tells us that when a large crowd came to hear Jesus, Jesus specifically asked Philip where to buy some loaves to feed the people. (John 6:1-5) In a parallel account, Luke says that this took place near the city of Bethsaida. Earlier in his book, John happened to have said that Philip was from Bethsaida. (Luke 9:10; John 1:44) So Jesus naturally addressed his question to one of the men who had lived nearby. The details agree—but with an obvious lack of intent to make them harmonious.
    Reasonable
    differences. There are some differences between certain accounts, but should we not expect this? Suppose a group of people witnessed a crime. If each one mentioned the same details using the same words, would you not suspect collusion? Reasonably, the testimony of each would vary somewhat according to his particular angle of view. So it was with the Bible writers.
    Consider an example. Did Jesus wear a purple garment on the day of his death, as Mark and John report? (Mark 15:17; John 19:2) Or was it scarlet, as Matthew says? (Matthew 27:28) Really, both can be correct. Purple has components of red in it. Depending on the observer’s angle of view, light reflection and background could have subdued certain hues, giving different casts to the garment.
    The harmony of the Bible writers, including their unintentional consistency, further stamps their writings as trustworthy.

    4.
    Scientific Accuracy

    Science has made great strides in modern times. As a result, old theories have given way to new ones. What was once accepted as fact may now be seen as myth. Science textbooks often need revision.
    THE Bible is not a science textbook. Yet, when it comes to scientific matters, the Bible is noteworthy not only for what it says but also for what it does not say.
    Free
    of unscientific views. Many mistaken beliefs gained wide acceptance in ancient times. Views about the earth ranged from the idea that it was flat to the notion that tangible substances or objects held it aloft. Long before science learned about the spread and prevention of disease, physicians employed some practices that were ineffective at best, lethal at worst. But not once in its more than 1,100 chapters does the Bible endorse any unscientific views or harmful practices.
    Scientifically
    sound statements. Some 3,500 years ago, the Bible stated that the earth is hanging "upon nothing." (Job 26:7) In the eighth century B.C.E., Isaiah clearly referred to "the circle [or, sphere] of the earth." (Isaiah 40:22) A spherical earth held in empty space without any visible or physical means of support—does not that description sound remarkably modern?
    Written about 1500 B.C.E., the Mosaic Law (found in the first five books of the Bible) contained sound laws regarding quarantining of the sick, treatment of dead bodies, and disposal of waste.—Leviticus 13:1-5; Numbers 19:1-13; Deuteronomy 23:13, 14.
    Partly as a result of turning powerful telescopes toward the heavens, scientists have concluded that the universe had a sudden "birth." Not all scientists like the implications of this explanation. One professor noted: "A universe that began seems to demand a first cause; for who could imagine such an effect without a sufficient cause?" Yet, long before telescopes, the very first verse of the Bible plainly stated: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."—Genesis 1:1.
    Even though it is an ancient book and touches on many subjects, the Bible contains no scientific inaccuracies. Does not such a book merit, at the very least, our consideration?

    5.
    Fulfilled Prophecy

    Imagine a weather forecaster who has a long record of being right—every time. If he predicted rain, would you carry an umbrella?
    THE Bible is filled with predictions, or prophecies. Its record, as documented by history, is clear. Bible prophecy is always right.
    Distinguishing
    features. Bible prophecies are often specific and have been fulfilled down to the smallest of details. They usually involve matters of great importance and predict the opposite of what those living at the time of the writing might have been expecting.
    An
    outstanding example. Strategically built astride the Euphrates River, ancient Babylon has been called "the political, religious, and cultural centre of the ancient Orient." About 732 B.C.E., the prophet Isaiah penned an ominous prophecy—Babylon would fall. Isaiah provided specifics: A leader named "Cyrus" would be the conqueror, the protective waters of the Euphrates would "dry up," and the city’s gates would "not be shut." (Isaiah 44:27–45:3) Some 200 years later, on October 5, 539 B.C.E., the prophecy was fulfilled in all its details. Greek historian Herodotus (fifth century B.C.E.) confirmed the manner of Babylon’s fall.
    A
    bold detail. Isaiah made a further startling prediction regarding Babylon: "She will never be inhabited." (Isaiah 13:19, 20) To predict permanent desolation for a sprawling city occupying a strategic location was bold indeed. You would normally expect that such a city would be rebuilt if ruined. Although Babylon lingered on for a while after its conquest, Isaiah’s words eventually came true. Today the site of ancient Babylon "is flat, hot, deserted and dusty," reports Smithsonian magazine.
    It is awesome to contemplate the magnitude of Isaiah’s prophecy. What he foretold would be the equivalent of predicting the exact manner in which a modern city, such as New York or London, would be destroyed 200 years from now and then emphatically stating that it would never again be inhabited. Of course, most remarkable is the fact that Isaiah’s prophecy came true!
    In this series of articles, we have considered some of the evidence that has convinced millions of people that the Bible is trustworthy. They therefore look to it as a reliable guide to direct their steps. Why not learn more about the Bible so that you can decide for yourself whether you too can trust it?

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    I didnt make this thread to have another argument about the Bible i just did it so people can see this guy speak cuz he is one of the best in the world at debating for the Christian faith, something that is hard to do when most of society is of a different faith.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I saw some of the videos, and he is a good speaker. He has a lot of knowledge of the Bible and other religious books.

    The reason why I don't believe in God is because I don't think the Bible is sufficient proof for me to believe. The reason why I don't think it's sufficient proof is, because there are tons of gods and holy books that people follow. The odds of all of those books being true are not high, because many of those books claim that they're the true religion and that the other religions are false. In my opinion, deciding a religion to follow is like picking a needle out of a haystack. There's too many religions for me to know which one(s) are true, and that's why I decided not to follow any religion. I respect people's beliefs, though.
    what videos did u watch?

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    I watched the trinity video. He is basically a philosopher. He used one scripture the one where Jesus said let them be in union with me as I am in union with you, and they be in union with us. But if one was to say well then that means God is way more than a trinity, he'd likely say no. But he used it to try and make his point on how God can be 1 and 3 in a community. Nuts.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    what videos did u watch?
    I watched the first 4 videos. I also saw one where he talks about pornography, so that makes 5.

    Speaking at University of Michigan with Q and A from students.
    Why the Bible? Speaking at the University of Illinois
    Tells story about debate with Evolutionist Hans Lindgaard and about the debate and Evolution itself.
    Is the Koran Accurate? Ravi has terrific knowledge about the Koran and what it really teaches and talks about a debate with the #3 Muslim debator in the world.

    I'll watch the other ones, after I'm done watching basketball. I watch the Liberty, while the Knicks are on the offseason. Unfortunately, they're going to get a month off for the olympics, after Sunday, so I'm not going to be able to watch basketball for a long time.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    I watched the trinity video. He is basically a philosopher. He used one scripture the one where Jesus said let them be in union with me as I am in union with you, and they be in union with us. But if one was to say well then that means God is way more than a trinity, he'd likely say no. But he used it to try and make his point on how God can be 1 and 3 in a community. Nuts.
    I was a Christian up to age 13; I was first a Catholic and then a Jehovah's Witness. I decided not to believe on my own. I really can't be converted, because It was my decision to not believe. Nobody put anything in my head. I just did research and found that the Bible is highly flawed, in my opinion. Other people think the Bible is accurate, and that's their right. I'm not really interested in any debates, because I'm not like most people that don't believe and think that they can make religious people look stupid or not believe. I understand that I have lots of facts to back up my point of view, and people that believe have their facts to back up their point of view. Most arguments with religious and non-religious people result in draws. It's no reason to debate.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I was a Christian up to age 13; I was first a Catholic and then a Jehovah's Witness. I decided not to believe on my own. I really can't be converted, because It was my decision to not believe. Nobody put anything in my head. I just did research and found that the Bible is highly flawed, in my opinion. Other people think the Bible is accurate, and that's their right. I'm not really interested in any debates, because I'm not like most people that don't believe and think that they can make religious people look stupid or not believe. I understand that I have lots of facts to back up my point of view, and people that believe have their facts to back up their point of view. Most arguments with religious and non-religious people result in draws. It's no reason to debate.
    That is respectable. I'm sure you have been paying attention to the world though. Amazing how it can speak of our time so accurately.

    But again, I respect your stance.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I watched the first 4 videos. I also saw one where he talks about pornography, so that makes 5.

    Speaking at University of Michigan with Q and A from students.
    Why the Bible? Speaking at the University of Illinois
    Tells story about debate with Evolutionist Hans Lindgaard and about the debate and Evolution itself.
    Is the Koran Accurate? Ravi has terrific knowledge about the Koran and what it really teaches and talks about a debate with the #3 Muslim debator in the world.

    I'll watch the other ones, after I'm done watching basketball. I watch the Liberty, while the Knicks are on the offseason. Unfortunately, they're going to get a month off for the olympics, after Sunday, so I'm not going to be able to watch basketball for a long time.
    I just realized that video 4 is part of video 2 so my apologies on that.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    I saw some of the videos, and he is a good speaker. He has a lot of knowledge of the Bible and other religious books.

    The reason why I don't believe in God is because I don't think the Bible is sufficient proof for me to believe. The reason why I don't think it's sufficient proof is, because there are tons of gods and holy books that people follow. The odds of all of those books being true are not high, because many of those books claim that they're the true religion and that the other religions are false. In my opinion, deciding a religion to follow is like picking a needle out of a haystack. There's too many religions for me to know which one(s) are true, and that's why I decided not to follow any religion. I respect people's beliefs, though.
    the reason he speaks to people though is to single out the christian faith from every other faith. And he makes people realize that their faith either contradicts themselves or its actually supporting the christian faith. Thats why i admire him over most speakers because he has the ability to spot that out in an argument and ultimatly prove a person wrong right on the spot. But i see why u believe to not follow any religion basically becuase you dont have full knowledge of every belief to see which one makes the most sense to you. I can find more videos on him if your interested.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    I watched the trinity video. He is basically a philosopher. He used one scripture the one where Jesus said let them be in union with me as I am in union with you, and they be in union with us. But if one was to say well then that means God is way more than a trinity, he'd likely say no. But he used it to try and make his point on how God can be 1 and 3 in a community. Nuts.
    He explains that the apostles supported this view.

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